fatherpaul Posted March 16, 2007 as i have said comings and goings are the same it is for me to say that i for once know that i dont know this unknowing is without measure there is thunder in the mountain the bright sun is melting the grey cloud no knowledge can be had of the tao that cannot be spoken i am not, it is in this state everything is just as it is only change occurs yet it remains constant (bad word, not time bound) peace and happy pancakes paul Share this post Link to post Share on other sites