Serious Offer

[Wayfarer64]

The "trouble" with the question of attraction seems to be that our neurology has been structured in a way we don't know about...

One day, I was in the middle of an anxiety attack, trying to stay focused on the sensation of anxiety, instead of going into fearful thoughts, I decided, consciously, to simply relax. At the time, I was looking at a television program where a pretty overweight woman was talking about something. As I relaxed, the sensations became more intense for a moment, and then sort of 'cracked'. All of a sudden I was looking at this woman and thinking "how gorgeous!". This woman, who I never would have looked at before this way, was SEXY!!!! The fear was completely gone, and replaced with .......well, you know.

 

http://www.shaktitechnology.com/sex_ascs.htm

 

I think it is pretty common that fear (in general) can become desire fo sex.... feeling sexy after any tense and exhilerating or fearsome experience- Often after being in danger many and various folks get horney as hell (when they are safe again). That the guy in question was looking at an over-weight woman when this kicked in, justs shows his preferences to be loosely based in the first place. - The explanations are pretty interesting though - of how this shift of "mental energy" travels through the neurol net ... Fear=sexy=stuff happens...

I guess it is possible to seduce someone by saving them from danger, without being James Bond. Maybe the dangers of promiscuity make it all the more sexy?!

[三江源]

Are you suggesting that you are a bit unattractive but sincere, with such an offer? Or are you just trying to point out that attractive women get more responses to sexual come-ons than sincere, but less attractive women do?

 

 

 

Hmmm. I HOPE that I'm not unnattractive, but on the other hand I'm not a 23 year old porn - worthy girl, either...

 

I am not 'trying to point out' anything. It was question.

 

Sunshine, that's quite fascinating, isnt it. I think the nature of many fetishes which seem so outlandish to us, or are set in place in infancy happen in this sort of brain melt down.

[Trunk]

porn - worthy

(never heard that adjective before)

 

.. compared with ..

actually attractive, want-to-spend-time-in-bed-with, and wonderful to be around.

[Pietro]

Who is the really good teacher in Ireland, Pietro? I love Dublin, it's an easy city to live in.

 

This is an interesting thread. Would Michelle have got the offers she did, if she'd said she was a bit unattractive, but sincere?

 

Sorry Cat, I just saw your question right now.

 

Alan. Alan Peatfield is.

 

Pietro

[Wayfarer64]

Cat -I really meant that to be funny-I guess ya had to be there... Didn't someone mention you as being very attractive several weeks ago? Maybe I reverted to more cyber-flirting there...Please realize I meant no offence.

 

But the question does seem to be one of what Joe Campbell called the Anima/us or basic male urge to connect to his object of desire -which is in Freaudian terms an archtypical mother image...Where eros first developed in the first year or two of being nurtured. Infants - both male and female pick up on the resentments or devotions displayed by the mother. Much of our later sources of attraction stem from those early feelings of nurturing.

 

There seems to be a more refined system with women than men. They have to "select" a type to be attracted to more than men do. The male figure is usually gleaned from the male population in a way that is less about physical attributes, as the father was a secondary image introduced from the outside of the original early post-natal period, when mother was the whole world to any infant. So women are usually more complex in their societal discernments then guys who know what they want at a pretty basic level which was formed earlier in life.

 

I read a study once that proposed the idea that very premature babies - that were kept alive for their first weeks in an incubator never develope an emotional context to relate to the world with. They remain undeveloped as people, seldom reaching a normal level of emotional maturity...

 

So it would seem that the first few weeks of life and how we are cared for- ends up forming much of our later developement... Even our druthers concerning sexual partners on up the maturation ladder to who we may grow/fall into a real love with.

[三江源]

Cat -I really meant that to be funny-I guess ya had to be there... Didn't someone mention you as being very attractive several weeks ago? Maybe I reverted to more cyber-flirting there...Please realize I meant no offence.

 

 

No offence at all taken. I REALLY did mean exactly what I said, and it was actually specific to this board, too.. I literally wondered what you have to have going on to be offered sexual experiences with the males here, at the drop of a hat. ( so to speak)

 

But as most of the males here pointed out, they didnt offer their services. Just curious, is all. Dont they say curiosity killed the cat.. so I'll shut up now..

[sunshine]

>>Sunshine, that's quite fascinating, isnt it.<<

 

It sure is beautiful lady [

 

>>I guess it is possible to seduce someone by saving them from danger, without being James Bond. Maybe the dangers of promiscuity make it all the more sexy?<<

 

Actually I only recently read about a study being undertaken that seemingly proved that in order to make someone get initially more interested in you and to fall in love with you one should do something that induces fear (like watching a horror movie)... as it is what is induced in such a situation of fear is similar to the feeling of being in love and this lays a pretty good foundation for all to come...

 

with smiles

 

Harry

[三江源]

>>Sunshine, that's quite fascinating, isnt it.<<

 

It sure is beautiful lady [

 

>>I guess it is possible to seduce someone by saving them from danger, without being James Bond. Maybe the dangers of promiscuity make it all the more sexy?<<

 

Actually I only recently read about a study being undertaken that seemingly proved that in order to make someone get initially more interested in you and to fall in love with you one should do something that induces fear (like watching a horror movie)... as it is what is induced in such a situation of fear is similar to the feeling of being in love and this lays a pretty good foundation for all to come...

 

with smiles

 

Harry

 

Hey Harry, come over here, I need to tell you something.

Come right up close so I can whisper it in your ear.

Closer.

yeh, a bit closer, that's good.

 

BOO!

[sunshine]

Hey Harry, come over here, I need to tell you something.

Come right up close so I can whisper it in your ear.

Closer.

yeh, a bit closer, that's good.

 

BOO!

 

Ahhhhhhhhhh... you just know how to make a guy's energy wiring burn through

[Wayfarer64]

SURFING A PHILOSOPHY SITE I CAME ACROSS THIS ENTRY AND THOUGHT OF THIS THREAD...

 

http://www.iep.utm.edu/s/sexualit.htm...

 

Among the many topics explored by the philosophy of sexuality are procreation, contraception, celibacy, marriage, adultery, casual sex, flirting, prostitution, homosexuality, masturbation, seduction, rape, sexual harassment, sadomasochism, pornography, bestiality, and pedophilia. What do all these things have in common? All are related in various ways to the vast domain of human sexuality. That is, they are related, on the one hand, to the human desires and activities that involve the search for and attainment of sexual pleasure or satisfaction and, on the other hand, to the human desires and activities that involve the creation of new human beings. For it is a natural feature of human beings that certain sorts of behaviors and certain bodily organs are and can be employed either for pleasure or for reproduction, or for both.

 

The philosophy of sexuality explores these topics both conceptually and normatively. Conceptual analysis is carried out in the philosophy of sexuality in order to clarify the fundamental notions of sexual desire and sexual activity. Conceptual analysis is also carried out in attempting to arrive at satisfactory definitions of adultery, prostitution, rape, pornography, and so forth. Conceptual analysis (for example: what are the distinctive features of a desire that make it sexual desire instead of something else? In what ways does seduction differ from nonviolent rape?) is often difficult and seemingly picky, but proves rewarding in unanticipated and surprising ways.

 

Normative philosophy of sexuality inquires about the value of sexual activity and sexual pleasure and of the various forms they take. Thus the philosophy of sexuality is concerned with the perennial questions of sexual morality and constitutes a large branch of applied ethics . Normative philosophy of sexuality investigates what contribution is made to the good or virtuous life by sexuality, and tries to determine what moral obligations we have to refrain from performing certain sexual acts and what moral permissions we have to engage in others.

 

Some philosophers of sexuality carry out conceptual analysis and the study of sexual ethics separately. They believe that it is one thing to define a sexual phenomenon (such as rape or adultery) and quite another thing to evaluate it. Other philosophers of sexuality believe that a robust distinction between defining a sexual phenomenon and arriving at moral evaluations of it cannot be made, that analyses of sexual concepts and moral evaluations of sexual acts influence each other. Whether there actually is a tidy distinction between values and morals, on the one hand, and natural, social, or conceptual facts, on the other hand, is one of those fascinating, endlessly debated issues in philosophy, and is not limited to the philosophy of sexuality.

Edited April 29, 2007 by Wayfarer64

[mantis]

[gendao]

Ha ha, so after a year and 6 pages...I'm guessing no man actually stepped up to the plate on this offer?

Edited November 21, 2008 by vortex

[Bum Grasshopper]

Thank you Mantis for reviving this. It was very entertaining. And also great to hear from Father Paul from the grave.

[Seth Ananda]

I can't believe I missed this thread

 

I would have taken her question at face value for the simple reason that I am a Tantra teacher and I have regular 'requests' like that.

Also because as a practice, I try to take everyone at face value, assuming honesty, and don't really think that its important if there lying. (apart from to their own happiness levels )

 

That wouldn't mean that I would sleep with her. Its quite easy to get most women into a fully orgasmic space where their energy is flowing, with the right guidance and prompts, and that would happen on the massage table not in the bed (or on the washing machine, or floor, or kitchen table...)

 

I am glad smile asked about her qualifications. Thank you brother.

If you think you can just have 'Tantric sex' with a complete stranger your deluding your self. That is just bad neo tantra/osho BS.

Just call it sex, thats ok, and maby one day it will end up Tantric and thats great.

The above statement is probably 99% true. There is probably a 1% or less chance of meeting a truly ready, Tantric adept, and somehow feeling so Comfortable with each other, and at home with each others bodies, and energetically in tune that she was fully ready to be penetrated, (which rarely happens for a woman these days).

But anyway, whats the rush? sex can wait. there is all that other good stuff before...

 

Seth Ananda

[Aetherous]

It seems to me like MichelleD was abused at one point. Just a hunch.

[Bum Grasshopper]

My hunch is that MichelleD is a fellow bum sitting back laughing HIS ass off!

 

My hat's off to HIM!

[hyok]

yeah, alright, so, like, where's the thread that teaches us how to give women the ta-O-face?

Edited November 21, 2008 by hyok

[h.uriahr]

The taobums took a sudden turn towards Craigslist. I'm feeling a little strange right now. Sex ads seem a little cheap to me. I have a horse cock and have pleasured every woman I've ever been in bed with but this seems a little strange.

 

If this is an open forum then I'm going to post about chicken fuckers and the ever illusive egg orgasm omlette. How about eating bull testicles while theyre attached to the bull? How about the pros and cons of the Cleveland Steamer?

 

 

hand smacks forehead

[Anabhogya-Carya]

well said sean... on behalf of all woman everywhere all over the world, including my taoist goddess counterparts, i rest my case. this experimnet was highly valuable for chapter 7 of my forthcoming book, which will address the obvious conculsion that all men regardless of their age, creed, and color including you so called taoist male intellectuals flock to pussy like moths to a flame...

 

 

 

Brilliant!!

 

I faintly remeber the Tao Te Ching saying something about lust.... hmmm.

[Pero]

It seems to me like MichelleD was abused at one point. Just a hunch.

 

It seems to me you should ask Plato...

[Captain Mar-Vell]

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The Taobums suddenly took a move towards Craigslist.

 

lolol

 

So funny, man.

 

I don't know Michelle D.

 

I do know a Michelle L.

 

Yes.

 

Moths to a flame indeed.

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[BaguaKicksAss]

This is, classic! LOL

 

Doing an IP check on the OP turned out quite... interesting . Sometimes people like talking to themselves... Though the IP coming in from a public highschool could be a fellow classmate, both from the same small town. Since this is old and said person only seems to have done the one thread, I won't report it, but I will laugh, and perhaps poke a little fun at the guy who started this thread as a girl, if he starts posting on TTBs again (hasn't in a few years).

[Eric23]

Ah, trips down TTBs lane

[GrandmasterP]

How so unlike the home life of our own dear Queen!

[Captain Mar-Vell]

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/me bows

 

Call me Stainless Steel Rat.

 

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