nine tailed fox Posted July 23, 2013 ever wondered why you can control everything in your dream, when you are lucid dreaming ?  its because you know that its not the truth, its not real, you know that when you will wake up that will be the real reality, this is just illusion  in other words you are anchored in this reality as being true, thats why you can control anything which is not true compare to this reality  this is your anchor  the time you realize you are dreaming, you become lucid, you become aware that its illusion and whoa you can fly, you can create, destroy universes, you are the creator , the destroyer of your dream  if you want such control over this very reality you are living right now, than you have to anchor yourself to the real truth  a truth which is real compare to this reality  you have to realize the truth  when you will realize it, you will see that this reality is also dreamlike compare to that truth  than and at that time you will gain complete control over this reality, you can do whatever you want  i think thats why enlightened saints can do such miraculous things because they are anchored in the real truth  that truth has many names  some call it para brahma, some call it the Tao, some call it GOD  seek it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seeker of Wisdom Posted July 23, 2013 So what is there to be controlled, and who will control it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esteam'd Punk Posted July 23, 2013 So what is there to be controlled, and who will control it? I personally believe that if one masters their conscious, the subconscious will follow. Once the subconscious is 'programmed', all sorts of things can happen. Some physicists even say our subconscious controls US, but I guess that's true if one is not aware that the mind can be tamed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nine tailed fox Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) i forgot to add one thing  never try to seek the truth with the intention of gaining control over anything  quite the irony   thats why enlightened people dont have any interest in controlling anything  because there is nothing to control  its like what do you get by controlling your dream ? nothing really , just some fun  but thats the case when you know its a dream, when you are lucid dreaming  when you dont know that its a dream, you wanna control everything Edited July 23, 2013 by nine tailed fox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esteam'd Punk Posted July 23, 2013 its like what do you get by controlling your dream ? nothing really , just some fun I sometimes ask my subconscious (I gave it an avatar, he's a chrome dragon) questions concerning my beliefs and I work on changing the negative ones. It's like advanced NLP (neurolinguistics programing) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nine tailed fox Posted July 23, 2013 i am not talking about beliefs and all  beliefs are useful, but what i am talking about is real literal control over everything  i mean you cant fly with your belief  at least i have not seen anyone flying because he was affirming all day along that he can fly  btw who is that other guy besides ichigo ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seeker of Wisdom Posted July 23, 2013 I personally believe that if one masters their conscious, the subconscious will follow. Once the subconscious is 'programmed', all sorts of things can happen. Some physicists even say our subconscious controls US, but I guess that's true if one is not aware that the mind can be tamed. You may be right, but still... conceptual. Â If reality is dreamlike, what is there to control? Â If we (as parts of dreamlike reality) are also dreamlike, who is there to do controlling? Â Rhetorical questions. Answer with no reply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esteam'd Punk Posted July 23, 2013 ....Rhetorical questions. Answer with no reply. Â No comment. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esteam'd Punk Posted July 23, 2013 ...btw who is that other guy besides ichigo ? That's Renji Abarai. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seeker of Wisdom Posted July 23, 2013 No comment. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esteam'd Punk Posted July 23, 2013 ...i am not talking about beliefs and all  beliefs are useful, but what i am talking about is real literal control over everything.. Yeah, but sometimes you can't do things if you don't believe you can. What about people who've been in freak accidents and the doctors say that there's no hope? That person's will power has to push itself before things can be controlled. I'm sure I just screwed up what I'm trying to say. English isn't my first language  You control what you believe can be controlled. But I'm only speaking from a quantum view, which is mostly retarded. I can't do anything in my dreams unless I know I can do something, ya know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seeker of Wisdom Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) Belief < knowledge < perception < transcendent wisdom. Edited July 23, 2013 by Seeker of the Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nine tailed fox Posted July 23, 2013 oh its renji, his hairstyle is different thats why i couldnt recognize him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esteam'd Punk Posted July 23, 2013 I can has one of your tails? I need a new calligraphy brush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheshire Cat Posted July 23, 2013 The old way to do things was: first attain and only then, teach. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TzuJanLi Posted July 23, 2013 Greetings.. Â No "anchor", that is fixed and stagnant.. let go of all beliefs and knowings, liberate yourself.. when you can see clearly, there is no conflict and everything happens naturally.. Â Be well.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esteam'd Punk Posted July 23, 2013 The old way to do things was: first attain and only then, teach. xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nine tailed fox Posted July 24, 2013 The old way to do things was: if you get an insight, share it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
becomethepath Posted July 24, 2013 then escapism such as reading, watching movies, alcohol, gambling would be stepping away from the truth correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites