The vagus nerve is not the sushumna/central channel

[voidisyinyang]

Drew, that link is somewhat bizarre.. Malcolm is saying that the central channel is the arterial system..

 

Why don't you ask Jim Nance if the right vagus nerve is the sushumna? Now that would be interesting, wouldn't it?

 

 

That would be silly - I never said the vagus nerve was the central channel! haha.

 

The central channel is nondual.

 

Jim Nance says that deep in the heart is the fundamental level of reality - he calls it the "fabric of life."

 

He says that what we think of as three dimensional reality is actually just one dimensional and it exists within the larger fabric of life.

 

So..... yeah when he said the key is to open the heart then I got this blast of deep heart chi bliss from him - because he is connecting to me through the fundamental level of reality and then coming into me through that.

 

The vagus nerve is just yin chi energy - it's just a beginning level of activation of the central channel.

[Creation]

Drew, that link is somewhat bizarre.. Malcolm is saying that the central channel is the arterial system..

I just want to point out that Malcolm's statements are from the perspective of Tibetan medicine. As snowmonki and others have pointed out many times on this forum, the view of the body/energy body in TCM doesn't always agree with the view of the body/energy body in the highest echelons of Taoist alchemy. The relation of Tibetan medicine and Dzogchen is surely analogous.

Edited August 5, 2013 by Creation

[mike 134]

2) The right vagus nerve ends in the bowels and is not connected to the tail bone. The central channel starts at the perineum and goes straight up, just in front of the spine.

 

It is thought that the most distal branches of the vagus nerve innervate the colon. However, there is evidence that there may exist branches lower than this in the pelvic area. See this article http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15451368 where it was discovered that women with complete spinal cord injury can still orgasm with stimulation of the vagina and cervix, and that these orgasms are mediated by the vagus nerve.

 

 

 

Abstract

Women diagnosed with complete spinal cord injury (SCI) at T10 or above report vaginal-cervical perceptual awareness. To test whether the Vagus nerves, which bypass the spinal cord, provide the afferent pathway for this response, we hypothesized that the Nucleus Tractus Solitarii (NTS) region of the medulla oblongata, to which the Vagus nerves project, is activated by vaginal-cervical self-stimulation (CSS) in such women, as visualized by functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI). Regional blood oxygen level-dependent (BOLD) signal intensity was imaged during CSS and other motor and sensory procedures, using statistical parametric mapping (SPM) analysis with head motion artifact correction. Physiatric examination and MRI established the location and extent of spinal cord injury. In order to demarcate the NTS, a gustatory stimulus and hand movement were used to activate the superior region of the NTS and the Nucleus Cuneatus adjacent to the inferior region of the NTS, respectively. Each of four women with interruption, or "complete" injury, of the spinal cord (ASIA criteria), and one woman with significant, but "incomplete" SCI, all at or above T10, showed activation of the inferior region of the NTS during CSS. Each woman showed analgesia, measured at the fingers, during CSS, confirming previous findings. Three women experienced orgasm during the CSS. The brain regions that showed activation during the orgasms included hypothalamic paraventricular nucleus, medial amygdala, anterior cingulate, frontal, parietal, and insular cortices, and cerebellum. We conclude that the Vagus nerves provide a spinal cord-bypass pathway for vaginal-cervical sensibility in women with complete spinal cord injury above the level of entry into spinal cord of the known genitospinal nerves.

[mike 134]

You said the left vagus nerve goes down the left side of the neck and terminates at the heart.

 

Not correct. It continues and actually joins with the right vagus nerve as the esophageal plexus.

[voidisyinyang]

So I'm watching Donnie Yen's 2011 movie Dragon - he hits a blow to the temple on the left side - the autopsy shows the vagus nerve on the left side going to the heart and says that is what caused the death....

[松永道]

I think it's good to look for physical counterparts to energetic phenomenon but that it's a mistake to assume that they correlate one to one.

 

Energy, prana, Qi is a constellation phenomenon (http://www.medicalgongfu.net/2013/08/what-is-qi/). It's not one nerve, neural transmitter or special band of the EM spectrum. That's just not how the human body perceives things. The body subconscious is like a chef that combines these ingredients and serves them up to our awareness. Phenomenon always has a physical counterpart - but usually not just one physical counter part.

 

That doesn't mean we shouldn't look for connections. It just means that we'll never be able to say that the central channel is the vagus nerve or that the kundalini is the spinal chord. That's like comparing a topographical map to a weather map. They're definately related but they're just not the same thing.