Men and Dinosaurs

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

You seem to be on the side of the OP which does not contain evidence but stories. Believers of the young earth, Noah's ark and dinosaurs cohabiting with humans, refuse to accept carbon dating and other scientific methodologies for determining age of fossils etc. The entire argument stems around Biblical myth and other emotional arguments. To date, not one shred of evidence has been presented by these true believers, except for a footprint in Texas. Exactly what does that prove? Nothing.

 

im not in favor of EITHER side. im in favor of: arguing about it is proof that you are an idiot.

 

[Marblehead]

 

 

[ralis]

 

im not in favor of EITHER side. im in favor of: arguing about it is proof that you are an idiot.

 

 

Being uncivil and calling me names weakens your credibility.

[ralis]

sometimes a footprint in the mud or snow can expand to larger scale than it really is/was.

maybe it was garganticus pithicus or whatever he was called?

imo the jury is still out on bigfoot.

ralis, should the collar be electric shock ?

i always wanted a bird for a pet , so i would go with a pterodactyl

use it like a falcon for hunting

 

Electric shock is considered inhumane and my neighbors might turn me into the ASPCA.

[eye_of_the_storm]

Exhibit 2:

Ancient Dinosaur Depictions

http://www.genesispark.com/exhibits/evidence/historical/ancient/dinosaur/

[eye_of_the_storm]

Immortal For Life has posted such erroneous beliefs that dinosaurs and humans played and coexisted together. No evidence of this whatsoever! I suppose you believe in a biblical 6000 year old earth? Furthermore, there are no human fossils in the same strata as dinosaur fossils.

 

The owner of that blog offers no evidence except personal opinion and does not identify himself.

 

More BS from fundamentalists engaging in anthropocentric points of view.

 

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/05/creationist-radio-ad-says-dinosaurs-were-on-noahs-ark/

 

 

Ralis, relax.

 

 

 

[ralis]

 

 

Ralis, relax.

 

 

 

 

Why should I when you are posting fundamentalist anti-science rants that mislead people.

Edited August 7, 2013 by ralis

[eye_of_the_storm]

hahah... kids these days, loco

Stop projecting.

[ralis]

hahah... kids these days, loco

 

Stop projecting.

 

Do you even know what a projection is?

 

The fundamentalist site that you posted is not science but mythology full of anthropocentric belief systems.

[skydog]

Yes, I find history a fascinating topic, and it is very difficult to believe everything/anything one reads in books as true knowledge.

 

The existence of pyramids in Bosnia/China/Underwater in Japan, pretty much blows most historical stuff in the water.

 

For example Lets take the David Icke Book (forgot the name)

 

If one reads through it.

 

Lets assume, 90% of it is total nonsense.

 

Which I dont think it is.

 

There is definately a lot of stuff in there, that just destroys the credbility of much stuff that is taught in school

 

Such is the information about the moon. If you don't believe this, one should research themself.

 

Being unbiased, means not taking either view too seriously.

 

Numbers and "science" can often be used to fool people, for example many prescription drugs have been banned and made illegal in many countries, yet it is a mystery how these drugs were even able to be shown in public. It is very likely that wealthy multinational companies payed the scientists to manipulate the data to make it seem credible.

 

Also I have watched many documentaries where archaeologists who have found things that shouldnt exist eg human remains in soil that is millions of years old, lose their job and all credibility because it offended the way of thinking, does that sound biased or unbiased to you.

[ralis]

Also I have watched many documentaries where archaeologists who have found things that shouldnt exist eg human remains in soil that is millions of years old, lose their job and all credibility because it offended the way of thinking, does that sound biased or unbiased to you.

 

Any links to validate your argument?

[skydog]

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7xLERSRpYQ

 

Yes, there is some rubbish and entertainment stuff here, but yeh.

[Protector]

Did dinosaurs exist in our time or bad artists?

[Colonel Goji]

< From the tapestry below we learn dinosaurs were around through 1580 A.D. at least >

 

"A tapestry showing dinosaurs from the Church of St. Louis of the French in Rome - circa 1580"

 

Makes you wonder if the Jurassic Park movies used real dinosaurs instead of special effects to save money.

 

Those aren't dinosaurs, they're dragons. Dragons were just one of the 'mythical' creatures who use to come visit this world, but eventually disappeared or stopped coming as humanity grew more selfish, wicked, and deviant. At least I read something along those lines in some literature once.

Edited August 7, 2013 by Colonel Goji

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

Being uncivil and calling me names weakens your credibility.

 

Im not calling anyone names, unless you admit you're arguing over speculation.

 

Then yeah, im calling you an idiot: someone who lacks the fortitude of mind enough to know when to quit.

 

 

I'd be an idiot to continue stating this observation, so let's make a deal:

 

 

I'll stop being an idiot and explicitely pointing out idiotic behavior if you stop engaging in argument over something that neither you nor your 'opponent' even CAN have any proof one way or the other!

 

Is that fair, or am I an idiot to think its a rational middle ground?

 

[eye_of_the_storm]

Do you even know what a projection is?

 

The fundamentalist site that you posted is not science but mythology full of anthropocentric belief systems.

 

Go play somewhere else if you don't like it

 

Simply interested in other ideas.

 

If you can't handle that... your problem.

 

 

Edited August 7, 2013 by White Wolf Running On Air

[eye_of_the_storm]

Edited August 7, 2013 by White Wolf Running On Air

[thelerner]

Why should I when you are posting fundamentalist anti-science rants that mislead people.

Hmnn, Okay lets do a poll. 3 categories.

1. Nasty close minded people who ignore all the evidence and refuse to believe there were dinosaurs living along w/ people.

2. People who ignore the evidence but at least have the common decency to admit they don't know for sure.

3. Good red blooded Americans, who aren't afraid to go against 100 years of scientific theory and evidence and loudly proclaim, 'Sure, its on the internet ain't it. So's a picture.'

 

 

 

Frankly I'm a 1.

Edited August 7, 2013 by thelerner

[eye_of_the_storm]

You seem to be on the side of the OP which does not contain evidence but stories. Believers of the young earth, Noah's ark and dinosaurs cohabiting with humans, refuse to accept carbon dating and other scientific methodologies for determining age of fossils etc. The entire argument stems around Biblical myth and other emotional arguments. To date, not one shred of evidence has been presented by these true believers, except for a footprint in Texas. Exactly what does that prove? Nothing.

 

 

 

 

Wtf are you talking about?

 

I personally believe humans have been around for millions of years (or more) and potentially came from other planets/ had the ability to travel space / solar systems galaxies etc

 

Stargates, Star wars... and so on

 

 

 

How is that for science eh? lol

 

Who wants to traverse the universe with me?

 

Any other time travelers here?

 

Edited August 7, 2013 by White Wolf Running On Air

[thelerner]

 

I personally believe humans have been around for millions of years (or more) and potentially came from other planets/ had the ability to travel space / solar systems galaxies etc

Stargates, Star wars... and so on How is that for science eh? lol

 

Who wants to traverse the universe with me?

 

It'd be more impressive coming from an engineer or actual scientist. Just watching TV and movies doesn't cut it. Stargate & Star Wars are a piss poor substitutes for actual scientific inquiry and study. They may spark an interest, but anyone can watch a movie and dream of being a Jedi or finding a portal in the desert.

 

Science is hard. It takes study, from real books by experts in there field. Its not watching a movie or surfing the net for the juicy distraction du jour.

 

If you want to traverse the universe then turn on Dr. Who. If you want science go to a university, talk to a professor, enroll or audit a class. You can even take courses on the internet. No aliens to fight, but you can take baby steps into understanding why your computer works, the sun shines, and myriad life forms living inside you.

[eye_of_the_storm]

[ralis]

This article pretty much sums up this thread. Different subject but same mindset.

 

Conservative media’s attacks on climate science effectively erode viewers’ belief in scientists.

 

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/06/conservative-medias-attacks-on-climate-science-effectively-erode-viewers-belief-in-scientists/

[Basher]

Did the belief in "Dragons" come about, because someone in ancient times found some Dinosaur remains ?

[eye_of_the_storm]

truth does not fear investigation

if the science is good it will stand the test...

if not...



mainstream $cience fails again...

Do you work for the Rockerfella foundation Ralis? or Lerner?

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

oh "men and dinosaurs"
I thought that said "men are dangerous" was wondering why this thread had a double!