Men and Dinosaurs

[Basher]

Scientists ?

[Marblehead]

Hehehe. Okay guys. As best as I can remember:

 

Exactly what it had last eaten I do not recall, however,

 

they found a lot of mud in its belly and based on where it had been found and the geology of the area it was suggested that a family had been crossing a river bed when suddenly a flash flood came down from the hills and swept the baby away and it drowned in the muddy water.

[zerostao]

that saddens me but wtf was its final meal!

[Marblehead]

that saddens me but wtf was its final meal!

Yeah, I was saddened too but life is that way some times.

 

So you want me to watch the show again just so I can tell you what else was in its belly?

[zerostao]

Yeah, I was saddened too but life is that way some times.

 

So you want me to watch the show again just so I can tell you what else was in its belly?

would you please? i am distraught over this entire thread now

i am not sure if i can even go forward with my # 71.6

[Marblehead]

would you please? i am distraught over this entire thread now

i am not sure if i can even go forward with my # 71.6

Hehehe. Stop being such a freakin' cry-baby.

[zerostao]

Hehehe. Stop being such a freakin' cry-baby.

i am tryin to be a freakin dinosaur artist, geesh

scientist can be tempermental all they want and nobody critiques them,

but even if an artist cuts off an ear or sth they get labeled

it isnt fair

[Marblehead]

i am tryin to be a freakin dinosaur artist, geesh

scientist can be tempermental all they want and nobody critiques them,

but even if an artist cuts off an ear or sth they get labeled

it isnt fair

Hehehe. I was almost expecting justification. You did good.

[Stosh]

i am tryin to be a freakin dinosaur artist, geeshscientist can be tempermental all they want and nobody critiques them,but even if an artist cuts off an ear or sth they get labeledit isnt fair

So who are the temper mental Scientists ?

The ones that decided mastadons ate mud?

[Colonel Goji]

Ancient Chinese referred to unearthed dinosaur bones as dragon bones and documented them as such. For example, Chang Qu in 300 BC documents the discovery of "dragon bones" in Sichuan. The modern Chinese word for dinosaur is konglong (恐龍), and villagers in central China have long unearthed fossilized "dragon bones" for use in traditional medicines, a practice that continues today.

 

The binomial name for a variety of dinosaur discovered in China, Mei long, in Chinese (寐 mèi and 龙 lóng) means "sleeping dragon." Fossilized remains of Mei long have been found in China in a sleeping and coiled form, with the dinosaur nestling its snout beneath one of its forelimbs while encircling its tail around its entire body.

 

Sinologist Henri Doré lists these characteristics of an authentic dragon: "The horns of a deer. The head of a crocodile. A demon's eyes. The neck of a snake. A tortoise's viscera. A hawk's claws. The palms of a tiger. A cow's ears. And it hears through its horns, its ears being deprived of all power of hearing.

 

I find it interesting that a Dragon is the only animal on the Chinese Zodiac that is 'mythological'. Maybe they should have called it year of the Dinosaur instead?

Edited August 8, 2013 by Colonel Goji

[Colonel Goji]

I personally believe humans have been around for millions of years (or more) and potentially came from other planets/ had the ability to travel space / solar systems galaxies etc

 

Stargates, Star wars... and so on

 

 

 

How is that for science eh? lol

 

Who wants to traverse the universe with me?

 

Any other time travelers here?

 

 

Sure I'll travel. I prefer to use DMT for the time machine though. Unless you have something better? Anyone else want to come along? I have to warn you of a couple things first, make sure you are prepared for the voyage.

 

Dimensional Elevator

Similar to a terrestrial elevator, this is a small space that travelers can find themselves in, or purposefully use, which seems to rise at great speed through a multitude of higher & extra dimensional spaces. At various intervals, it opens up on a new vista or room where one can choose to get out and interact, or stay in the elevator and continue to ascend. The feeling of rising is often accompanied by a rising Carrier Wave.

 

Carrier wave

Just after a launch, travelers often hear a ringing tone or vibration somewhat resembling a carrier wave. As the ringing sensation continues one can even feel that this vibration is 'resonating in every cell of the body'. The frequency of the tone often seems to cause (or be caused by) the dissolution of the current environment, and may be a perceptual artifact of the actual raising of one's vibratory rate to levels where access to Hyperspace is possible. Sounds like a high pitched tinntinitis tone right out of the range of consensual reality hearing (maybe what a dog hears with a dog whistle) - sometimes steady state, sometimes warbling up and down, like a siren.

 

Hyperspace Jesters: Could also be called Harlequins or fools. They truly resemble medieval jesters and harlequins... however, they are not silly or foolish in any way. They tend to be hyper-intelligent and might be the male versions of the Flirty Fairies. They have a fundamentally different nature that they are trying to show off, though. They like to show you things... objects. Often flashing Hyperspace tarot cards at you which, on their own, can impart reams of information to you when you look at them. They are similar enough to the "Machine Elves" that they could be the same species, only these guys tend to not be operating the machines... perhaps they are on break or vacation (essential nature - CRAFT).

 

 

Geniuses or Genii: These guys tend to be sitting in fanciful chairs and observe you with a much more dour and reproachful manner than either of the above types. They tend to lean back with their head tilted somewhat disdainfully to the side, stroking their chin or fingering their noses slowly. If they decide they have energy for you, they will get out of their seats, and move lightning quick. Immediately appearing behind you, and wherever you turn your head or your attention, they will already be there. They seem to enjoy demonstrating how pathetic you are, and often answer your questions before you even ask them. Very humbling. Though they don't have horns necessarily, and are usually neon rainbow opalizing on ebony, rather than red... they do have something in common with popular conceptions of devils or "the devil." They are far more genteel than the above two types (essential nature - GUILE & LOGIC).

 

Circus Ringleaders: Not at all aloof like the Genii, these guys are all about showmanship. They are very much like the archetypal circus ringleader... often with coat and tails and a ridiculously cool top hat to boot. They may even have a baton, wand or fancy cane they use to direct your attention to one or another of Hyperspace's awesome vistas or announce a show being put on for your entertainment. They are shamelessly promotional, but like the other natives of Hyperspace... they are also hyper-intelligent, telepathic, and frankly miraculous. If you are treated to a performance with a ringleader to help you take in the 3 ring (10 ring x 10 dimensions more likely) show, sit back and be ready to be amazed. (essential nature - ENTERTAINMENT & SHOWMANSHIP)

 

Morphos: This class of beings tend to have fairly unstable forms and can rise and subside out of the Jim Jam like waves. They are aware, though... and are capable of solidifying into phantastic phorms if they so choose. These forms are often straight out of mythology only far more colorful and multi-dimensional. Here you find dragons, tritons, sphinx, harpies, roc, phoenix, mock turtles, jabberwocky, minotaur, dryads, quetzelcoatl, yeti, octopii etc. There are no limits to what might crest out of the Jim Jam and sail past you... They tend to have vast awareness and consciousnesses that contain peculiar and unique gems of wisdom (essential nature - GUIDANCE & WISDOM).

 

Plant & Object Devas: The Devas are living, often hyper-intelligent, beings that often resemble plants or objects more than they do what we might normally recognize as sentient beings. They can be very helpful and are always interesting to observe as they unfold, wiggle, transform & flower. An interesting note is that if they do unfold entirely for you, they seem to have erogenous zones like pistils and stamen which can experience something akin to orgasm. Due to the telepathy inherent in hyperspatial contacts, the traveler is able to experience some of this cosmic ecstasy as well. (essential nature - MYSTERIES & ECSTASY)

 

 

Extra-Dimensional Beings that don't live in Hyperspace

In addition to Hyperspatial Beings, there are beings that one can perceive by peeking out of Hyperspace and into other tangential realms. Sometimes it is akin to peeking out of mirrors in the Hyperspace "Hallways Of Always" and into other real places with entities who don't live in Hyperspace per se. Other times, it is more like a high speed elevator that stops at various dimensional "floors" where the doors open, and you can pop out and interact with the denezins for a period of time (often very short) before the door closes and you rocket up to even higher levels. The myriad sorts of beings that one encounters this way are too vast to even attempt classification, but some of the ones that seem easiest to encounter are:

Dream Wizards

 

Dream Wizards: These guys tend to be classic Gandalf types with far more trippy and cool robes. They inhabit monasteries, castles, and even Roger Dean-ish cities. They tend to ignore you, but might deign to give you a slight indication that they are aware of you. The most intelligent human being of all time is a rank idiot next to them.

Gods & Goddesses

 

Gods & Goddesses: These beings actually do resemble various cultural archetypal godheads. There are Hindu, Egyptian, Mayan, Celtic, African and plenty of un-recognizable types. They tend to be more sci-fi than you would imagine them from only reading sacred books. They are capable of taking a keen interest in you, and despite being oceanic in comparison to the Genii or the Wizards... they don't usually judge you, but rather have a kind-of infinite compassion... although you can't always count on that. They are of different temperments and personalities, and it is rare to see more than one of them on any given journey.

Elementals

 

Aliens: While all of these beings are technically aliens, these guys strike you immediately as being alien. They are so different from us as to be outside of our myths, or at least their minds feel far more foreign than other sorts of entities you encounter. Often you come to them in their own realms when you pop out on the other side of a Hyperspace journey. Equally often, they might come to you. They are generally not as scary as they look, but more interested in studying how far we humans have come. These guys include the insectoids (like the Praying Mantis), the reptilians (of various sorts), and more amorphous and nebulous intelligences.

 

 

 

 

Hehe sorry couldn't help it. And I was only kidding no I don't want to travel I have too much work and cultivation to do right here on Earth.

Edited August 8, 2013 by Colonel Goji

[eye_of_the_storm]

Coool stuff!!! :D

[Stosh]

Hellooooo ... isnt anyone going to indicate they understand that the absence of evidence is not the absence of data?

[Marblehead]

Naw. For me, if there is no evidence there is no reason to consider it.

[zerostao]

i know right, the ancient greeks could just see atoms as plain as day,

why else could they consider they existed.

[Marblehead]

i know right, the ancient greeks could just see atoms as plain as day,

why else could they consider they existed.

Assumptions, my Dear. If "things" can be bigger and bigger and bigger then it is a sound assumption that "things" can be smaller and smaller and smaller. They could not see atoms. No. But they assumed that things were made up of smaller parts. Pretty sound reasoning, IMO.

[zerostao]

brb

[Marblehead]

i agree. but that statement is quite different than the one you previously made.

Whoever incorrectly claimed that I am consistent? I am as ellusive as the Snow Leopard.

Edited August 8, 2013 by Marblehead

[Apech]

Whoever incorrectly claimed that I am consistent? I am as ellusive as the Snow Leopard.

 

 

I wonder if dinosaurs used to sit around discussing whether the earth would one day be inhabited by mammals without proper fur who walk on their hind legs? I can imagine the snorts of derision.

[Stosh]

Picture stretching a wire , it thins and gets longer , and longer and longer.. If matter is composed of some continuous material

( like an ocean wave on large scale) rather than atomic ,, (clumps of marbles) , it theoretically would thin and stretch forever because there would be no threshold to how thin it could get.

Since there is discreteness to particles , when you pass the theoretical minimum of two connected particles ,the wire always breaks.( there are other such examples like inability to close or open a gap , which again , proven empirically suggest an atomic basis for the universe)

[Apech]

Picture stretching a wire , it thins and gets longer , and longer and longer.. If matter is composed of some continuous material

( like an ocean wave on large scale) rather than atomic ,, (clumps of marbles) , it theoretically would thin and stretch forever because there would be no threshold to how thin it could get.

Since there is discreteness to particles , when you pass the theoretical minimum of two connected particles ,the wire always breaks.( there are other such examples like inability to close or open a gap , which again , proven empirically suggest an atomic basis for the universe)

 

Sorry but wires don't break at the atomic level its the crystalline structure that shears.

[thelerner]

Not necessarily. The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Thing is there are people who've spent 10'000's of hours studying the beasts and they've gone out looking for them (bones anyway). There view should be held somewhat higher then most of ours. For example in one case, doubtlessly a 'Skeptical' review of the question, a Paleontologist said the 'Foot Print' evidence was a very well known site to researchers. After going there for many years, one day the giant 'human' tracks suddenly sprouted toes that hadn't been there before. Unfortunately there are hoaxers out there.

 

If you were making a buck a day wouldn't be interested in selling old clay 'dinosaur' relics to avid researchers? The Egyptian pictures shown, don't look like they're photos from a wall, but it's not unexpected to see giant long necked creatures on a wall. Egypt is in Africa and I expect giraffes were not some undiscovered species, probably common enough not to make a huge deal out of. But a living dinosaur, I'd expect even in ancient times it would be an oddity worthy of quite a bit more wall space. It's a freakin Thunder Lizard after all. Rome hunted a couple of large game to the brink of extinction, they'd have gone gaga at the prospect of something exotic like that in Colosseum.

 

In 'modern' times the last 30 to 40,000 years big animals have been found in glaciers and tar pits. We don't see dinosaurs there, at least not alongside mammoths. It's too bad. We'll likely see someone cloning a mammoth in our life time, but not a Stegosaurus (not only gone, but no close relatives )

 

There were reports and seaches for the last dinosaurs in modern times going to deep Africa, where legends told of there existence in the 80's and 90's. None found. As time goes on fewer and fewer large mammals are.

 

Whatever 'got' the dinosaurs, extinctified damn near everything large. In someways our Adam and Eve were cowering rodents with big potential.. Waiting, patiently evolving over millions and millions of years until the internet would come into existence.

Edited August 8, 2013 by thelerner

[zerostao]

i like this word >> extinctified

a sobering fact is the high probability that over time most species do go extinctified

[Stosh]

Sorry but wires don't break at the atomic level its the crystalline structure that shears.

I know what you mean ,by 'atomic' im referring to the particle nature not necessarily to the atoms, or molecules , as they are understood today.

The planes of the structure are actually inconsistencies between groups of atoms which have different bond strengths

the structure is still composed of the atoms though, and the shear planes are merely an indicator of where the bonds were strained

( calling metals crystalline is a dubious attribution because of the shared electron cloud and opaque amorphous structure )

 

But thats unimportant ..

The ancient greeks didnt have electron microscopes. Im talking to the means by which

they could come to the concept of atoms. They did have metals and they did have the math to come to a conclusion.

Edited August 8, 2013 by Stosh

[thelerner]

i like this word >> extinctified

a sobering fact is the high probability that over time most species do go extinctified

I have a list of needful words I've created that I'm meaning to patentify and monetize so everyone who uses them will owes me 0.2 cents. I'll put yours on a tab though .

 

<added> for example:

In November 1988, Riley submitted an application to trademark the term "three-peat"- In 1993, Riles & Co. earned an estimated $300,000 in licensing and royalty fees. In 1998 the royalty income doubled to nearly $600,000.

 

Hmnn maybe I should charge more then two tenths of a cent. Plus the more things that get extinctified the more money I'd get. And when the Captain Extinctified movie comes out ka ching kaching.

Edited August 8, 2013 by thelerner