zerostao Posted August 7, 2013 ohhhhhh okay!! YAYYYYY ZEROSTAO !!! bows humbly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rene Posted August 7, 2013 lol while you're down there bowing... poke MH in the butt to get him goin on the ZZ stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted August 7, 2013 yow saw that right, mh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted August 7, 2013 yow saw that right, mh? Yeah, I just now saw it. I was outside feeding the fish. Sometimes I just have to ignore Rene. We are friends so she knows how I am. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) That's a strange statement. Would you mind quoting Zhuangzi on this? Thanks Sorry, there was no quote from Zhuang Tze because he only writes parables. To understand what he was saying is straightly going through all the metaphors in his parables to draw to a conclusion by intuition or grokking. PS...... Actually, I had learned most of Zhuang Tze's philosophy from the interpretations of the knowledgeable native scholars. The quote was from their studies. Edited August 8, 2013 by ChiDragon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted August 7, 2013 CD reminds me of that one chuang tzu character that was never afraid to stand alone even if others did not share his view Yes, he had given me a tremendous influence. Find the truth; keep and defend it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
exorcist_1699 Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) Immortality is only some kind of "bait" the Taoist masters toss to the people to lead them into the gateway. Taoist aspiration , in fact , is great ; The saying you repeatedly come across when reading the old Chinese Taoist writings ( contrary to those appear in the Western ones that are full of " enhancing sex power" or "openning the 3rd eye" ... ) is : " 為宇宙幹一大事業" ( " To undertake a great enterprise for the universe ") The basis of such a claim is that there is a micro-cosmos ( taiji) in everyone of us , where the " magic gateway" ( "玄關" ) is the threshold allowing us to cross the boundary inbetween the small one and the big one .... Edited August 8, 2013 by exorcist_1699 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) I don't have any... I find the questions more helpful than the answers. _/\_ yes, the asking, the contemplating, the processing...by the time you get around to the answer, well, its already been resolved now, hasnt it? that's why I dont normally get perturbed by a question being answered with a question. Edited August 8, 2013 by joeblast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted August 8, 2013 yes, the asking, the contemplating, the processing...by the time you get around to the answer, well, its already been resolved now, hasnt it? And another aspect of this is that we are always changing. Today's answer may not be valid tomorrow. Answers are limiting, dividing, they represent stasis and an endpoint. Reality is like the question, unanswered, without cause or reason, always changing and growing, full of potential. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted August 8, 2013 " 為宇宙幹一大事業" ( " To undertake a great enterprise for the universe ") The basis of such a claim is that there is a micro-cosmos ( taiji) in everyone of us , where the " magic gateway" ( "玄關" ) is the threshold allowing us to cross the boundary inbetween the small one and the big one .... Nice post. Marblehead likes to come at this more from the philosophical point of view. This is the foundation and development we undertake in Daoist alchemy. The creation or discovery and investigation of the inner universe and its progressive development and refinement. Ultimately, it's transformation, liberation, and assimilation with reality. Many elements of a tantric method. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rene Posted August 8, 2013 Nice post. Marblehead likes to come at this more from the philosophical point of view. This is the foundation and development we undertake in Daoist alchemy. The creation or discovery and investigation of the inner universe and its progressive development and refinement. Ultimately, it's transformation, liberation, and assimilation with reality. Many elements of a tantric method. Another nice post. (-: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted August 8, 2013 Marblehead likes to come at this more from the philosophical point of view. This is the foundation and development we undertake in Daoist alchemy. But I am becoming more tolerant of Alchemic and Religious Taoists. Hehehe. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted August 9, 2013 But I am becoming more tolerant of Alchemic and Religious Taoists. Hehehe. Tolerance is a good thing, unless of course we're talking about opiates... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted August 9, 2013 unless of course we're talking about opiates... Naw, I wouldn't do that shit. And don't recommend it either. Yes, tolerance is good regarding most things in life. People sometimes makes it hard though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) Yes, tolerance is good regarding most things in life. People sometimes makes it hard though. Yes, that is why tolerance is the highest realm in cultivation....!!! Edited August 9, 2013 by ChiDragon 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted August 9, 2013 People sometimes makes it hard though. I feel you brother.... And when they make it hard, there is no better opportunity for personal growth... Yuck... I really didn't intend the double entendre but it's cute so I'll leave it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted August 9, 2013 And when they make it hard, there is no better opportunity for personal growth... Yuck... I really didn't intend the double entendre but it's cute so I'll leave it... Okay. First, it was funny. Second, it is the truth. All is good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henro Posted August 9, 2013 Yes, that is why tolerance is the highest realm in cultivation....!!! Tolerance or acceptance?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted August 9, 2013 Tolerance or acceptance?? It is more like tolerance than acceptance; tolerance does not has to be approved but acceptance has a commitment of tolerance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted August 9, 2013 Tolerance or acceptance?? I argue that difference all the time. There are some things in life I won't even tolerate let alone accept. But as with most things, the middle path is the best path. (Except for maybe the Yellow Brick Road.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites