ChiDragon Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) When I say breathing I meant "abdominal breathing", do you think it would help you to accomplish whatever your intended end result was......??? Edited August 9, 2013 by ChiDragon 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teknix Posted August 9, 2013 Thanks for reminder, sometimes I might neglect it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted August 9, 2013 I am in the practice of constant attention to my breathing, learning its natural flows, controlled uses, and best combinations thereof...Sometimes walking is better from the abdomen, sometimes you just walk...I try to be observant of the comparisons and analytical of the subtle differences...but nothing is genuinely "known" in words, just understood in feeling.like yawning... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Protector Posted August 9, 2013 Well, I know how much you love breathing so I'm going to say YES 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idiot_stimpy Posted August 9, 2013 I concentrate on the senses, so the breathing is inside the senses. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted August 9, 2013 malikshreds......Please answer the question in your own words if you can. Citing somebody else words may not be all of your saying. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted August 9, 2013 Sorry, may I ask what have you accomplished with that in your own practice......??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaguaKicksAss Posted August 9, 2013 Since I practice Bagua and Neigong, yes most definitely . A few different sorts of breathing as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tung Posted August 9, 2013 Breathing is the best, I cant stop doing it, I think I'm addicted. First i breath in and it feels so good I don't want to stop. Then I breathe out and its even better, and it goes on like that. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted August 9, 2013 If breathing doesnt play a significant role....then you've got to go back to 101 class 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted August 9, 2013 It's something I work on, then forget. Work on then forget. Sometimes even on purpose. For example long breath cycles, I'll practice extending them for a month, then let it go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted August 9, 2013 Since I practice Bagua and Neigong, yes most definitely . A few different sorts of breathing as well. How did it help you in Neigong; like what kind of improvement to your physical being....??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted August 9, 2013 It's something I work on, then forget. Work on then forget. Sometimes even on purpose. For example long breath cycles, I'll practice extending them for a month, then let it go. Why did you let it go, instead of continuing for life.....??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ish Posted August 9, 2013 No, it regulates itself as i "regulate" the mind. A small nudge or intention here and there is all that is needed to change it how i like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted August 9, 2013 The most significant gains I made were when I kept at it, kept at it, kept at it, singular focus, execute perfect breath over and over again, or at least work towards such, analyze and refine with every single breath - keep at it until the yang of the session begins to wane, then let it all go and settle into emptiness. That got me to a minute and fifteen a few times (as in many months long chunks of practice time) before progress was mangled by other factors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwai Posted August 9, 2013 after the initial learning phase, it is not necessary to "focus" on breathing. It becomes natural...breathing in from the abdomen...breathing out...reverse breathing, regular breathing, etc. The energy is what matters...breathing is secondary. If considering taiji chuan, we should be able to peng, lu, ji, an etc without thinking about breathing in or out. We should be able to do these during in-breath, out-breath or no-breath 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted August 9, 2013 the nature of the focus does shift and change as progress is made Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ish Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) The most significant gains I made were when I kept at it, kept at it, kept at it, singular focus, execute perfect breath over and over again, or at least work towards such, analyze and refine with every single breath - keep at it until the yang of the session begins to wane, then let it all go and settle into emptiness. That got me to a minute and fifteen a few times (as in many months long chunks of practice time) before progress was mangled by other factors. Sounds a little bit neurotic for my taste but as you swear by it, must be effective for some. Edited August 9, 2013 by Ish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted August 9, 2013 roteness is not for everyone, that's for sure. but if you want robust... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wisetaobuddy Posted August 10, 2013 If breathing doesnt play a significant role....then you've got to go back to 101 class sorry for me breathing doesnt play any significant role at all because I am using the nature energy to practice my meditation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted August 11, 2013 sorry for me breathing doesnt play any significant role at all because I am using the nature energy to practice my meditation. May I ask what are you try to accomplish in your mediation....??? How did you use the nature energy....??? How can you tell that this energy was helping you to accomplish whatever you are trying to do.....??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_D Posted August 11, 2013 Before focusing in the breathing you need to focus in the posture. Is a simple progression: Posture Breath Energy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted August 11, 2013 When I say breathing I meant "abdominal breathing", do you think it would help you to accomplish whatever your intended end result was......??? What do you mean by asking if abdominal breathing helps to accomplish an intended result? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted August 11, 2013 What do you mean by asking if abdominal breathing helps to accomplish an intended result? What I am try to ask is whatever one practices, one can do it with or without abdominal breathing to see does it make any difference in the end result. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted August 11, 2013 What I am try to ask is whatever one practices, one can do it with or without abdominal breathing to see does it make any difference in the end result. How could one possibly practice without abdominal breathing? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites