The "Dream"

[Rebel Emperor]

Man, the fruit makes me want to go to nature maybe even back to the dawn of time but in the modern world I will stay dodging the materialism, trash and grime

Walking around in the tropical wilderness picking ripe fruits to eat everyday what a romanticnotion, but how ideal is it, no way, can’t be done some say

Now I see the world as an illusion just like in The Matrix the movie everything I thought was natural is fake even down to a simply smoothie

My mind is changing I want to get away from my modern culture I don’t want to study business so I can learn to swindle people like a vulture

I want to walk in the sand enjoying the sun and perfect health not stressing out about how broke I am and how I am not building mega wealth

So what do I do, do I relocate and go somewhere hot or do I stay here in this concrete jungle, this beautifully diverse melting potI just don’t know, I’m broke and as it is I’m just getting by would I survive in the tropics, hey, I will never know if I don’t try

It sure is a tempting, romantic, idealistic thought though will it ever happen, hey, you know it just might, I guess I’ll never know I’ll just continue to dream of tropical trees, fruits and the sun in the sky and sort out later all the when’s, how’s, maybe’s, what for’s and why.

 

[Flolfolil]

aren't vultures scavengers? i don't think they swindle anybody

[voidisyinyang]

 

yeah I can't wait to get out of the city whenever I go there - driving through the urban jungle.

 

Get back to the garden, humanure composting, deer, shrooms, wild turkeys, wood for heating the house, tropical songbirds, butterflies, fireflies, wild berries,

 

primal screams are the best.

 

You gotta have a primal scream every day -- in the wild -- poison ivy, stinging nettles, stepping on sticks, walking bare foot, etc.

 

Bees, or garden pests - grasshoppers, various other squishy bugs....

[SonOfTheGods]

So what do I do, do I relocate and go somewhere

you already know!

[Sloppy Zhang]

I don’t want to study business so I can learn to swindle people like a vulture...

 

I want to walk in the sand enjoying the sun and perfect health not stressing out about how broke I am ...

 

I’m broke and as it is I’m just getting by would I survive in the tropics, hey, I will never know if I don’t try

 

It sure is a tempting, romantic, idealistic thought though will it ever happen, hey, you know it just might, I guess I’ll never know I’ll just continue to dream of tropical trees, fruits and the sun in the sky and sort out later all the when’s, how’s, maybe’s, what for’s and why.

 

Well let's get un-romantic and realistic, otherwise you're just going to unplug yourself from one Matrix to plug yourself in to another one.

 

What are you studying now? Are you in school in a business program? Pre-business program? High school about to go into college? In the workforce working a shitty job? What are you doing NOW?

 

Have you ever been to the tropics/island/beach and lived off of the fruit? Or are you just imagining how nice it would be? What happens if you get sick? Will you have access to treatment (as in, will you be in a region/country that has good medical practitioners) and will you be able to pay for it (money or insurance?)?

 

Let's say you meet someone and have kids and start raising a family. How would you provide for them and educate them? Your hippy dippy dream might be good for you, but what about for other people? Please consider that your actions can affect others and force them into scenarios that might limit their ability to make choices down the line in their own life.

 

 

My suggestion? Money is not evil. Money is a tool. You can either make money work for you can work for the money. What is it going to be?

 

You can either run the business, or have the business run you.

 

The law can either be on your side, or you can be on the other side of the law.

 

The secret comes to education. If you are uneducated about money, business, government, the law, technology, etc, those things will control your life and you will not be able to choose your own destiny.

 

Educate yourself, master these areas (or at least gain some proficiency) and make them work for you. Someone made another thread about business/sales and about how it encourages you to lower your morals. YOU determine how far you are willing to go in your own business. Don't want to be a vulture? Don't. But if you are forced to work a job for other people, you have no choice. If they say "be a vulture or you're fired," then you can either be a vulture or get fired. And if you are locked into your life because of financial/educational/business/life decisions (or lack of decisions) that keep you locked to your job, you must do what your boss says, you must lie, you must compromise yourselves, and this is how people get screwed over by their jobs. When you create independently of others, you can do whatever the hell you want.

 

 

Here are your steps:

 

1) Get educated. If you're in school, finish. Network like crazy when you are a student. Doors are open to students that are not for non-students (internships, interviews, benefit of the doubts, lack of employment history, etc). Use that to get a job, and from there, still network like crazy. Hang out with professionals who do what you want to do, express interest, always be learning. They will see you are an interesting and intelligent person, and want to work with you and will want their friends to work with you. People will introduce you to opportunities you didn't even know existed, because you are trying to be SMART.

 

2) Don't be afraid of money.

 

3) Use your success to take vacations on the beach and not have to worry about where the next meal/paycheck/doctor's appointment is going to come from.

 

 

Hey man, that nomadic lifestyles sound uber romantic and fun. But it's pretty stressful as well I've had my share of nomadic experiences and met a few nomadic folks. You always think "yeah, I'll live in nature, it will be awesome." But as soon as you notice an empty space on the floor of their living room that looks like it can fit you, someone always utters the question "hey would it be okay if I stayed here tonight?" or some such other question

 

I don't want to be a moocher and honestly I don't want people moochin off me. But maybe that's just how I was raised by a conservative family that believed in self reliance and not asking favors of people. I get that we should all be one and share the wealth and all that good stuff... but, you know... I don't know, maybe I'm just a jerk. I like having my own place, my own money, and yes, if I want to take a vacation to the tropics, I like being able to do that without having to be a beach bum for life.

[voidisyinyang]

I went to my bank across the street from my workplace.

 

I wondered why my Visa transaction on my debit card was posted on my account as a withdrawl and then it was removed again.

 

Then weeks later the same transaction was posted again right when my account was low so that it trigger a ton of overdrafts.

 

I kept asking the banker why that withdrawl would get disappeared from my account.

 

He couldn't answer me so then he said he was going to call the cops. haha.

 

I didn't even respond to that and just left - shocked and disappointed.

 

 

Damn - US Bank workers get BONUSES based on how many fees they get added to customers!

 

 

the bank improperly manipulated its customers’ debit card and ATM transactions by posting them in highest-to-lowest dollar amount rather than in the actual order in which they were initiated and authorized.

 

http://www.topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/2066-us-bank-reaches-55m-overdraft-fee-class-action-settlement#

 

That's exactly what happened to me.

 

BUSTED.

 

 

 

Class Members of the U.S. Bank overdraft settlement include anyone who had a U.S. Bank consumer deposit account that could be accessed with a U.S. Bank debit card during the applicable Class Period and who were charged one or more overdraft fees as a result of the bank’s improper debit posting policy.....The amount of money you can receive from the U.S. Bank overdraft settlement will depend on the number of overdraft fees you incurred. Only a small percentage of all overdraft fees that were charged by U.S. Bank were affected by high to low posting. So, not every overdraft fee that was charged is eligible for payment under this class action settlement.

 

http://www.topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/4613-u-s-bank-overdraft-class-action-settlement-preliminarily-approved#

 

Dang that's July 29 - so I could be getting some $$ from this.

 

Hah - and the dude was going to call the cops on me - for their illegal fraud!

 

HILARIOUS.

 

The banks are scum.

 

 

A judge in Georgia is quickly becoming an internet folk hero after he publicly slammed U.S. Bank for taking billions in government bailout money and all the while refusing mortgage modifications for homeowners in need of help.

 

http://consumerist.com/2011/11/16/judge-rips-into-us-bank-for-taking-bailout-money-but-denying-mortgage-modifications/

 

$20 billion - U.S. Bank got in taxpayer money.

 

Crazy.

 

Socialism welfare for the banking elite - free money!!

 

so $55 million as the overdraft fee class action suit settlement - compared to $20 billion!!?!!

 

Wow.

[Sloppy Zhang]

Banks are a business that provides a service to us.

 

People tend to forget this. They think, "my money will be safe in a bank." That's what I was taught as a kid. Want to save your money? Put it in a bank.

 

But banks are a business.

 

My family was fairly conservative and from a poor background, so we didn't get taught growing up about all of the ways you can use "finance" to grow your money. All of the things you can "invest" in. We just learn spend less than you make, spend wisely, always read the fine print, always get a second opinion, don't feel pressured to do anything, never make a decision in the heat of the moment, sleep on it for a few days.

 

When I started to get into college and starting to spend money on my own, I didn't really get sold on a lot of extra bank features. I knew what I wanted and I just went with simple stuff. A lot of my other friends got sold the dream by their bank rep.

 

In any case, as I learned more about business and banks, and how banks actually make their money, I took a fresh look at what banks were doing.

 

 

Banks are a business, and they are looking out for THEIR interests, not yours. They are providing a service- they give you a place to store your money and access your money when you need to use it. That is what you are getting from them very simply.

 

Everything else they do is an extension of the fact they are a business looking to make a profit. They will charge you fees for this or fees for that. They may offer to do various services to your money- make it grow faster- as long as you agree to certain terms- not being able to access it for a certain amount of time. You may be able to get different cards with different rates, different rules, different requirements, this or that. Always look at what it's giving you, but always ask yourself: what is this for profit business getting in return?

 

 

Representatives at the bank are paid because they make the bank profitable. That is their job. Remember this.

 

As with all companies, not all will play nice. Some "sales reps" may be more "strongly encouraged" than the sales reps at another bank to "close more business" (get you to sign on the dotted line). One rep might say that you need such-and-such service, but a rep down the street at another bank will tell you that you don't need the service, but instead need another. Your friend's banker uncle might tell you that you need neither, and may tell you to do something else. Or he may agree with a previous rep.

 

The goal isn't to find someone who isn't working an angle. Because in the real world, EVERYONE has an angle (even your local Buddha- his angle is to get you to enlightenment!)

 

The goal is to find someone working an angle that dovetails with the angle you are working (at the very least, security for your money, at the very greatest, profit for your money).

 

Treat banks like a business.

Edited August 12, 2013 by Sloppy Zhang

[voidisyinyang]

treat banks like a business! haha.

 

Dude -- who decides to print money?

 

Money only has value because it's backed up by the military.

 

That's the truth of money.

 

The Chinese empire was the first to print paper money. How could paper have value? Military power to extract resources.

 

http://ww2.blogtalkradio.com/qigongmasters/2013/06/29/gary-clyman

 

This interview with Gary Clyman is awesome - he handles the host very well!! Doesn't slow down for him. haha.

 

http://www.salon.com/2013/03/29/north_dakota_is_bringing_socialism_back_partner/

 

There's a good bank for you!

 

Public banks, my friend.

 

Check it out.

 

Banks should not be privatized - and guess what?

 

Now the taxpayer has to bail out the banks -- and why? So banks can do more derivative speculation -- which just means more and more money has to be printed.

 

haha. That's inflation but it's actually devaluation -- deflation - the money is worth less.

 

 

this state-owned bank is thriving as it helps the state’s community banks, businesses, consumers and students obtain loans at reasonable rates. It also delivers a handsome profit to its owners — the 700,000 residents of North Dakota.

 

See what I'm saying?

 

Do you really want the money supply controlled privately by a handful of secret elites scamming the public?

 

That's worse than welfare - it's stealing from the public!!

 

 

Each time we pay our state and local taxes — and all manner of fees — the state deposits those revenues in a bank. If you’re in any state but North Dakota, nearly all of these deposits end up in Wall Street’s too-big to-fail banks, because those banks are the only entities large enough to handle the load.

 

yep....

Edited August 12, 2013 by pythagoreanfulllotus

[thelerner]

 

Man, the fruit makes me want to go to nature maybe even back to the dawn of time but in the modern world I will stay dodging the materialism, trash and grime

 

Walking around in the tropical wilderness picking ripe fruits to eat everyday what a romanticnotion, but how ideal is it, no way, can’t be done some say

 

Now I see the world as an illusion just like in The Matrix the movie everything I thought was natural is fake even down to a simply smoothie

 

It sure is a tempting, romantic, idealistic thought though will it ever happen, hey, you know it just might, I guess I’ll never know I’ll just continue to dream of tropical trees, fruits and the sun in the sky and sort out later all the when’s, how’s, maybe’s, what for’s and why.

The best way to eat the fruit is to plant the trees yourself. It takes work and a whole lot of patience though. Similarly the truth of the Matrix was life was hard, most people dressed in rags and worked fixing machines in Zion.

 

In nature, animals and insects often beat us to the wonderful fruit, unless you work hard to protect it. Without cultivation (spiritual and physical) you don't get abundance. There's no free lunch, even in nature.

 

Still you can go to places where its easier to accomplish, but don't expect it to be given without hard work. You want fruit, start planting then protect and wait. Berry bushes should start providing in as little 2 years. Time, patience and protecting.

 

Here is a blog on people who've created there Dream. Cool blog on alternative lifestyles: http://www.messynessychic.com/2013/07/26/the-real-life-waterworld-project/

Edited August 13, 2013 by thelerner