rosscb Posted August 13, 2013 Hey guys just a quick question, I'm taking up celibacy and quitting masturbation and porn However I've noticed that I am producing more precum, even when I am not thinking about anything sexual Its just enough to coat my penis and doesn't go everywhere but it is a new experience for me Is this still ok? Its not going to affect progress right? Thanks guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfTheGods Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) if nature is causing it to happen, progress will still ensue if it is not nature i.e., your hand, then it is not progress (in your reasoning per seminal retention) look through the archives, there's probably 10,000 threads on this subject Edited August 13, 2013 by SonOfTheGods Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted August 13, 2013 no it's not o.k. the psychophysiological process of creating the lower tan tien is based on mind celibacy - any thoughts that are evil, licentious or perverse then at the speed of light trigger the cavity of prenatal vitality in the back of the brain to send chi to your scrotum to produce generative fluid. So you want to empty the mind - and the mind celibacy then burns the fluid -- ionizes it -- this means that you have a "sea of chi" below the lower tan tien - by emptying the mind you then turn that "yang jing" into "yin chi" energy. So what you are doing at best is - you have generative fluid but then you have to sublimate it to turn it into "yin jing" energy. "yin jing" energy is still too dirty since it's just sublimated energy but it is not purified by going down the front channel through mind emptiness via the heart - the spirit cavity source - the shen light energy. So if you sublimate that generative fluid -- it has to get past the prostate, up the spine via the cerebrospinal fluid - or else you just piss it out. But again that is still not enough - then it's just dirty pollution in the brain..... And so then through mind celibacy you have to circulate it back down the front channel - to ionize it or purify it again. So it's much easier to just not have any evil, licentious, perverted thoughts and so focus on mind celibacy - and combine that with body sublimation exercises. Without mind celibacy you don't actually create the lower tan tien which is the foundation for the training. So even if you have yin chi energy - if you have evil licenstious perverted thoughts this is called "evil fire of the heart" and so then it just reverses the sublimation process you have done - it deconverts your "yang jing" energy back into "yin jing" which is the blissful heat - and then you lose it as generative fluid again. So any exercises that create generative fluid are wrong - that is why physical stimulation is wrong since it just creates generative fluid - even it is being sublimated. What you want to sublimate is the "sea of chi" energy below the lower tan tien - and that done only through mind celibacy. The goal of "retention" is wrong because if generative fluid is being created it is already based on the wrong direction of training - you have already lost the chi from your "sea of chi" and it has already been turned into generative fluid. So the whole process has to be reversed again through mind celibacy and sublimation. Just sublimation on its own won't work since you'll just have dirty jing energy - yin jing energy - and it won't turn into yin chi energy which is down by purifying the "sea of chi" into the lower tan tien - via the mind celibacy or emptiness. The cavity of prenatal vitality in the back of the brain is the closed cavity of spirit. When you open the cavity of spirit or shen light third eye energy it is opened as the cavity of spirit-vitality - the chi energy has to first be built up to open the cavity of spirit-vitality. That is then the yang chi energy but it is made from the yuan chi - the prenatal sea of chi below the lower tan tien. If you burn that out through evil, licentious, perverted thoughts then you have to try to use postnatal jing energy to being the process again. Emptying the mind is how the process is begun again..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites