Poll, should we install word press 1.5

[Pietro]

The great day have come, Word Press 1.5 is now the official release. Word Press is by far the best blog software around. It is open source, it has been defined web application of the year, and it has tons of plugins who let it easily adapt to our needs.

 

It can be used by many users at the same time, and it can give to each user different categories. So we could have a blog for each of us, and then we could also see all the posts on sungazing from a certain user.

 

We would also get an rss feed for all posts, for all the posts from one user.

There are many many positive elements.

 

installing it is 5 minutes, but it might take a bit to adapt it perfectly to our needs.

 

The only negative problem I see is that from the forum we would not see anymore the new training logs post, unless we make a small hack (which I know how to easily do @ Sean)

 

So I call for a poll

 

TAO BUMS DO YOU WANT WORD PRESS AS YOUR BLOG SOFTWARE. Speak now or shut up forever.

[RON JEREMY]

LOOK YA STILL RUN SUSE 8 OR MICCROSOFT, WHY DONT YA UPGRADE YER MACHINE FIRST???

 

AARRGGHHAARRGGHHAARRGGHH!!!

 

BUT SERIOUS, I THINK RIGHT NOW WE BE COOL, WHY GIVE SEAN MORE WORK TO DO? LOOK THEM MOFOS HERE HARDLY USE DA WIKKI, I THINK BETTWEEN DA WIKKI N THIS FORUM WE E PRETY MUCH OK FOR NOW.

PERRHAPS A FEATURE SOMEONE WAS ASKIN FOR WAS DA CHAT MOD, JUST TO SAY VAFANCULO WHEN WE CROSS EACH OTHER ON DA BOARD.

 

ON DA OTHER HAND, WHY NOT, IF SEAN BE WILLIN TO DO IT THAT BE FINE. BUT DA PROBLEM BE PEOPLE THEN HAVE TO LOSE ALL DA OLD JOURNAL ENTRIES N HAVE TO LEARN A NEW PACKAGE WHICH FOR PEOPLE SPENDIN ALL DAY DOIN SHROOMS, BANGIN THEM PROSTATE WITH GREEN DONGS, N STARIN AT DA SUN WITH THEM HUEVOS EXPOSED (ALL REFFERENCE TO ACTUAL FACT N PEOPLE BE CASUAL) CAN BE KINDA CHALLENGIN.

 

AARRGGHHAARRGGHHAARRGGHH!!!

 

BYE NOW

[Pietro]

LOOK YA STILL RUN SUSE 8 OR MICCROSOFT, WHY DONT YA UPGRADE YER MACHINE FIRST???

 

AARRGGHHAARRGGHHAARRGGHH!!!

 

BUT SERIOUS, I THINK RIGHT NOW WE BE COOL, WHY GIVE SEAN MORE WORK TO DO? LOOK THEM MOFOS HERE HARDLY USE DA WIKKI, I THINK BETTWEEN DA WIKKI N THIS FORUM WE E PRETY MUCH OK FOR NOW.

PERRHAPS A FEATURE SOMEONE WAS ASKIN FOR WAS DA CHAT MOD, JUST TO SAY VAFANCULO WHEN WE CROSS EACH OTHER ON DA BOARD.

 

My computer is Windows because I don't know how to switch, and being with an external drive it is not an easy task. If you come here and set it up for me, and then we go to Rome, I will let you meet my sister. But I give no assurance that she won't bite your balls off.

 

Speaking about WP:

It does not have to be Sean. There are plenty of people who can help, Max, Plato, you...

I think that the great majority of people here can help, and this would be a nice place to start.

 

Blogs are different from wiki, and most peaople are de fact using some threads as blog. Yet this is hardly confortable as it is hard to distinguish new posts from comments, etc. The more time passes the more material there will be stored in the forum which will slow down their movement on a real blog.

 

Speaking about the wiki, I feel you are right, too few people are using it. But slowly it is working. The Chemtrail Page is there, as well as the sungazing page. It seems that pages that speak about practices done by few fanatics have more success than common practices where everybody seem to think, oh, weel, anybody else can do it.

 

If you want a chat we can set it up, or add an irc chat. Actually we already have a similar thing as we can send each other messages, yet few people use it.

[sean]

I haven't looked into it in detail, but I don't see how this is a multi-user blog. It's advertised as a personal publishing platform. Can you point me to examples of multiple users having their own blog sections?

 

Personally I think the blog format we have now is working superbly. And as I've mentioned several times eventually I'd like to upgrade us to either Invision Power Board or VBulletin, either of which have amazing forum-intregated blog features. For example, check out the one over at E-Sangha.

 

Sean.

[RON JEREMY]

MAN HOW IN DA WORLD CAN YA HAVE A COMPUTER WITH BOT AN EXTERNAL FLOPY N EXTERNAL HARD DRIVE. DO YA HAVE TO PLUG IT INTO DA ASS O A SHEEP TO RUN IT???

AARRGGHHAARRGGHHAARRGGHH!!!

LOOK YER SISTER 'D BE SUPERHAPPY TO BE WORKED ON BY DA NOTTORIOUS. YAD LOVE TO BE RELLATED TO DA MAHALINGAM!

 

BUT I GUESS YA BE RIGHT AFA DA BLOG BE CONCERN3D, YEA DA SOMMENT THANG YA SAY B3 RIGHT, IN FACT, LOOK AT WHAT HAPENED TO LEZLIES THREAD, IT TURNED INTO EVERYVBODY ELSE TALKIN SHIT EXCEPT DA POOR GIRLIE.

 

WELL WE GOTTA DO SUM MAGIC RITTUAL TO TURN DA TAOBUMMASTER TO IT THOUG.

 

HEY CAN I CHAT WITH YER SISTER. PLEASE LEMME CHAT WITH YER SISTER. SEND ME A TOPLES PIC O YER SISTER SUNBATHIN IN OSTIA!!

 

BYE NOW

 

 

RJ

[Pietro]

I haven't looked into it in detail, but I don't see how this is a multi-user blog. It's advertised as a personal publishing platform. Can you point me to examples of multiple users having their own blog sections?

 

Sure. I have a wp blog: http://blog.pietrosperoni.it

 

I used it alone, yet I have not always been careful with what did I logged into as, so I have 3 posts sent as 'admin' and the rest as 'Pietro'

 

You can see my admin posts here:

http://blog.pietrosperoni.it/autore/admin

and my Pietro posts here:

http://blog.pietrosperoni.it/autore/pietro

 

 

At the moment I have not set up the rss to differentiate between the two modes, still you can get the rss of my Pietro entry as:

http://blog.pietrosperoni.it/autore/pietro/rss

http://blog.pietrosperoni.it/autore/admin/rss

unless you want the rss 2.0 which would be at

http://blog.pietrosperoni.it/autore/admin/rss2

or atom or rdf (atom/rdf)

 

We can set it up so that anybody can register, only registered user above a certain level can register other people.

New people can blog, or new people cannot blog or new entries from new people have first to be accepted.

 

Personally I think the blog format we have now is working superbly.

 

Our system as a blog works? You must be kidding, there are no rss feeds, comments get confused with posts, no way to look at only the posts, and categories are simply impossible. All this makes REALLY painful to follow one user.

 

And as I've mentioned several times eventually I'd like to upgrade us to either Invision Power Board or VBulletin, either of which have amazing forum-intregated blog features. For example, check out the one over at E-Sangha.

 

Some of the people in that forum use wp:

Look:

http://www.e-sangha.com/journal/1/index.php

And look at his source code.

 

For the rest, the site you pointed to seem very good too, albeit REALLY slow, I hope is not the software.

Post can only enter in one category (but each user can have his individual categories). I haven't seen any technorati tags, which also would make extremely easy to follow certain topic.

 

I think we should carefully examine the pros and cons of both and try to reach consensus. If not just go for a vote.

 

Please,wait to install the software that we have reached consensus with a final vote. This is an important step and is important for it to be an action of the community.

[sean]

Sure. I have a wp blog: http://blog.pietrosperoni.it

 

I used it alone, yet I have not always been careful with what did I logged into as, so I have 3 posts sent as 'admin' and the rest as 'Pietro'

 

You can see my admin posts here:

http://blog.pietrosperoni.it/autore/admin

and my Pietro posts here:

http://blog.pietrosperoni.it/autore/pietro

 

Where is the list of each of these user's individual blogs?

 

Our system as a blog works? You must be kidding, there are no rss feeds, comments get confused with posts, no way to look at only the posts, and categories are simply impossible. All this makes REALLY painful to follow one user.

No, I'm not kidding. In fact I think the current setup works very well and I actually like it alot. I also prefer it over what I've seen of WordPress.

 

The current setup is also not confusing at all. Each person has there own thread that is their blog. Simple. Anyone can join in on that thread and it creates some of the liveliest discussions here on Taobums. Discussions that would quite possibly not occur if the comments were buried.

 

I don't care about "rss feeds". And if you can find me five people on here that think this is a real issue I'll be surprised.

 

For the rest, the site you pointed to seem very good too, albeit REALLY slow, I hope is not the software.

Post can only enter in one category (but each user can have his individual categories). I haven't seen any technorati tags, which also would make extremely easy to follow certain topic.

 

I think we should carefully examine the pros and cons of both and try to reach consensus. If not just go for a vote.

 

Please,wait to install the software that we have reached consensus with a final vote. This is an important step and is important for it to be an action of the community.

We'll see Pietro. 4 votes has me hardly convinced that radically altering the entire site layout and losing months of people's journal entries in the process is an "action of the community".

 

In the meantime why don't you spend more time actually using this forum for it's intended purpose.

 

 

Sean

[RON JEREMY]

HERE MAHAEJACULATOR PIETRO, HERES DA RIGHT PACKAGE FOR YA:

http://colinux.org/

 

NOW YA CAN *RUN* LINUX FROM YER CRAPY *WINDOWS* FLOPPY-LESS MACHINE.

NOW THAT'D BE A REAL TAOIST SYSTEM I GUESS. THAT'S TOTTALLY AGGAINST ANY COMMON CONCEPT. INSTEAD O RUNNIN WINDOWS GAMES ON WINE FROM LINUX, YA CAN RUN LINUX CRAPY GAMES FROM WINDOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

AARRGGHHAARRGGHHAARRGGHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

RJ

[Max]

I had Linux but i've changed my mind. First, you can make any Windows bulletproof if you know what to do. Second, if you use your computer just for browsing, Linux is probably ok. If you need it for Web publishing or Graphic design, then you need heavy programs like Photoshop and such- the free graphic programs that you get with Linux don't cut it.

 

One of possible reasons to have Linux is that you can't afford to buy all the good programs for windows. Tha's why people created http://www.phazeddl.com/ and http://soft-best.net/. BTW, check this out, lol http://soft-best.net/news.php?go=2493

 

Ohh, I wouldn't use the above links if I didn't have a good antivirus, pop-up blocker, and a moleware detector.

[RON JEREMY]

I had Linux but i've changed my mind. First, you can make any Windows bulletproof if you know what to do. Second, if you use your computer just for browsing, Linux is probably ok. If you need it for Web publishing or Graphic design, then you need heavy programs like Photoshop and such- the free graphic programs that you get with Linux don't cut it.

NO YA CANT MAKE WINDOWS BULLET PROOF. YA HAVE NO FUKIN IDEA WHATS LURKIN BEHIND WINDOWS. NO FUKIN IDEA. PERRHAPS IF YA BE A CRAZY ASSEMBLY LANGUAGE PROGRAMER WITH 30 YEARS O EXPERIENCE YA MIGHT FIND SOME STRANGE THANGS.

 

FOR GRAPPHICS, YA CAN USE DA GIMP. THATS A SUPPERCOOL PROGRAM.

DA ONLY REASON TO USE WINDOWS IS, TO PLAY GAMES.THEN YEA, I AGGREE. THERE BE TOO MUCH $$$ PRESURE BEHIND GAME INDUSTRY FOR LINUX GAMES TO BE EQUAL TO WINDOWS GAMES. ALSO, GAMES BE VERY LOW LEVEL PROGGRAMMIN, N WINDOWS N INTEL BE PARTNERS IN CRIME SO GAME PROGGRAMMIN RELY ON DA PARTNERSHIP.

 

ON OTHER HAND, WHO GIVES A FUK ABOUT WHAT OS ONE BE USIN???

AS LONG AS I CAN WATCH PORN N WRITE SHIT ON DA TAOBUM BOARD, ALL BE COOL TO ME DA MAHALINGAM!!!

[Max]

NO YA CANT MAKE WINDOWS BULLET PROOF.

You are correct. But I can make it extremely hard to hack, especially if you have 2 firewalls with most of the windows services disabled.

Here is a good article on how Windows is spying on us, and how to stop it.

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/10/298702.html

 

You can check if your computer is secure by going here:

http://scan.sygate.com/

 

Gimp is good, still can't beat photoshop.

And you are right. Most of the reasons for Windows is gaming.

 

Anyway, I don't like Windows as much as you do- it's just most of the programs I use are Windows only.

[sean]

I had Linux but i've changed my mind. First, you can make any Windows bulletproof if you know what to do. Second, if you use your computer just for browsing, Linux is probably ok. If you need it for Web publishing or Graphic design, then you need heavy programs like Photoshop and such- the free graphic programs that you get with Linux don't cut it.

Yeah Photoshop is unbeatable IMO. But you can still run it on Linux via VMWare or Codeweavers. Last time I looked into it that's how Disney and Dreamworks use Photoshop on their all-Linux pipeline. Most notable graphics studios use Linux for three major reasons. It's free, massively scaleable and open source. Some studios are surprisingly throwing G5's into the mix since OSX is at least Unix based now. But it's actually extremely rare to see a mid to large size graphics house use Windows in any major capacity. It's just too much of a hassle to get under the hood and build an efficient pipeline with it. Longhorn may change this though, particularly with the introduction of monad. If you are a command line or shell script geek, definitely check out the videos in the preceeding link.

 

Sean.

[Pietro]

Sure. I have a wp blog: http://blog.pietrosperoni.it

 

I used it alone, yet I have not always been careful with what did I logged into as, so I have 3 posts sent as 'admin' and the rest as 'Pietro'

 

You can see my admin posts here:

http://blog.pietrosperoni.it/autore/admin

and my Pietro posts here:

http://blog.pietrosperoni.it/autore/pietro

 

Where is the list of each of these user's individual blogs?

 

There isn't naturally any. Yet there is an easy way to make a list of all the authors on a lateral column, as I did (just after the cathegories). Such list does not include the administrator, which is why, right now there is only my name.

 

Another way can be to insert a small javascript that using the rss feed (again!) echoes the title of the post. SO we would have a page of all the last entries. It can also be done as a set of javascripts, one for each author, and always giving only one post, and this would make a system similar to the ones you are refering too (although probably not so pretty)

 

Our system as a blog works? You must be kidding, there are no rss feeds, comments get confused with posts, no way to look at only the posts, and categories are simply impossible. All this makes REALLY painful to follow one user.

No, I'm not kidding. In fact I think the current setup works very well and I actually like it alot. I also prefer it over what I've seen of WordPress.

 

The current setup is also not confusing at all. Each person has there own thread that is their blog. Simple. Anyone can join in on that thread and it creates some of the liveliest discussions here on Taobums. Discussions that would quite possibly not occur if the comments were buried.

 

Oh, you can easily add something that shows the last comments made.

 

I don't care about "rss feeds". And if you can find me five people on here that think this is a real issue I'll be surprised.

 

This is irrelevant. The fact that You don't care means absolutely nothing. The only things that care is: is there is someone who cares, and someone who needs that feature. Even if it was only one person. In any case the system you are proposing does have rss feed, sorry.

 

 

I think we should carefully examine the pros and cons of both and try to reach consensus. If not just go for a vote.

 

Please,wait to install the software that we have reached consensus with a final vote. This is an important step and is important for it to be an action of the community.

We'll see Pietro. 4 votes has me hardly convinced that radically altering the entire site layout and losing months of people's journal entries in the process is an "action of the community".

 

Well, 4 votes, out of 5 who went to vote, seems not bad. I probably should have added an entry 'I don't care' (I actually did, but I pressed the wrong button as I was submitting).

 

There would be no radical altering, nor any 'llosing months of journal entries". They would still be there, and anybody who wants could keep on using the old system. We just need to add a feature like the wiki that works parallel, and listed above near the forume/wiki/article.

 

Said that, you have agreed not to use your power unless it was "absolutely legally necessary". And to take polls to decide if a decision you take was disapproved by someone. I am saying that in this issue that the decision is a major one, you should just take a poll. Would you rather implement your system, have me saying: "we should have discussed" and then go back and make a poll? Or would you then eat back your words, and say, well, now I have done the work so we don't come back. There are small changes and big changes. This is a big one, and any decision taken by a single person will automatically make someone unhappy, and thus require a poll. Just stick to what you said.

 

In the meantime why don't you spend more time actually using this forum for it's intended purpose.

 

Dear Sean, I am an active user of this community from 1998. I read the forum every day, and I am among the 10 most prolific users. When I have something to add to the discussion I do it. I also take care of the wiki, and with Ron and Yoda I work from time to time to store some of the information that is generated from this forum. Which eventually might be what permits to new user to know what's what. And yes, I also care for the forum, and discuss its organisation. I do it because I feel this as a community, and not as your personal site. When I raised the question time ago, many people have supported me, saying that the work that I was doing (being a picky asshole with you!) was actually quite important.

 

 

How else would you like me to help you? :shrug: