Jeff

The Lords Prayer - Meaning lost in translation...?

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No it doesn't. Only to those who want to bend meanings to say what they want it to say.

 

here's an example:

 

We should fear God (Matthew 10:28)

We should love God (Matthew 22:37)

There is no fear in love (1 John 4:18) :wub:

You may want research the Hebrew and Aramaic original meaning of the word "fear". Think more respect and devotion. Or, if your prefer, the Holy Bible describes the meaning of fear itself...

 

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline (Proverbs 1:7).

 

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding (Psalm 111:10).

 

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding (Proverbs 9:10).

 

Regards,

Jeff

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You may want research the Hebrew and Aramaic original meaning of the word "fear". Think more respect and devotion. Or, if your prefer, the Holy Bible describes the meaning of fear itself...

 

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline (Proverbs 1:7).

 

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding (Psalm 111:10).

 

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding (Proverbs 9:10).

 

Regards,

Jeff

Nope, wrong again, Jeff

 

Fear [N]

 

Of some ten Hebrew nouns and eight verbs that are regularly translated "fear, " "to fear, " "to be afraid, " and the like, only one of each is commonly used in the Old Testament and they both spring from the root yr (the noun being yira [h'a.rIy] or mora [a'r/m] and the verb yare [aer"y]). The New Testament employs phobos and phobeo almost exclusively as noun and verb, respectively, and these are the terms consistently used by the Septuagint to translate Hebrew yira [h'a.rIy] or mora [a'r/m] and yare [aer"y].

 

The fundamental and original idea expressed by these terms covers a semantic range from mild easiness to stark terror, depending on the object of the fear and the circumstances surrounding the experience. There is no separate Hebrew of Greek lexeme describing fear of God so presumably such fear was from earliest times, the same kind of reaction as could be elicited from any encounter with a surprising, unusual, or threatening entity

 

http://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionaries/bakers-evangelical-dictionary/fear.html

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If jesus was so holy and pious, full of zen, he should use less violent parables.

 

Jesus is just like his daddy yahweh, a blood thirsty demon.

 

Don't get mad, bro - you wanted me to engage you :)

 

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Hi SonsOfTheGod,

 

I am not getting mad. I always enjoy a good discussion. Also, it seems like you have made your full position clear in your words above.

 

Best regards,

Jeff

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Hi SonsOfTheGod,

 

I am not getting mad. I always enjoy a good discussion. Also, it seems like you have made your full position clear in your words above.

 

Best regards,

Jeff

I also enjoyed it.

 

Peace

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If someone has a bone to pick or axe to grind they can find fault in anything and everything that they are at odds with.

There is no denial that what My God has delivered me from death several times and has blessed me and many others that I know.

God is Love. Perfect Love. Everything done by Him is done for a Cause so Great and Grand that most will miss it and never get IT.

Jesus Christ, My Messiah, My Salvation, Was Is and Always Will Be Perfect. Come to Victory Restoration Center in Sacramento and you'll see how miraculous God is. Matter of fact, if you knew me before my Salvation you'd know how real and true My God really is because God has transformed me into a better man!

 

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Conversations such as these are good to get the creative juices flowing and if continued in a positive manner they make people grow in many ways. In the event that I dont come back to this thread I thank those that read my posts and allow me to Glorify my God.

Peace and Blessings!

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