esoteric websites ban petition,please sign

[suninmyeyes]

Hi everyone ,

 

Just got this through the mail ..

 

Please sign this petition on filtering esoteric websites in UK . It is already happened on Orange mobile phone and this issue is being discussed within some days to come .

So this needs to be signed ASAP , because if they get loads emails and signatures they cannot simply ignore it ,we need clear communication on subject .

 

Smells like DICTATORSHIP wearing a mental cloak of some friendly Merry Poppins like personality.

 

 

This is insane and its catching on to other countries too it seems .

 

http://www.change.org/petitions/uk-prime-minister-david-cameron-stop-the-unnecessary-censor-of-esoteric-websites-and-web-forums?utm_source=supporter_message&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=petition_message_notice

Edited September 2, 2013 by suninmyeyes

[Ish]

Yeah this is absolutely ridiculous, what's their real motive behind this?

 

 

Just because it does not fit into mainstream paradigm it should be censored? This is actually quite scary.

Edited September 2, 2013 by Ish

[Friend]

The thing if they go away with this they will try to do this everwhere.

[suninmyeyes]

Yeah this is absolutely ridiculous, what's their real motive behind this?

 

 

Just because it does not fit into mainstream paradigm it should be censored? This is actually quite scary.

Well yeah , its terrifying . I have lived through dictatorship for 17 years and know it when I smell it ..

The real motive ? That is why clear communication on this is SO important .

Check out the links in the letter , they is a lot of info in there on different bans taking place , unfortunately my copy and paste skillz on brand new Windows 8 are driving me mad .

As far as I understand it they are discussing it behind closed door , with no other input at the moment (pls correct me if I am wrong on this anyone ).

 

The thing if they go away with this they will try to do this everwhere.

YES , the fire could spread in different directions depending how the wind blows. This stuff needs to be debated thoroughly with the doors and window wides open .

[Friend]

Well yeah , its terrifying . I have lived through dictatorship for 17 years and know it when I smell it ..

The real motive ? That is why clear communication on this is SO important .

Check out the links in the letter , they is a lot of info in there on different bans taking place , unfortunately my copy and paste skillz on brand new Windows 8 are driving me mad .

As far as I understand it they are discussing it behind closed door , with no other input at the moment (pls correct me if I am wrong on this anyone ).

 

YES , the fire could spread in different directions depending how the wind blows. This stuff needs to be debated thoroughly with the doors and window wides open .

 

Well I contacted circles in Germany since people are not seem to know about this petition and I told

them on the serious matter it can affect as well Germany and other places. Hope they spread it

as they reach more people than I do.

 

What is it with the love of dictatorship and removing people's right to choose?

 

Some blocked heart centre stuff there for sure.

To give the chance to open our own hearts and courage to choose the right thing and act,

by presenting the bad thing and to learn that we a not alone standing against dictatorship

and that there are other who want maintain the peoples right to choose.

And hope that this act may open his heart and mind and prove him that people still

care for their freedom.

[Harmonious Emptiness]

does the petition count people who do not live in the UK?

[skydog]

just gonna chat with orange and ask them why they are doing this ha ha ha

 

its free phone 150

 

ha ha

 

 

sigh...playing this crappy pop music while i wait

Edited September 3, 2013 by skydog

[Harmonious Emptiness]

just gonna chat with orange and ask them why they are doing this ha ha ha

 

its free phone 150

 

ha ha

 

 

sigh...playing this crappy pop music while i wait

 

Try to talk to someone who makes decisions there if you can..

[Friend]

does the petition count people who do not live in the UK?

Yes

[suninmyeyes]

does the petition count people who do not live in the UK?

I would think so -- yes , it is a genuine show of concern for this situation .

 

 

just gonna chat with orange and ask them why they are doing this ha ha ha

 

its free phone 150

 

ha ha

 

 

sigh...playing this crappy pop music while i wait

from :

 

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https://wiki.openrightsgroup.org/wiki/Orange_Safeguard

Orange Safeguard

 

Orange Safeguard is the name given to the adult content filter applied to pay-as-you-go Orange phones in the UK.

block page example

ukmobiledata.net page (on EE)

Categories

Categories blocked by Safeguard are[1]:

Anonymizers: These sites allow you to browse the Internet and access content anonymously.

Anorexia - Bulimia: Promoting and instigating eating disorders.

Gambling: Access to online gambling such as casinos and any other online services that let you place bets.

Chat: Where you chat in real time to people you don’t know.

Bombs: Explaining how to prepare, make, build and use explosives and explosive devices.

Dating: Websites for match-making where the user can meet other people - make friends, find a partner, etc.

Forums: Where you’re invited to take part in discussions on predetermined topics with people you don’t know.

Pornography: Websites with a pornographic or sexual content.

Racism: Sites promoting racist behaviour based on culture, race, religion, ideology, etc.

Sects: Websites on universally acknowledged sects. Within this category URLs are included on organizations that promote directly or indirectly:

(i) group, animal or individual injuries,

(ii) esoteric practices,

(iii) content that sets a bad example for young children: that teaches or encourages children to perform harmful acts or imitate dangerous behaviour,

(iv) content that creates feelings of fear, intimidation, horror, or psychological terror,

(v) Incitement or depiction of harm against any individual or group based on gender, sexual orientation, ethnic, religious or national identity.

Violence: Containing openly violent content and/or that promote violence or defend it.

Hackers: Containing info on hacking, pirated and illegal software as well as software used for hacking.

Malware: Websites containing malicious code or programs such as viruses Trojans etc.

Spyware: An application that collects confidential and general information from a PC to then transmit to a third party. All this takes place without knowledge and/or consent of the user.

 

 

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So people -- we are here on TTB according to above written universally acknowledged as a sect !

 

Wonder how far is all this in general gonna go ...

 

New genre of wars seems to be appearing . They are becoming more and more subtle . It is not only a war for the land any longer , it is a war for heart and soul of the people . Or is this just more obvious now ?

 

Breaking a connection with a centre of our being on mass level , strange times .. To what point do we need to be taken care of and show that we care ?

 

What is the real role of responsibility ? How important is responsibility ?

Edited September 3, 2013 by suninmyeyes

[zerostao]

for example , a small town library in usa, used an esoteric blocker and the XYP clan that i belong to was being blocked.

and youtube was being blocked too

[skydog]

hmm well to be honest, I know why they would ban esoteric web sites, but one can only sign petitions etc, anger wont help anything, times are changing, things are changing, positive and negative.

[suninmyeyes]

Hey Zeros , You Tube blocked too ?

This is crazy .

 

All we can do is make sure to be human conduits for the right kind of stuff to come into being through words , thoughts and actions , be responsible in that way .

That is huge amount -- A LOT , because if we all do like this world would be a better place .

 

This is some mad psychic levels we live in , it sways so strong that people are loosing a grip . We need some strong Mental Fu Discrimination Skills and spread it around ..

hmm well to be honest, I know why they would ban esoteric web sites, but one can only sign petitions etc, anger wont help anything, times are changing, things are changing, positive and negative.

Times are changing true , that seems to be the role of Time .

At the same time on one level I sometimes deeply feel exactly what I am suppose to do and stand up for .

Otherwise life is like some Shapeless Soup without seasoning , made with swamp water and dust .

 

About anger -- it has to be understood and it actualy does/can help a lot , it is there for purpose and appropriate in some situations . Infact it can be wonderful if used right .

Much in the same way fire can be used or misused .

 

What is your personal opinion as to why are the esoteric sites being banned ?

[skydog]

Ah yes, I was going to edit my post, but cant do that anymore.. hahaha

 

Well yes, anger has a role, you are right, and you are probably following your intuition.

 

My personal take may sound a little skewed/paranoid.

 

But I remember reading in Ken Cohens book about Qigong 3 years ago how qigong masters were tortured and jailed or had to fled because they were causing people to become more revolutionary and think for themselves.

 

I went through a phase where I watched every "conspiracy thing" under the sun, it was helpful because it opened my eyes quite a lot, even if some of the stuff was paranoid, untrue, a lot of it, was just shocking.

 

And yeh, people who will think for themselves, question things, authority, rebel etc are dangerous for business, politics, people being manipulated.

 

Then there is other stuff about how people will act when they become very sensitive to energy, how will they eat, behave, work, will they quit work etc etc.

 

To be honest, I forced myself to look at it from their point of view, and I remember a past life as a slave owner, and I can remember healing it, where I would feel really angry about people becoming smart, thinking for themselves, self esteem etc. So I can understand how someones whole livelihood depends on other people, they dont really want to give it up. (This perspective may be a little skewed)

 

AH yes, I think things like prayer, psychic control, manifestation works on a level of healing the planet/changing the world too, and not just money, so it is an interesting thing to think about, not that I have too much knowledge about this subject.

 

One of my Qigong masters said never to behave in a way that is disharmonious to society/talk about it with others etc. I can see why.

 

So..this is one of those posts, I might like to edit later :/

[Harmonious Emptiness]

Sects: Websites on universally acknowledged sects. Within this category URLs are included on organizations that promote directly or indirectly:

(i) group, animal or individual injuries,

(ii) esoteric practices,

(iii) content that sets a bad example for young children: that teaches or encourages children to perform harmful acts or imitate dangerous behaviour,

(iv) content that creates feelings of fear, intimidation, horror, or psychological terror,

(v) Incitement or depiction of harm against any individual or group based on gender, sexual orientation, ethnic, religious or national identity.

 

If they take "esoteric practices" out of that list the only "sect" left would be basically be Satanism.

 

Including "esoteric practices" in the list covers basically all Eastern religions.

 

They need to take "esoteric practices" out of the list as it basically discriminates against against ALL non-monotheistic religions (and a few monotheists too, like Sufi).

 

Including "esoteric practices" there is a serious culturally discriminatory act with no basis in protecting anyone.

 

They seem to assume that "esoteric practices" will include harming people or one's self. Again, this is a baseless cultural discrimination against ALL non-monotheistic religions and must be treated as such.

 

 

That is how the battle needs to be fought, imo.

[suninmyeyes]

...

 

...(This perspective might be a little skewed.)

...

One of my Qigong masters said never to behave in a way that is disharmonious to society/talk about it with others etc. I can see why....

Thanks for sharing your perspective and where are you coming from Skydog .

To be honest any perspective is a bit skewed and not just yours , purley because it is a perspective . It is -- an inherent nature of perspective .

 

Never to behave in a way that is disharmonious to society -- are wise words . Interesting question would be :

what is harmonious to society ? Is it situational or is there a rule ? Or ?

[skydog]

Thanks for sharing your perspective and where are you coming from Skydog .

To be honest any perspective is a bit skewed and not just yours , purley because it is a perspective . It is -- an inherent nature of perspective .

 

Never to behave in a way that is disharmonious to society -- are wise words . Interesting question would be :

what is harmonious to society ? Is it situational or is there a rule ? Or ?

 

No problem, yes you are right

 

Yes, it is, this question can be debated.

 

I think he was just trying to keep us safe.

 

I still have many plans to change society but at the same time I pay attention to what he said. For example I am looking to set up communities for people who wish to transform themselves spiritually/work on their creativity/live and be more integrated and empowered to share whatever they have whilst volunteering/living cheaply, in Mexico, to start with then other countries. I actually am close to having some funding once I sort everything out. Also I use art as a way to express my love for nature, the soul, energy work, intuition and hope to expand on this.

 

Dont get me wrong, I totally understand the dislike of how things with many people are being forced.

 

However my plans are not everyones plans, some people should work more on the level of social change, or whatever it is they feel they want to do.

 

and (I might like to edit this post later too)

Edited September 3, 2013 by skydog

[suninmyeyes]

If they take "esoteric practices" out of that list the only "sect" left would be basically be Satanism.

 

Including "esoteric practices" in the list covers basically all Eastern religions.

 

They need to take "esoteric practices" out of the list as it basically discriminates against against ALL non-monotheistic religions (and a few monotheists too, like Sufi).

 

Including "esoteric practices" there is a serious culturally discriminatory act with no basis in protecting anyone.

 

They seem to assume that "esoteric practices" will include harming people or one's self. Again, this is a baseless cultural discrimination against ALL non-monotheistic religions and must be treated as such.

 

 

That is how the battle needs to be fought, imo.

Yes , you right Harmonious -- cultural discrimination . This goes so deep -- into our identity here in Europe that is shaped by mainstream Christianity . Just had a thought , wonder how would the similar type of bans look like in India for example ?

 

So it is a desire for domination and not freedom .

 

Def a battle for fighting for , if I look deeper -- it is a battle I have been fighting long time now . This is just a fragment of its outer manifestation .

[Flolfolil]

if as a US citizen it will make a difference to sign this petition i will i also hope everyone votes on the petition stickied in general as well

[suninmyeyes]

and (I might like to edit this post later too)

hahaha yes dear , edit it away !!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes everyone is different . Your plans sound good , you gotta do what you gotta do . Worst is trying to live someone elses life and think and embody someone elses thoughts .

You are Skydog living the Skydog way .

[Aetherous]

"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."

- Thomas Jefferson

[skydog]

hahaha yes dear , edit it away !!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes everyone is different . Your plans sound good , you gotta do what you gotta do . Worst is trying to live someone elses life and think and embody someone elses thoughts .

You are Skydog living the Skydog way .

 

 

Best wishes on the suninmyeyes way haha

[Friend]

We have good news from the rest of 1870 something the Petition only need 797 then it is completed!

[Friend]

Almost finished! 231 at this to go!