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[ganjaboy]

Haha yeah that's it. I suggest to sit in meditation and contemplate it.

I have tried that and that is my preferred approach to energy sublimation/dissipation. I just sometimes find it hard to balance what is an ideal, perfectly energy-balanced approach to sexuality and then the more natural, human side, which is that we all have desires. Is occasional fulfillment of these earthly, physical/carnal desires an impediment to spiritual growth, if it is not a lifestyle?

 

Perhaps this is an inappropriate comparison, but take a piece of chocolate cake...one won't hurt you, but if you make a diet of it that's a different story..

 

I mean, how long can you deny yourself of something. Maybe a balance of moderation/discipline is key?

 

Several religions, such as Judaism for example, promotes spiritual/loving sex, but admits base physical desire and makes occasional exception for it, with the stipulation that it is best not to become too attached to the physical. That said the religion strongly shuns sex or cultivation with anyone besides a life partner, which I don't know i agree with

 

I started all this essentially just as the 100-day challenge, not necessarily for retention, which is the wrong mindset, but just in terms of 1) stopping self-pleasure, and 2) starting to play with the conserved energies. I am still a novice in all of this.

 

I mean, I am in college lol, most of my friends get laid all the time, have fun, and don't worry about it.

Edited September 30, 2013 by dhiggs

[ganjaboy]

Talk to older cultivators about this. I mean serious cultivators not those who like to spend their days just talking about cultivation and rarely hit the meditation cushion.

 

Hmm, try just contemplating the root of sexual desire until it is very clear. Is sexual desire true or false? Then you'll see if you are denying yourself of something that is even there.

 

The reason for only having sex with a life partner is that it prevents one from being driven into sleeping with any girl he wants. If you're an introspective person, you can already tell this from the get-go. You sleep with a girl, then get attached. Then sleep with another girl, and get attached. Then you end up running after sex and get really depressed when you don't. Then you're like a person who eats all day but is never satisfied. If you have a life partner, you don't have to deal with this stress. It develops integrity and staying in one place.

 

Your friends may seem like they're happy but have you really talked to them? Most people hide their sadness and then when you really get to know them, it becomes apparent. So don't assume that all your friends are truly happy when they're sleeping with each girl they want.

The desire is definitely there; that's a lot of the energy that I try to work with. I struggle with feeling "good" or "bad" about it. I will say, however, that I can sublimate it if I want.

 

I don't want to fall into the trap of just sleeping with any girl, for sure. I just sometimes wonder if there is harm in me having a sexual experience while still young, now a virgin. To some extent I am afraid to damage some of the inner energy which is still there and has not been corrupted yet.

 

A lot of it is curiosity, I feel.

Edited September 30, 2013 by dhiggs

[hagar]

The desire is definitely there; that's a lot of the energy that I try to work with. I struggle with feeling "good" or "bad" about it. I will say, however, that I can sublimate it if I want.

 

I don't want to fall into the trap of just sleeping with any girl, for sure. I just sometimes wonder if there is harm in me having a sexual experience while still young, now a virgin. To some extent I am afraid to damage some of the inner energy which is still there and has not been corrupted yet.

 

A lot of it is curiosity, I feel.

 

Don´t worry about it! You are 19 years old. 20 years older than you I can say you have plenty of time later to contemplate this.

No harm, and you seem to be on the right track. Don´t think you can control these things. You cannot.

 

h

[RiverSnake]

All of the Qigong masters I know of are married. I wouldn't sweat it too much man. Furthermore, there are ways of having sext that aid your cultivation....just gotta find the right lady.

 

My 2 cents, Peace

Edited October 2, 2013 by OldChi

[ganjaboy]

Thanks for the replies. I can actually describe the type of sexual experience with I believe would aid my cultivation, though i don't know what category it would fall into (sex magick? tantra? qi-gong?)

 

traditional, western sex, obviously, follows a bell-curve shape pattern....the male gets hot, reaches a climax, emits essence, then it's over....hence "wham, bam, thank you ma'am".

 

what i want to do is basically be with a female spiritually/sexually, in a way that gets the kundalini aroused, and "gets the coals hot" so to speak, but not allow it to go further, and in that moment intensify the inner feeling, capture it, and add it to the "bank" of jing. It's difficult to describe, but being "satisfied" in the traditional, over-and-done-with sense of sex leaves me unhappy. i like to get the energies going, but not destroy them -- transfer them. does this make sense???

 

i want to cultivate and celebrate the JOY and pure ECSTASY of being a sexual/spiritual being....not destroy the feeling.

 

for me, a musician, the saved energy from the orgasm i didn't have during my last sexual experience literally could make me hit that guitar just that extra bit harder the makes the difference...

 

it sounds stupid, but in the past, the more i orgasm, the more i become depressed, dejected, uninterested in sex....i pay less attention to my health, my body, etc. i feel like in a relationship, constant male orgasm would lead to sex, which should be joyous and a source of energy, just a boring, rote mechanical activity for him. in the past it let to me treating life with much the same way, moving through it without care or feeling. i lost interest or genuine feeling in my music, it was just a chore as i moved from point A to some unspecified, vague point B.

 

if i had my way i would permanently make orgasm and physical release of jing impossible to myself. this energy can be primed and primed and primed but there are so, so many other ways it can be utilized other than the biologically programmed, reproductive reflex..

 

when this is practised a new type of "love" becomes possible for a man, because he is free of the biological need to ravish a woman like an animal, which can make this same woman his enemy. the sexual experience becomes about the woman's energies completing the man and making his shen full, and vice versa, which is true 'love'.

 

think of the young teen guy who is always horny but who hasn't ever had real sex with a woman (i have been here). i know teens can suck in other ways, but if there's one thing young people are full of it is energy, not quite innocent but still fresh. what if i could marry and have a relationship, but always be this young boy at heart. this isn't to say i couldn't satisfy my partner, but i would do it out of love..not for myself.

 

in short, i want sex to be tantalizing and bringing meaning and intense energy to my life, not destroying my purpose in life.

 

i am still young...i feel like now is the time to experiment and figure things out. would there be harm in me experimenting with sex cultivation with a partner -- perhaps even both sexes? obviously i would have to be sure the other person was on the same wavelength.

 

of course...the other thing is, nothing is black or white. reality is, i am a male, yang-charged, and a TAURUS nonetheless. so, of course i highly enjoy sex physically as well. can the two - spiritual and physical - live in harmony?

 

sorry for rambling. i'm crazy lol

Edited October 2, 2013 by dhiggs

[ganjaboy]

I am going on 2 months since a self-induced release of physical jing. I feel that I have literally been reborn a new human; there is a tangible energy and determination in my life, and individuals around me can sense this energy and are drawn to me. Fun fact: I have, in this period, received attention from tramp-like girls who are looking for sex. Can they literally sense this cultivated energy?

 

I am determined to not give in and to become and achieve what I want in my life; short-term, perhaps over a period of five years....

[RiverSnake]

I am going on 2 months since a self-induced release of physical jing. I feel that I have literally been reborn a new human; there is a tangible energy and determination in my life, and individuals around me can sense this energy and are drawn to me. Fun fact: I have, in this period, received attention from tramp-like girls who are looking for sex. Can they literally sense this cultivated energy?

 

I am determined to not give in and to become and achieve what I want in my life; short-term, perhaps over a period of five years....

When I look back on the time I've spent in cultivation so far there are 3 things that are bench marks for drastic steps in my practice:

 

1. Practicing Retention

2. Practicing my current Neigong

3. Learning about the Tarot

 

Of all 3 I'd say in honesty that retention has been the most powerful. It's like a jet packed strapped to your back. Just gotta learn to balance and channel the energy so you can use it to your benefit. Enjoy and use the power it bestows wisely. Best of luck.

 

My 2 cents, Peace

Edited October 8, 2013 by OldChi

[ganjaboy]

You have an advantage. You're a virgin and cultivating this. So your results may be better than those of us who had sex before.

I agree an advantage, but it's difficult. Most 19 yr olds have already had sex several times, and having the "v-card" as it is called is often a source of embarrassment for me. Usually, especially when around certain types of people, I end up lying to save face, and usually make my lies quite outlandish. It's a good source of amusement actually

 

 

 

When I look back on the time I've spent in cultivation so far there are 3 things that are bench marks for drastic steps in my practice:

 

1. Practicing Retention

2. Practicing my current Neigong

3. Learning about the Tarot

 

Of all 3 I'd say in honesty that retention has been the most powerful. It's like a jet packed strapped to your back. Just gotta learn to balance and channel the energy so you can use it to your benefit. Enjoy and use the power it bestows wisely. Best of luck.

 

My 2 cents, Peace

Thanks so much. Interestingly, I have greatly reduced, and am hoping to completely eliminate nocturnal emissions naturally. I avoid pornographic media like the plague; all that is necessary to validate my existence as a sexual being is the natural arousal that comes from real women. Also, this is a much, much more mild than the extreme which is given from pornography, which is completely unnatural for the human species to experience on a regular basis. I watched "The Great Porn Experiment" on YT and suddenly it all made sense.

 

It may sound harsh, but strictly speaking, the male species is designed to expend its genetic material for reproductive purposes, dwindle, and then die, while the female lives on. Societally, this is evident in men who have sex early in their lives, get trapped into child-support, have mid-life crises/trapped in jobs they hate, etc.

 

The energy is hard to deal with sometimes, but I want to make the most of it and do what I really want to in life with my music and creativity, and keep that child-like excitement and freshness about the world alive for as long as I can. Then when I do find a partner, in perhaps 10-11 yrs time, it can be about love, and at that time I would be interested in ways to have a fulfilling sexual relationship that allows the energy to go on and on without being destroyed.

Edited October 8, 2013 by dhiggs

[eye_of_the_storm]

There are a few good threads regarding this here and there worth searching for...

Being in the presence of women is nice... just like being in the presence of a flower and so on

We can admire like a flower/ or art or music

I think the relationship/ or exchange of energy is mutual...

So you have a strong yang energy, they enjoy that and you enjoy their company also... this is the dance

So you are both like Suns... basking in the radiant energy of each other //

Or like human and plants...

humans breath in oxygen and breath out carbon dioxide

plants breath in carbon dioxide and breath out oxygen...

there is mutual benefit...

Let the energy flow over your entire body

It is good, it is vital/ life force and divine creative energy

you will better fulfill your masculine + creative potential in this manner

////

People think sublimation is missing out... they have never tried it and experienced it though...

similar with many things on the path... they believe they have hit the peak experience of being human via the orgasm.... but this pale in comparison to the heights achieved through transforming/ transmuting life force energy to higher purposes...

the energy / vitality... the constant mild bliss/ joy etc ... your senses become heightened... music is so much sweeter... life becomes vibrant... colours sparkle etc

music, art, writing flows much better

they call this Raja Yoga? hm

Raja means King.... and you will feel like a King

Is the other worth it?

I'd say look for a meaningful relationship, look for a woman you would consider as a wife/ mother.

It is a special energy, you want to share with a special person.

Or to be used for pro creation / strong healthy, vital children

You may be interested in

Karezza is a gentle, affectionate form of intercourse in which orgasm is not the goal, and ideally does not occur in either partner while making love. Karezza gained its name from Alice Bunker Stockham, MD at the end of the nineteenth century. She based the name on the Italian word carezza, meaning “caress.”

http://www.reuniting.info/wisdom/what_is_karezza

Edited October 8, 2013 by White Wolf Running On Air

[ganjaboy]

Over 50 days in now, and my mental attitude has changed completely. I am now an animal that is in a primal mindset; though I have human understanding and reasoning, I am coming to terms with the reality that if I want a partner for intimate companionship, I must prove myself worthy of this attraction and face the competition. Naked reality is staring me in the face; I can view myself objectively. Complete celibacy has granted me introspection and a definitive, though often harsh, view of reality. I am shooting for 100 days, though to be quite honest, perhaps I should just be brave and go for a full 1000. Who knows what transformations might occur in that time, what refinements and insights might occur in character, and what means I find for channeling the jing and sublimating it to chi energy.

 

I now finally understand the connection between celibacy, jing, and willpower. It is by no means easy, and more brutal and challenging to the soul and will than I ever could have imagined.

 

It isn't just about being celibate, it's about becoming the man that I want to be. The willpower from the conserved jing is what I am using to do that.

 

Thoughts?

[effilang]

A paraphrase from Taoist Yoga:

 

Through conserving or stopping sexual activity, after 100 days of determination ancient Hou Tian Xiu Taoists established that the Jing could be strengthened and 64 points of positive Yang principle could be restored to the body. Now 5 Yin and 1 Yang

After 200 days another positive Yang principle was restored. Now 4 Yin and 2 Yang.

After 300 days another positive Yang principle was restored. Now 3 Yin and 3 Yang and sight and hearing was replenished

After 400 days another positive Yang principle was restored. Now 2 Yin and 4 Yang and, white hair turned black again.

After 500 days another another positive Yang principle was restored. Now 1 Yin and 5 Yang.

After 600 days another positive Yang principle was restored. Now 0 Yin and 6 Yang.

Thus after 600 days of celibacy of the mind and body, Hou Tian Xiu practitioners could return their bodies to the vigor of the 16 year old bearing the 6 Yang principles and 384 points of vitality.

 

From Thread: http://thetaobums.com/topic/32089-hou-tian-vs-xian-tian-xiao-yao-pai/?p=485064

[ganjaboy]

A paraphrase from Taoist Yoga:

 

 

From Thread: http://thetaobums.com/topic/32089-hou-tian-vs-xian-tian-xiao-yao-pai/?p=485064

The more I think about it, and the longer I cultivate, the more this makes sense to me. I am starting to sense a certain freshness and magic to sexuality and sexual energy which i have not experienced since I was around 16! It makes me what to cultivate and protect this untouched nature, not get into a meaningless one-night stand or just jerk off incessantly.

 

i am shooting for 1000 days.....if not longer (i.e. until i have find a very, very meaningful partner).

 

I have questions, however, which I feel that i perhaps truly need a spiritual teacher to answer, but maybe i can find some answers here. i am a musician and artist, and so i am much more in-tuned with the vital joy and chi energy that runs through life. i feel that in the past, i have felt this vital energy while creating music, or while experiencing a sexual fantasy, which leads me to believe that having sex itself would be another manifestation. is it correct that activities such as making music/art, or even making love, are both celebrations of chi or the human condition?

 

there are times that i experience profound physical longing and lust, for the carnal pleasure of sexuality itself. sometimes i experience guilt for this, and i am cognizant of the chi and jing energy loss which can occur through a sexual experience. this is why i only want to give myself to a partner i care truly about. Buddhism teaches that feelings should not be denied and we should not feel guilty about them. does this mean that my fantasies are not "bad", as long as i fulfill them in the proper time and place, with someone i care about, and remain aware of the energy usage?

 

FYI, i have found that energetic things such as performing music or experiencing creative joy can combat lustful thoughts....while i am still celibate.

 

thanks for answering my questions. peace and love,

 

dhiggs

[Kasuku]

What are you doing to sublimate it? imo you have to breathe to your dantian and empty your mind constantly so you can find your true self... purify your mind to purify your chi to see your ling...

 

When i get confused i just try to picture my self as a newborn - pure, knows nothing, contended, deals with no names, doesn't know the self or others, and only uses sincere true feeling to communicate

every time you think 'I' you loose your true self and experience a delusion - be empty so you can see the light (ling) of your true self

 

the reason why u had a headache when the chi entered ur brain was because your jing was not pure (corrupted by false heart) - if its the positive vitality you wont get a headache and u'll feel bliss in your heart...

 

fantasies are sprung by artificial conditionings and mortal karma for lifetimes... do away with all of them - they'll only lead to suffering (does a baby have fantasies?? no because he's perfectly contended and one with his true self)

[ganjaboy]

i have two conflicting notions here.

 

on one hand, the longer i conserve jing, the less desire i have for physical release. i am falling in love with the energy and the glowing feeling of fullness itself. i feel that i could be with a partner and bask in the energy, i.e. Tantra, without having to ravish her like a wild animal just to release the essence.

 

but yet, there are times when i experience overpowering sexual desire, unspecific to a particular woman, with the exception of her whose body i find appealing.

 

what can i do about this??? two months since release of jing, and i am going crazy with the denial/deprivation of all physical pleasure, yet i do not wish to be a heartless soulless creature. how can i find a middle path that balances physical pleasure with spiritual fulfillment???? i am desperate for answers!

 

it is as if this jing is the most powerful substance...yet...one little squirt and its all over...

Edited October 16, 2013 by dhiggs

[ganjaboy]

bump!!!

[yabyum24]

I get where you are coming from dhiggs and the contradiction you feel between sexual desire and your wish to conserve your essence. I've never managed celibacy for any significant length of time but I have experienced all you report and I understand your quandary.

 

I've studied Buddhist tantra and, yes it does offer a means to transmute the essence into higher awareness and powerful internal bliss, which does not involve release, or even the reflex of it.

 

The problem is, and it's a massive one, is finding a suitable partner to work with. There are three stages; 1. Being in the company of the lady - exchanging glances, smiles etc. This is similar to what you have already experienced and are doing (to some extent) with the women around you.

2. Physical touch. This is more intimate and more compelling.

3. Sexual union. The closest contact possible and toughest challenge of all.

 

There can never be success with a partner who is not doing it for the same reasons as yourself, as the determination to succeed has to be warrior-like on both sides. If you have sex with an "ordinary" lady, then she will enjoy it like ordinary sex and her abandon and enjoyment will be overpowering and compelling. In other words, you can forget retaining anything and even if you do, there will be no spiritual benefit from the encounter - at most, a stud-like pride in your performance. (Big deal!)

 

So, for most people tantra will never be the answer to this problem. There's a ton of stuff out there about it, most of which is just 'false dawn' material. Unless you are in the inner circle of a qualified guru who looks after his followers, you can pretty much forget it.

 

You may have more luck with Taoist sexual teachings, but as I know nothing of these, I can't offer any help.

Edited October 16, 2013 by yabyum24

[ganjaboy]

I get where you are coming from dhiggs and the contradiction you feel between sexual desire and your wish to conserve your essence. I've never managed celibacy for any significant length of time but I have experienced all you report and I understand your quandary.

 

I've studied Buddhist tantra and, yes it does offer a means to transmute the essence into higher awareness and powerful internal bliss, which does not involve release, or even the reflex of it.

 

The problem is, and it's a massive one, is finding a suitable partner to work with. There are three stages; 1. Being in the company of the lady - exchanging glances, smiles etc. This is similar to what you have already experienced and are doing (to some extent) with the women around you.

2. Physical touch. This is more intimate and more compelling.

3. Sexual union. The closest contact possible and toughest challenge of all.

 

There can never be success with a partner who is not doing it for the same reasons as yourself, as the determination to succeed has to be warrior-like on both sides. If you have sex with an "ordinary" lady, then she will enjoy it like ordinary sex and her abandon and enjoyment will be overpowering and compelling. In other words, you can forget retaining anything and even if you do, there will be no spiritual benefit from the encounter - at most, a stud-like pride in your performance. (Big deal!)

 

So, for most people tantra will never be the answer to this problem. There's a ton of stuff out there about it, most of which is just 'false dawn' material. Unless you are in the inner circle of a qualified guru who looks after his followers, you can pretty much forget it.

 

You may have more luck with Taoist sexual teachings, but as I know nothing of these, I can't offer any help.

[Warning: somewhat mature material below (like this whole thread hasn't been, lol), but definitely not for the kiddies if any are near your screen.]

 

Thanks for your help. Granted, I will not be utilizing these teachings in the short term, as I am planning on being celibate for 1000 days. After 1000 days, and the jing energies are restored, I am going to begin careful, gentle work on the physical mechanics of a theoretical encounter, i.e. just making sure that I can last long enough with stimulation, breathing, also practicing microcosmic orbit, etc. This 1000 days is just a "base" that I am building to get the energies hot enough.

 

Also, what I had in mind is more similar to coitus reservatus than karezza, though it involves elements of that and Tantra. To give my partner loving pleasure while not losing essence myself would be the goal, though easier said than done lol. One of the more successful methods I have heard of involves the Yab-Yum embrace, with gentle rocking during penetration for 20 minutes or whatever until the lady has had her pleasure. The important differentiation here though is that I want to enjoy the experience more spiritually than physically.

[yabyum24]

One of the more successful methods I have heard of involves the Yab-Yum embrace, with gentle rocking during penetration for 20 minutes or whatever until the lady has had her pleasure. The important differentiation here though is that I want to enjoy the experience more spiritually than physically.

I think you have the right motivation with the wish for more spirituality, but I guess it comes down to what you are hoping to achieve by doing it. I wish you success in all cases, though you probably have next to no chance if you are a virgin. The key thing is not to give up if you blow it.

 

I forgot to mention before that there is another possibility. There are four kinds of mudras (or consorts).

 

The four types of Karmamudrās

• Karma Mudrā A maiden possessing the physical attributes of a woman, for dull yogis.
• Jñāna Mudrā A maiden created through the power of one's visualization, for middling yogis.
• Mahā Mudrā The images within one's own mind spontaneously arise as various consorts, for sharp yogis.
• Samaya Mudrā The mudra experienced as a result of accomplishing the former three.
• These are usually termed the 'four handseals' with only the last one called mahamudra. There are various lists, usually some combination of the following: Action Mudra (Karmamudra), Wisdom Mudra (Jnanamudra), Phenomena Mudra (Dharmamudra), Pledge Mudra (Samayamudra), and Great Mudra (Mahamudra). Action mudra is a woman, phenomena mudra is all appearance, commitment or pledge mudra is tummo, wisdom mudra is the meditation deity, and non-duality is the great mudra.

From here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Yogas_of_Naropa#The_four_types_of_Karmamudr.C4.81s

 

You may find that you are able to transmute the demon ladies of your dreams into consorts and practice within the dream state. This is just as powerful (if not more so) than actual physical union, as it is unconstrained. This is how tantrics can utilize the "poison" and create divine nectar from it.

 

The manifested females are reflections of your anima shakti. She is deathless and always beautiful, you left her behind at the gates of the womb. You seek the shards of her reflection in every woman you will ever meet.

[ganjaboy]

I think you have the right motivation with the wish for more spirituality, but I guess it comes down to what you are hoping to achieve by doing it. I wish you success in all cases, though you probably have next to no chance if you are a virgin. The key thing is not to give up if you blow it.

 

I forgot to mention before that there is another possibility. There are four kinds of mudras (or consorts).

 

 

From here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Yogas_of_Naropa#The_four_types_of_Karmamudr.C4.81s

 

You may find that you are able to transmute the demon ladies of your dreams into consorts and practice within the dream state. This is just as powerful (if not more so) than actual physical union, as it is unconstrained. This is how tantrics can utilize the "poison" and create divine nectar from it.

 

The manifested females are reflections of your anima shakti. She is deathless and always beautiful, you left her behind at the gates of the womb. You seek the shards of her reflection in every woman you will ever meet.

 

Regarding the statement I put in red: so you believe that remaining a virgin due to some sanctimonious precept about the status may actually stunt my spiritual development? I have received various schools of thought on this. I am almost 20 yrs old; some tell me to preserve the innocent state, others tell me to enter the real world-and test the waters.

 

The shakti of my dreams I cannot trust until I have learned how to sublimate it such that it does not end in energy loss. Though my goal is never to destroy the essence, I am a human with earthly desire, and I wonder sometimes if it is just plain unnatural to deny these completely lol. The key is remaining conscious and careful of your jing, shen, and qi stores, and not just letting your energies go cheaply.

 

I would have to find an action-shakti in real life who understood my goals and spiritual path. She could help kindle my internal fire, and perhaps I could hers. What are your views on this?

Edited October 16, 2013 by dhiggs

[yabyum24]

I wouldn't know what to say about preserving/losing it or whether you feel sanctimonious about it. I guess only you can call that shot. I don't pass judgement on that point. What I was trying to say was that in the event you find yourself in bed for the first time with a pretty girl, events will take their own course. Whatever spiritual ideas you may have beforehand, they will probably be annihilated by the sheer awesomeness of her physical presence.

 

Don't be surprised by it.

 

On finding a real-life shakti? Brilliant if you can.

 

Your age has another advantage, according to tantra. The energy of your subtle body is strong and replenishes quickly. It's what makes you hyper-sensitive to females. So, if you want a real life consort, you'd better start seriously searching and good luck with it.

 

Don't disregard what's going on in your dreams though. Where there is a will, there is a way.

Edited October 16, 2013 by yabyum24

[ganjaboy]

I wouldn't know what to say about preserving/losing it or whether you feel sanctimonious about it. I guess only you can call that shot. I don't pass judgement on that point. What I was trying to say was that in the event you find yourself in bed for the first time with a pretty girl, events will take their own course. Whatever spiritual ideas you may have beforehand, they will probably be annihilated by the sheer awesomeness of her physical presence.

 

Don't be surprised by it.

 

On finding a real-life shakti? Brilliant if you can.

 

Your age has another advantage, according to tantra. The energy of your subtle body is strong and replenishes quickly. It's what makes you hyper-sensitive to females. So, if you want a real life consort, you'd better start seriously searching and good luck with it.

 

Don't disregard what's going on in your dreams though. Where there is a will, there is a way.

thanks. can you differentiate a "consort" from the aforementioned "pretty girl"? I am seeking one who is conscious of my (and her) energies, and knows where i am coming from on my personal cultivation. would this be a shakti? peace and thank you

Edited October 16, 2013 by dhiggs

[yabyum24]

thanks. can you differentiate a "consort" from the aforementioned "pretty girl"? I am seeking one who is conscious of my (and her) energies, and knows where i am coming from on my personal cultivation. would this be a shakti? peace and thank you

That's the question. Who knows?

Namaste

[ganjaboy]

That's the question. Who knows?

Namaste

haha, cryptic. you are using the confucian method of answering questions, that is, to ask another question

 

what i do NOT want is just what you said, the average pretty-girl who will steal my energy...if i seek a cultivation partner, she should be able to get something from me, but also me from her. do you agree?

 

this shakti/goddess is one whom i will give to, but she must also accept that i desire to receive the gift of energies and fullness of shen from her.

Edited October 16, 2013 by dhiggs

[yabyum24]

haha, cryptic. you are using the confucian method of answering questions, that is, to ask another question

 

what i do NOT want is just what you said, the average pretty-girl who will steal my energy...if i seek a cultivation partner, she should be able to get something from me, but also me from her. do you agree?

 

this shakti/goddess is one whom i will give to, but she must also accept that i desire to receive the gift of energies and fullness of shen from her.

Ideal if you can find her.

[Jonas]

In answer to the op you are totally on the right path. Preserving Jing and transform it trough meditation is the simple path that will take you home.

Also to be with a woman that balances you is right. I am not surprised that many qigong-masters are married and have family. There are absolutely no contradiction and totally normal.

Mans energy are mainly like a line |. Womens are mainly O. If you cross a movement along a line with a circular one you get the C (Spiral). Just I makes no energy-consciousness-space, just O also not. But the spiral is energy in movement and creates light-consciousness-space, creative room. Whole universe is built on that. All particles rotates and they rotates along lines of other rotations. The cosmic dance. The planets creates our space-time-matter by spiraling movements.

 

This could mean exchanging energy just by being near eachother (man / woman).

 

Alternatively you cultivate your own yin/yang poles in yourself in meditation / celibacy. Or making both work with the right mate. If your partner is not in your phase he / she will benefit and learn and eventually catch up.

 

Wrong partner will drain, right will make you happy, shining. Also ordinary couples that don't cultivate consciously have the "couples happiness" that shines in them and make them strong as long as they keep their hearths faith.

 

"Space of polarity" (From Mantak Chia - Taoist secrets of Love).

 

Ancient Egypt (Akenathen Epoch)

 

 

Selfcultivation (celibacy) of own yin / yang poles by meditation alchemical mixing:

 

However to use sex as an excuse to "lighten your pressure" and squander your lifeforce is self-destructive. Anyway this path is practiced by 95% of population so its totally mainstream and not a very interesting one.