Qigong masters sharing their views of Meridians

[MIchael80]

Hi Spotless!

 

Since you have so much openings and mergings i have a question: has you physical body de-aged or rejuvanated(at least a little)?

 

Just ask because one sometimes hears that one will look much younger and live much longer when the energy system is that developed.

 

best

[Spotless]

7 hours ago, MIchael80 said:

Hi Spotless!

 

Since you have so much openings and mergings i have a question: has you physical body de-aged or rejuvanated(at least a little)?

 

Just ask because one sometimes hears that one will look much younger and live much longer when the energy system is that developed.

 

best

It is hard to tell in a way but here is the evidence:

 

i feel much much better than ten years ago, it think my skin is smoother and my eyesight is better.

I am 62 

I have been going through many changes with at least several major changes every month. it is the reason it seems hard to tell - that is perhaps also evidence. 

 

I was looking at this this morning, my life situation has been in flux for nearly five years - we moved from a home onto a boat, I have been completely refitting the boat - a complete and major rehab of the entire boat, so we have been living and working in an on-the-water boat yard. My wife went to 1/2 salary and went back to University for two more Master degrees, we have a son that just turned ten today, my mother is 100 and that has required considerable dealings and I practically dropped my business while dong Qi Gong frequently and needing lots of just sitting time to adjust to all the big changes. We have been pouring money and time into this large project for a year and a half and University for 3 and it has drained all reserve - yet somehow in all of this I have never been so relaxed - obviously it is because of Awakening - I don't go into futures - but it is interesting to experience settling into Awakening during such flux, both inside and outside. It has not been stressful for me but it has been very stressful for my wife though she is grounded like a tanker.

 

Today is a good example of some things:

I was Awake through the night and felt very tired this morning - but had to get up for my son's birthday before he went off to school. It was fun but I kept looking like I was dosing off - I wanted to close my eyes and did occasionally. Then I want back to bed for a time and finally got up and said hello to my wife and a workman in my robe then sat down and was still wanting to close my eyes so I did - and I realized I felt absolutely incredible and was in another rediculous and wonderful expansion.

 

It started yesterday and it has not stopped but instead of a "minor" expansion this is a vary large one - the type that puts on hold what has been put on the schedule (in this case some shipments I need to ship).

 

i have to make room to just lay back somewhat when this happens - it is part of settling but now more of the expansion.

 

Everything is far more subtle that it may come across here in what I am writing and in what others have written:

The incredible feelings and changes do not feel like attainments - it is much more like a log in the river has been dissolved. What will come of it is not immediately known, then things seep in here and there.

 

When the tubular columns dissolved into one - until they dissolved into one I was not aware of the "joints" and constrictions.

When my lower and middle dantiens became large and luminous and bulbous it was fascinating to look at and feel - but then they gently released into a wonderful upward release into the upper dantien and elsewhere - I did not know what was about to happen - I was happy to see and be with the beautiful bulbous bouncing LDT and MDT - my head space already felt very nice and light.

 

One becomes used to it all but not quite - something comes up and suddenly a beautiful golden light pervades - or it might happen in a line for coffee that suddenly I feel this big "hat" atop my head. Visions enter here and there - I see my friends son getting a hair cut - a major cut to very short hair - the next day he comes by sporting a very short hair cut. I know if a letter must go off "next day" in order to circumvent problems or if thieves have attention on our location - this last stuff I have had for years but it is all much much larger in scope - I have no idea how much larger.

 

The Heart expansions perhaps effect what you have asked about - stress is dropped in no futures and no past and in Presence.

but as Heart expands this current of beauty is seen and this expands.

 

Gratitude is sometimes nearly overwhelming - it can stop me in my tracks and I have to sit or pull over if I am driving.

 

Many years ago a very tangible clairvoyance developed along with many other abilities such as clairsentience, clairaudience, etc...  Many Heart openings and lots of healing and "seeing" work in those areas back then. This of the last five years has dwarfed all of that - it has dwarfed it by no small margin.

 

I have been settling in those things for 40 years - but in the rough surface waters. This Now is lightyears fast - no time - no space - constant.

 

 

Edited June 5, 2017 by Spotless

[Fate]

Great thread, I also am priveleged to be one of Michael's students and he's said almost word for word the quote about "with practice, the entire body becomes like a Dan Tian"

 

Great affirmation to keep on the path I have chosen, and stop being enticed by other paths and side tracks (which this forum can be full of, so many valid paths to center!)

[Brian]

On ‎9‎/‎20‎/‎2013 at 10:50 PM, Brian said:

I know, but I also enjoy his company in the flesh. Hard for me to imagine (yet) quaffing a craft brew with an immortal...

 

I'm still new at this, remember?

I'm still new at this, FWIW.

[Spotless]

I wanted to note that in my Qi Gong practice no directing of energy is done - zero.

I do not and have not imagined my micro cosmic orbit - only once or twice did i trace it out in my awareness but not once did i direct flow or engineer the process.

 

I have only imagined breathing into the LDT - and I learned this over 40 years ago in Yoga - imagining the energy of the breath going into the abdomen - it took little to imagine it going into the LDT.

 

At a certain point in practice it is necessary to understand the general view of what may and may not take place:

 

These energies are not just a matter of moving along from one opening to the next - it is in Not understanding this that quite a few people go sideways and not infrequently into the nuthouse. This is an organic process - it cannot be sped up.

 

I have often stressed the idea of reaching neutrality - at least an understanding of trying to reach it - their are a great many aspects of "personality" which cannot deal with these energies and so these energies cannot and will not develop - they may reach a certain level but beyond which deviations occur - in other words psychotic energies and others.

 

[Spotless]

As you progress - simply progress - don't try to pin it down and sort it out. This is one of the unfortunate side effects of too much reading and not enough practice. With lots of practice come many things - and ALSO many things come again and again and again and again - you come to see that what you once took as attainment was just the tip of the Ocean.

 

Many start to write books, teach and lecture - nearly as many have no real clue what they are talking about. They may even be "correct" but not understand what they are saying (often the case for the very well read).

[Spotless]

What has come to pass for me in Qi Gong happened without knowing that it would happen. As things unfolded I would have to have a translator tell the master. It was a great validation of the teaching for the student translating because he was either aware these things were expected or the master told him they were - but to see it related by me who had no prior knowledge of the markers of unfolding was very exciting for him. 

 

It is also something to note that here early on in the this post it was very exciting to me to see the quotes from other teachers that used language that was what I had already verbalized - such as "tubes" - it is an apt word and one I had already used prior to seeing it here. It was also mentioned that in one case the energy line was drawn with spaces (to represent what is a sort of alternating current) and that this goes away - I was aware of this but to see it in print somewhere was good to see as it is a very  fine detail.

 

I have nothing per se against writing about things we learn - in my prior post what I was alluding to is that we will supersede what we attain so often that the process of growth is often stifled by trying to pin down what we think has just happened. Also reading and studying is a great thing - and taking it all in with beginners mind is of great importance - you must understand you do not "know" something just because you have read it and can recite it. An arsenal of quotes can be a very real hindrance if it becomes your attaching mechanism to your progress.

 

I was once quite the hotshot psychic / healer - I worked at it not going to my head and was pretty humble about it - but I could do a lot of the fancy stuff with ease and so enjoyed a reputation of sorts.  I was doing long distance healing, readings - many "blind" meaning that I had nothing to go on but a name. I could do it all with no effort, no fear. Time and distance were no object, thoughtform travel and auric sight were simple everyday things. Futures, akaishic records, telepathy - the list is lengthy. 

 

Today all of these things have been long dwarfed but I see in others the arrival of the old milestones and see what I once arrived at and how so many of my friends are at rest there - 30 years later - in those abilities. Nothing wrong with this - they are very capable - the point is that closing the book on any attainments you think you have attained is unnecessary and premature. When you are of the frame of mind that you "know it" try to hear the click of the key - it is the sound of locking yourself into a frequency.

 

At the same time - having certainty is also a great asset - in fact it is a key virtue. So examine "certainty" - prideful certainty is a hindrance but there is a certainty built in Presence that rests in what the Universe has provided and in the Knowing that there is more of it always at hand when you are ready for it.

 

It is also interesting to note that Awakening changes nothing regarding these abilities - some of them will suddenly jump up but they will tend to be of the same initial levels as mentioned above - very cool and sometimes quite wide ranging - but still very new and unfamiliar. One can more quickly become somewhat adept - but just as often make soft assumptions or subtle relinquishing of beginners mind. 

[Mudfoot]

On 2017-06-04 at 8:59 AM, Spotless said:

 

There is the middle channel - like a pole - axis.

The micro-cosmic channels, 4 side channels, 

four side channels? 

Two on each side of the middle channel? 

Usually only one on each side are mentioned, but some sources place them closer to the midline and some place them more to the sides. 

 

But this would explain some sensations... 

[Spotless]

Every major channel "has" at least two side channels.

Some are simply associated with them but not technically part of them and some are Nadi channels and some are in fact part and parcel to the set.

 

Up the spine their is the core and a front and back channel and two side channels - as well as several nadi channels.

 

Up the front channel - and this is complicated in its definition - but it has a major magnetic flow - two strongly influenced and influencing near side channels and two channels well off to the sides. Both are technically leg related but significant energy bifurcates from the LDT at a certain point and the channels become one in a sense - is whole of the bodies become one but it is possible to see the movements somewhat in isolation.

 

Walking becomes walking on the magnetic energy - and everything is connected - the air is a part of you - the earth is a part of you - resistance dissolves - heat and humidity generally pose no point of resistance to the point that you may be considerably unaware that it is hot or cold.

Edited July 27, 2017 by Spotless

[Spotless]

When you breath in the air and energy they move clearly through the ear channels and also into/through the eyes - you will feel a coolness inside the eyes and all the way through the optic nerve.

 

The front channel has origination in the LDT from the standpoint of the magnetic body and is differentiated from the Taijji pole - it is more forward though by the MDT it is a more complex relationship.

 

Between every joint and bone component is a distinct chakram- these become somewhat coolish or light and energized. 

Typically a clearish blue when healthy and energized.

 

The energy fields extend out many yards above and below - not quite as far front to back.

 

 

[Gerard]

I found this article by accident which is very concise but also very well-written:

 

Qi?There's no such a thing!

 

http://english.willempinksterboer.com/qi-theres-thing/

 

Best!

[gendao]

And some recent scientific studies also corroborate acupuncture points from a materialistic POV, too:

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CT Scans Capture Acupuncture Point Discovery

15 January 2015

CT scan imaging reveals unique anatomical structures of acupuncture points. Published in Biomedical Engineering and Informatics, researchers used in-line phase contrast CT imaging with synchrotron radiation to capture images of acupuncture points. They compared non-acupuncture point locations with real Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) acupuncture points. The CT scans reveal unique distinctions between the non-acupuncture points and acupuncture point structures.

State-of-the-art synchrotron radiation CT techniques allowed for improved soft tissue imaging and a larger field of view. The CT technological breakthrough led to the discovery of unique acupuncture point characteristics. A detailed look at acupuncture point ST37 (Shangjuxu) reveals a concentrated number of involuted microvascular structures. Non-acupuncture points lacked the dense concentration of microvascular vessels and involuted structures found in acupoints.

The researchers note that the in-line imaging techniques employed in the study improved the light path, enhanced the field of view and eliminated artifacts. The technological advancement allowed for a new look at the microstructures at ST37 and other points. The researchers note that acupuncture points have small microvascular structures and their bifurcations “can be clearly seen around the thick blood vessels.” In addition, acupuncture points demonstrate a dense number of fine microvascular structures. On the other hand, non-acupuncture points show thick blood vessels absent the unique, fine structures found in true acupuncture points. The researchers conclude, “Our results demonstrated again the existence of acupoints, and also show that the acupoints are special points in mammals.”

In a prior study published in the Journal of Electron Spectroscopy and Related Phenomena, the research team used in-line phase contrast CT imaging with synchrotron radiation on both non-acupuncture points and acupuncture points and made similar discoveries. The CT scans revealed clear distinctions between the non-acupuncture point and acupuncture point anatomical structures.

In an identical finding, acupuncture points had a higher density of micro-vessels and contained a large amount of involuted microvascular structures. The non-acupuncture points did not exhibit these properties. Similarly, the researchers noted that the advanced CT imaging techniques allowed for improved three-dimensional (3D) imaging of a large field of view without artifacts and enhanced soft tissue visualization.

Acupuncture points ST36 (Zusanli) and ST37 (Shangjuxu) demonstrated very distinct structural differences from surrounding areas. At the acupuncture points, microvascular densities with bifurcations “can be clearly seen around thick blood vessels” but non-acupuncture point areas showed few thick blood vessels and none showed fine, high density structures. The acupuncture points contained fine structures with more large blood vessels that are several dozen micrometers in size plus beds of high density vascularization of vessels 15 - 50 micrometers in size. This structure was not found in non-acupuncture point areas. 

The researchers note that the size of an acupuncture point “can be estimated by the diameter of microvascular aggregations….” They also commented that other research has found unique structures of acupuncture points and acupuncture meridians using MRI (magnetic resonance imaging), infrared imaging, LCD thermal photography, ultrasound and other CT imaging methods. The researchers commented that many studies using these technological approaches have already shown that acupuncture points exist. They note that “the high brightness, wide spectrum, high collimation, polarization and pulsed structure of synchrotron radiation” facilitated their discovery.

In another interesting study, researchers used an amperometric oxygen microsensor to detect partial oxygen pressure variations at different locations on the anterior aspect of the wrist. The researchers concluded that partial oxygen pressure is significantly higher at acupuncture points. Below are images from the study measuring the increase of partial oxygen pressure combined with an overlay of the local acupuncture point locations. The images map the Lung, Pericardium and Heart channels and their associated local points. Acupuncture points P7 and P6 clearly show high oxygen pressure levels as do the other acupuncture points in the region.

These measurements are not needled points but are natural resting states of acupuncture points absent stimulation. A truly unique finding, acupuncture points exhibit special oxygen characteristics. Acupuncture points and acupuncture channels are scientifically measurable phenomena in repeated experiments. 

In related research, researchers have discovered an anatomical structure unique to acupuncture points. Wang, et. al., have identified a “vessel-like structure” made of “calcitonin gene related peptide (CGRP)-positive neurofibers in local tissues” at acupuncture points. The researchers discovered that “CGRP-positive nerve fibers were found to distribute in the dermis and subcutaneous layers of local tissues of acupoint ST 44, ST 36 and ST 32, mainly concentrating around the vessel-like structure.” They add, “CGRP-positive neurofibers are an important element in the local tissues of acupoint ST 44, ST 36 and ST 32 regions….” Miyauchi, et. al., note, “The calcitonin gene-related peptide (CGRP) plays important roles as a neurotransmitter/neuromodulator in the central nervous system, and as a potent vasodilator when secreted from peripheral, perivascular nerves through its specific receptors.” Wang, et. al,. used a laser confocal microscope to make the discovery of CGRP positive nerve fibers at acupuncture points.

CGRP is a type of neurotransmitter. Nerve fibers that are positive for the presence of CGRP play several roles in human physiology. For example, Hara-Irie, et. al., note that “CGRP-positive nerve fibers could be a crucial element in bone metabolism during bone growth and development.” Kunst, et. al., from the Yale School of Medicine (New Haven, Connecticut) note that CGRP is “a wake-promoting neuropeptide that regulates sleep maintenance at night.” Evans, et. al., from the University of Miami School of Medicine (Miami, Florida) note that CGRP is “a potent vasodilator neuropeptide.” The density of nerve fibers containing CGRP located at acupuncture points may correlate to the ability of acupuncture to stimulate signal conduction and induce health benefits.

Hongbao Ma of the Department of Medicine, Michigan State University (East Lansing) notes, “Calcitonin gene-related peptide (CGRP) is a 37 amino acid vasoactive neuropeptide that is widely distributed in central and peripheral nervous systems in mammals. CGRP was discovered in 1982 by molecular cloning of calcitonin (CT) gene.” Ma adds, “CGRP is secreted by primary afferents and causes primary hyperalgesia, and its expression increases in (the) dorsal horn under sensitization conditions. CGRP plays (an) important role in blood pressure system.” Given the discovery of CGRP in 1982, it is not unusual that the vessel-like physical structures of CGRP associated with acupuncture points have only recently been discovered.

Russell, et. al. note, “CGRP is a highly potent vasodilator and, partly as a consequence, possesses protective mechanisms that are important for physiological and pathological conditions involving the cardiovascular system and wound healing. CGRP is primarily released from sensory nerves and thus is implicated in pain pathways. The proven ability of CGRP antagonists to alleviate migraine has been of most interest in terms of drug development, and knowledge to date concerning this potential therapeutic area is discussed.”

Ling Zhao et. al., conclude that acupuncture is effective in the treatment of migraines and reduces pain intensity levels. Zhou et. al., find acupuncture effective in the prevention of migraines and links acupuncture’s therapeutic benefits to its ability to stimulate MLCK expression. The expression of myosin light-chain kinase (MLCK) is involved in the regulation of smooth muscle contraction. The researchers document a correlation between acute migraine attacks and decreases of MLCK via the CGRP signal system. The researchers discovered that applying acupuncture to acupoint GB20 (Fengchi) successfully upregulates MLCK expression and has “preventative and curative” effects for migraine patients.

In another investigation, Morry Silberstein, et. al., conclude that acupuncture points are related to both unmyelinated and myelinated afferent nerve fibers in a unique neuroanatomical structure not found in other areas of the body. The researchers used light microscopy on silver stained sections of acupuncture point P6 (silver stained human cadaver sample) and used confocal light microscopy on a live subject for acupuncture points GB20 and SP6. Control sites were compared with the acupuncture points.

At acupuncture points, it was discovered that a nerve bundle extended to the dermal-epidermal junctions. Each bundle branched into 2 sections perpendicular to each other. This anatomical phenomenon was not observed at the control sites. The researchers concluded that this acupoint neuroanatomical finding suggests that, “acupuncture may incise afferent unmyelinated axonal branch points, disrupting both neural transmission to the spinal cord and crosstalk along meridians, while simultaneously stimulating larger, myelinated afferents, thus explaining both the immediate and long-lasting effects of acupuncture.”

Would have been cooler if they actually included some photos of all these acupoint microstructures, though!

Edited July 27, 2017 by gendao

[Vovi]

Accoding to Xiang Gong Grandmaster Tian Ruisheng the entire human body is Dan Tian. 

Edited September 25, 2017 by Vovi
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[Jessup2]

On 7/27/2017 at 7:12 AM, gendao said:

And some recent scientific studies also corroborate acupuncture points from a materialistic POV, too:

Would have been cooler if they actually included some photos of all these acupoint microstructures, though!

 

Here are some reconstructions:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0368204813002405

 

http://www.healthcmi.com/Acupuncture-Continuing-Education-News/1468-acupuncture-point-microstructure-discovery

 

http://www.universe-review.ca/R10-11-acupuncture.htm

 

 

Edited December 27, 2017 by Jessup2

[vonkrankenhaus]

Consider that Qi is not a thing, and that is why Qi is never physically found or measured.

 

Qi is movement, derived from polarity.

 

No polarity means no Qi (this is impossible in nature).

 

Same way, they will not find physical "channels".

 

Qi is the relative potentials of YinYang at any given point in any spectrum of energy or matter.

 

This is why there are so many "kinds" of Qi.

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[Jessup2]

I feel that many times, there are physical relationships, or similar structures, or reflections, of that which has been considered invisible or hard to explain. Since these are interesting new science discoveries of things as old as human beings, the dual channels that can be manipulated with the acupuncture needles are certainly already "science" in affect, but not yet understood with relation to the physical laws of nature. So it is a step closer to understanding, and in making possible measureable connections. Resistance is futile... lol.

Keeping it in the realm of the unknown, or as something that can never be known or measured, is stepping backwards to the flat world version, in my humble opinion. Qi is already showing a chirp wave measure when produced for healing. The next steps will follow soon. Such as how we produce a chirp wave, and the forces creating that wave, etc.

Soon science will make more interesting advances that will put much of the hocus pocus aspects of many belief systems to the test.

 

[vonkrankenhaus]

"Science" is there to justify a belief system also.

 

One that started around 500 BC.

 

It's an alpha-betic belief system.

 

It features "cause & effect" reasoning.

 

Accompanied by the religions of consciousness - the mono-theisms.

 

A system now being de-constructed by means of electronic media, mandatory autism, and so on.

 

While ancient systems actually STILL remaining unseen, un-cracked, and falsely debated.

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[yugenphoenix]

On 6/5/2017 at 5:55 PM, Spotless said:

I wanted to note that in my Qi Gong practice no directing of energy is done - zero.

I do not and have not imagined my micro cosmic orbit - only once or twice did i trace it out in my awareness but not once did i direct flow or engineer the process.

 

I have only imagined breathing into the LDT - and I learned this over 40 years ago in Yoga - imagining the energy of the breath going into the abdomen - it took little to imagine it going into the LDT.

Spotless,

I have found as well that this is just enough, and with chi kung opening my channels,  just sit back and let it flow.  But I read a lot (that's the problem there right? )  and also feel the "sexual sensations" build up and want to go to my tan tian and then I feel an opening below at huiyin when they seem "ready" and just want to flow down there and back to my spine.  My first question to you is how do you deal with the build up of sexual sensations?  Do you retain your Jing? I "conserve" but still emit at a level that seems to be right for my particular energetic character. But in between the feeling is there and builds up and if I take it to my tan tian and then downward, they seem to go away.  (changing Jing to chi?)  No only do I not emit my Jing away, I feel this helps my cultivation by conserving my Jing. Thank you sir for any insight you might be willing to provide.

Edited January 7, 2018 by yugenphoenix

[Spotless]

5 hours ago, yugenphoenix said:

Spotless,

I have found as well that this is just enough, and with chi kung opening my channels,  just sit back and let it flow.  But I read a lot (that's the problem there right? )  and also feel the "sexual sensations" build up and want to go to my tan tian and then I feel an opening below at huiyin when they seem "ready" and just want to flow down there and back to my spine.  My first question to you is how do you deal with the build up of sexual sensations?  Do you retain your Jing? I "conserve" but still emit at a level that seems to be right for my particular energetic character. But in between the feeling is there and builds up and if I take it to my tan tian and then downward, they seem to go away.  (changing Jing to chi?)  No only do I not emit my Jing away, I feel this helps my cultivation by conserving my Jing. Thank you sir for any insight you might be willing to provide.

In general I have not held back much - in fact for most of my practice over 45 years I would say  that I was more of the opposite until 2012.  I would sometimes dive deep into practice and might practice some control but generally it was not so much control as simply a part of the energy level - sex was not grabbing me (which usually it was).

 

I would definitely practice abstinence from time to time - but I was also a firm believer that sex is natural and good.

I never practiced abstinence in order to conserve Jing - i fairly skipped over that bit of advice/teaching.

I only ever practiced it from the standpoint of not indulging in the frequencies of it - or simply not indulging.

 

I do need to clarify the above:

When I am speaking about practive prior to 2012 it was primarily a Yoga practice as in meditation - lots of meditation.

I only really did lots of yoga with postures in the first few years. 

 

It was about 2012 when i started Qi Gong and it pretty much coincided with my Awakening. From that point on sex simply stopped. I was not abstaining or conserving but simply was not in those frequencies and nothing was pulling on "me".

 

It is possible that could change - I'm 63, have a 10 years old and still get hard in the morning when I have to pee.  Physical;y everything is fine. 

 

If one is not identified with or bent out of shape on some desirous levels, high sexual energy is not difficult but it certainly used to be a problem for me and I did not hold myself back much if I was in the throws of it.

 

It is still true for me/this body/ that conservation was a non issue - when it came to me to practice restraint - then i did. 

And just as abruptly if something came along that enticed me - i pretty much ended my abstinence.

 

I'm not sure if this was in any way helpful but I have never been a big advocate for conservation as an important factor with regard to Awakening or Enlightenment or developement along any of the lines that have been in my focus.

 

In my sphere conservation would come naturally when needed - sometimes by simple happenstance.

I always thought worrying about it was far worse.

 

Regarding some aspects of the experiences during Qi Gong - at one point it was like breathing through my penis, then the base of the main pole became very open - unfortunately much happened in this stage that was very fast - i was moving along very fast - I did take many notes so it may be written down somewhere .

 

Suffice it to say that in my circumstance greatly increased energies were not a problem - though just before Awakening my energies sputtered and kicked = it was very big energy cracking through and i was not sure what was happening. I was meditation 6-8 hours a day much of the time.

 

For a time it was a pretty rough go with everything from brain fog to bursting energy and extreme calm but with an undercurrent that was pushing. I had already dropped alcohol, coffee, meat, sex and other things - they fell away - no interest - they were downers and interference. This simply came to me as and became part of what was happening at the time.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 8, 2018 by Spotless

[yugenphoenix]

Spotless,

thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.  I am totally at a point based on feeling and advice from more advanced practitioners like you to just do the practice and really not focus or worry too much about things.  Like you said the dropping away of meat and alcohol and things.  Felt that happen to me too.  I used to drink a lot and eat meat predominantly it seemed but as I got "healthier" just lost an interest in eating meat (the alcohol was a struggle at first I had a problem but don't anymore thank god).  I was hopeless addicted to porn and masturbation as well and just the drive and desire for it and the emptiness of it just evaporated as my focus shifted higher i guess.  I most do standing meditation but have felt the desire to start sitting meditation but like all life find it hard to find quiet time in my busy schedule (have four girls 2, 6, 10, 12).  Again though I'm not worried just feel the beginnings of pull to do it and when its time I will have all kinds of time when they grow and start there own lives.  You are an inspiration to have achieved so much as a householder and not a yogi meditating in a snowy cave.  I think anything is possible if its meant for this time and incarnation.  Just want to thank you and let you know how much your posts on here are appreciated by me personally.  I have lurked on this forum since about 2010 but really only came out of the shadows after starting to finally establish a practice 2.5 years ago and now feel like I'm making some progress. Your posts have always kept the level of things here "serious" and informative. Thank you sir.

[Spotless]

1 hour ago, yugenphoenix said:

Spotless,

thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.  I am totally at a point based on feeling and advice from more advanced practitioners like you to just do the practice and really not focus or worry too much about things.  Like you said the dropping away of meat and alcohol and things.  Felt that happen to me too.  I used to drink a lot and eat meat predominantly it seemed but as I got "healthier" just lost an interest in eating meat (the alcohol was a struggle at first I had a problem but don't anymore thank god).  I was hopeless addicted to porn and masturbation as well and just the drive and desire for it and the emptiness of it just evaporated as my focus shifted higher i guess.  I most do standing meditation but have felt the desire to start sitting meditation but like all life find it hard to find quiet time in my busy schedule (have four girls 2, 6, 10, 12).  Again though I'm not worried just feel the beginnings of pull to do it and when its time I will have all kinds of time when they grow and start there own lives.  You are an inspiration to have achieved so much as a householder and not a yogi meditating in a snowy cave.  I think anything is possible if its meant for this time and incarnation.  Just want to thank you and let you know how much your posts on here are appreciated by me personally.  I have lurked on this forum since about 2010 but really only came out of the shadows after starting to finally establish a practice 2.5 years ago and now feel like I'm making some progress. Your posts have always kept the level of things here "serious" and informative. Thank you sir.

You have your hands full - what a blast! 

All the best!

 

By the way - even in the middle of it all you can awake at 3:30 am and do an hour of meditation and go back to sleep.

You will need less sleep and will awaken without the groggy energies most have in the morning.

 

It does not take too long to incorporate this and it will add massive patience.

[yugenphoenix]

On 1/8/2018 at 9:53 AM, Spotless said:

By the way - even in the middle of it all you can awake at 3:30 am and do an hour of meditation and go back to sleep.

You will need less sleep and will awaken without the groggy energies most have in the morning.

 I get up now at 0415 every morning just about and do about 90 minutes of chi kung and standing meditation. I only skip when I don't sleep well at night (which is rare these days, I used to suffer from constant insomnia, I found great sleep is another bonus side effect of the external exercise I do, running, weight lifting, calisthenics, etc. ). But the days I do miss I am truly less patience and l feel just "off," so great feedback to make this a daily practice to begin my day and something that helps me throughout all aspects of my life.  But thank you for the tip, always appreciated.

[Phoenix3]

On 31/10/2013 at 7:18 AM, Spotless said:

I am able to use internal vision, but I have not see anything written in this fashion before. I was particularly excited to see the comment at the end about the "dashed line" - it looks and feels exactly as described.

 

 

How does one go from a dashed line to a complete line?

[Phoenix3]

Does anyone know anything more about the qigong masters? Have they ever published anything?

[Spotless]

11 hours ago, Phoenix3 said:

 

How does one go from a dashed line to a complete line?

Could you refresh the reference and make your question clearer?