Are you enlightened?

[Daong]

[skydog]

haha

[Flolfolil]

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Edited March 6, 2015 by Flolfolil

[Cheshire Cat]

[Aetherous]

DAO rain TAO, what is that!?

 

I'm not enlightened according to my teacher's definition of the word.

[thelerner]

Once I lose ten more pounds I'll be enlightened.

Til then, smile and practice..

[Ish]

DAO rain TAO, what is that!?

 

I'm not enlightened according to my teacher's definition of the word.

 

Yeah holy crap was expecting it to jump out at any second

 

May i ask what your teacher's definition of enlightenment is?

 

On topic ; No i am not enlightened - much.

[Daong]

What do you mean by much?

Once I lose ten more pounds I'll be enlightened.

Til then, smile and practice..

 

Why are you so hard on yourself? You could just take off your clothes if you wanted to be lighter.

Or even take a dump, if your mission is to qualify as lighter, lol.

[skydog]

such a cool video.

Edited September 28, 2013 by skydog

[BaguaKicksAss]

Er, was that the goal? Crap.

 

Actually I have no interest in enlightenment whatsoever. I'm sure that sounds odd for this board, but it is just something which has never interested me personally. I practice cultivation for self improvement and connection with the divine, but not for enlightenment. I respect the folks who do though, and have met some very awesome people with this goal.

 

Or perhaps my po just haven't finished partying yet...

 

That is an awesome vid!

[fluidity]

Yes'n'No

Dropped into Nirvikalpa 2 years ago. Divine grace, believe me I did not really do anything but be my Self, just a random kid. It is only now that I am starting to comprehend the sheer depth of what the hell this means or implies, and to be brutally honest I still have no real idea. But it feels good! Well, both good and not-good and doubleplusgood and halfminusnotungood.

 

 

4 weeks into semen retention and this is what happens, seriously:

 

 

 

If anything what I learnt is the same old boring (is it! look around at the beauty!) thing: everyone is already enlightened. The Great Samadhi is one that nobody enters or exits because it is the abiding Samadhi.

 

Then there is also the fact of taking reins of the human form. This is another kind of Samadhi. You have to work to get into this one. Nirvikalpa does not change this. To get into this human Samadhi (i.e. total relaxation) means dissolution of all inner tension. Deep seated inner tension of all kinds. It's amazing how silent Silence is, it's more Silent than you think! Also, more Silent than you not-think! The only way I can point to it is that Silence is not lightness, but lighterness. Always go towards lighter, there is never light-est, only light-er.

 

Forget about enlightenment. Go for enlightenING. Do not be "purified", be purifyING. Always, ALWAYS. I can prove this in a way mathematically, there is a kind of derivative. The rate of change of purity of your I-AM, must be greater than or equal to 1. If you do this then at death you will have a Self, which is eternally in a state of purifying and hence escape the hell realm. If you do not, and you die encircled by impurity, prepare to shit bricks.

It feels that Nirvikalpa is doubtless awareness of the Great Samadhi. It changes nothing yet it changes everything. There is a kind of surety in my footsteps that was certainly not quite there before, although even then I cannot say it wasn't. I might sound confused but I am neither confused nor not-unconfused.

 

My brain hurts and I'm tired. But it feels good to sleep.

Edited September 28, 2013 by fluidity

[C T]

Yes'n'No

 

Dropped into Nirvikalpa 2 years ago. Divine grace, believe me I did not really do anything but be my Self, just a random kid. It is only now that I am starting to comprehend the sheer depth of what the hell this means or implies, and to be brutally honest I still have no real idea. But it feels good! Well, both good and not-good and doubleplusgood and halfminusnotungood.

 

 

4 weeks into semen retention and this is what happens, seriously:

 

 

 

 

If anything what I learnt is the same old boring (is it! look around at the beauty!) thing: everyone is already enlightened. The Great Samadhi is one that nobody enters or exits because it is the abiding Samadhi.

 

Then there is also the fact of taking reins of the human form. This is another kind of Samadhi. You have to work to get into this one. Nirvikalpa does not change this. To get into this human Samadhi (i.e. total relaxation) means dissolution of all inner tension. Deep seated inner tension of all kinds. It's amazing how silent Silence is, it's more Silent than you think! Also, more Silent than you not-think! The only way I can point to it is that Silence is not lightness, but lighterness. Always go towards lighter, there is never light-est, only light-er.

 

Forget about enlightenment. Go for enlightenING. Do not be "purified", be purifyING. Always, ALWAYS. I can prove this in a way mathematically, there is a kind of derivative. The rate of change of purity of your I-AM, must be greater than or equal to 1. If you do this then at death you will have a Self, which is eternally in a state of purifying and hence escape the hell realm. If you do not, and you die encircled by impurity, prepare to shit bricks.

 

It feels that Nirvikalpa is doubtless awareness of the Great Samadhi. It changes nothing yet it changes everything. There is a kind of surety in my footsteps that was certainly not quite there before, although even then I cannot say it wasn't. I might sound confused but I am neither confused nor not-unconfused.

 

My brain hurts and I'm tired. But it feels good to sleep.

Interesting notions.

 

how did you arrive at such theories regarding bricks and all that encircling stuff?

 

i am asking because you stated that at death one will have a Self. capital S. Where did you read about this? Or, is this your experience?

[Jetsun]

If anything what I learnt is the same old boring (is it! look around at the beauty!) thing: everyone is already enlightened. The Great Samadhi is one that nobody enters or exits because it is the abiding Samadhi.

 

I suspect that's the big joke, why the Dalai Lama is always laughing especially to questions like that.

[C T]

I suspect that's the big joke, why the Dalai Lama is always laughing especially to questions like that.

its so seriously funny, isn't it? the stories that preoccupy people's minds regarding matters which need compensatory reinforcing labels/terms/mystical blabbering to the point where they (the stories) take on life, and people then live that out.

[Marblehead]

Well, I am pretty sure of one thing; if you don't have a sense of humor your life is going to be quite boring.

[fluidity]

Interesting notions.

 

how did you arrive at such theories regarding bricks and all that encircling stuff?

 

i am asking because you stated that at death one will have a Self. capital S. Where did you read about this? Or, is this your experience?

 

They are not really theories. Peer into the spiritual works of the past and put it all together. I am a physicist in training and I never really started off looking at spirituality for an understanding. There is a special kind of stubbornness in physics. We are so stupid that we want everything broken down pixel by pixel, particle by particle. Only then will we agree that what is right in front of our face is indeed, right in front of our face.

 

'Shitting bricks' is an expression for bone-crunching terror. I cannot really say much more with regards to that.

 

But what I can say from what I know so far, is this. Everything is with perfect purpose and perfect determination. There is nothing random about anything except that randomness is a means to the end, which is always perfect purpose, design and aesthetic. It is the creation of Life, the abiding Home/Garden for the Clear Light. Think of it as a beta test. Everything is being recorded. All your actions are frozen in time and available to examine and cross-examine for future individuals. Comprehend the depth of that and its implications.

 

 

A human Self originates at the point of sperm=>egg connection. Something happens there which we call Birth. Then there is an equal Death at the end. In physics terms, this is known as a worldvolume. A human Be-ing, a verb. You have 3 dimensions of shape (x,y,z) and likewise a precise boundary (your skin). Then Birth and Death are the edges of the human shape along the 4th axis of time. It goes far deeper than this: contemplate ideas such as Hilbert Space or Spanda. You are an immortal Archetype. This is your eternal Home, the form you are now. I am talking with regards to the human You, the You that is just You, who wakes up, eats and poops it all back out. The Atman/Brahman is a different story. But the human You is completely eternal. Or do you think these forms are created and left to wander without aim? They are created and shaped with precise determination and terminated with equally precise knowingness. Such is the Clear Light.

 

The appearance of decay is deceiving! Nothing disappears. The universe is a growing body of Knowledge, this being the weaving of the Clear Light in its self-resonant cavity. All is recorded and preserved. So be careful of your actions! One day they will be fully revealed. Not a single hidden thought will be hidden. Life is made to be Lived, soon enough this will all be completely open.

 

We are abiding in a fractal geometric form which is semi-sentient. The rest is playing dead. But every blade of grass will one day live eternally. Every single creature ever created and eaten will return. And the last Day, is merely the beginning, of what?

 

LIFE

 

 

[Marblehead]

He Fluidity,

 

Are you still holding to your "Creator" beliefs?

[Boy]

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Edited November 3, 2013 by Boy

[RongzomFan]

I suspect that's the big joke, why the Dalai Lama is always laughing especially to questions like that.

 

HH Dalai Lama is laughing at the question because he equates enlightenment with rainbow body

[skydog]

..nevermind.

Edited September 29, 2013 by skydog

[RongzomFan]

rainbow body realisation is this http://thetaobums.com/topic/31481-harmony-and-chakraenergy-drawings/

 

no

[skydog]

yep nevermind.

Edited September 29, 2013 by skydog

[fluidity]

He Fluidity,

 

Are you still holding to your "Creator" beliefs?

 

Belief is useless. Knowledge, firm knowledge. Like the ground you are standing on, which is physically made of the stuff. After truth, can there be any going back? Falsehood is innately distinct from truth by its transient nature. Truth abides.

 

There is a reason for decay and entropy and the modern understanding of science will render all such things clear shortly. It will take a single burst of transmitted enlightenment to the right hard working souls to switch on that aspect of things, there are plenty of us who specialise in the intricate fields and as versatile as human beings are we are also like insects: directed toward a specific purpose. You know when you attempt to act against your nature, that you feel off centre. Consider that the honeybee has a pollen collector built into its leg.

 

 

Nothing ever disappears. Even decay and disappearance are an illusion: that which decays, is merely changing form. Its 'ripe' form was itself a form of decay of the 'dirty' form before it. When something fades off into empty space, it is still there. Such is conservation of energy.

 

The universe expands to make more room, all that empty space is not remotely empty. In fact it contains the sum of all past actions. The past cannot be deleted, the past abides eternally encoded into the fabric of the Present. Look into black hole physics and the nature of decay is made manifestly clear. The spiritual nature of the universe is unraveled by the exploration of the physics of black hole boundaries and the encompassing yet similar nature of the observable universe event horizon.

 

Anyway I do not claim to be enlightened but let's put it this way: from a Vedic astrology point of view, I have a very convenient place of observation. Enlightenment with a capital E I'd define as total cessation of all questioning or total purity. It's a grand task, isn't it? But according to some of the past teachers this is the age of mass enlightenment. Let us see! All is Love

 

 

Also: Nirvikalpa is quite common. I have so far spoke to one person on the internet. He entered it in a monastery somewhere in the far East. The tradition there is that when a monk enters Nirvikalpa, they go again, and again, and again. Until it seeps in. Once is great but it's definitely not the final product.

 

 

The reason why I can speak so surely is that after the experience a supremely divine white light cut two lines into my hand with laserpoint precision as if it were a DNA program that found its completion point. They have been there ever since and every time I look at my hand I am amazed, awestruck, dazzled and I still don't really quite grasp the depth or brunt of what this entails.

Edited September 29, 2013 by fluidity

[Marblehead]

Belief is useless. Knowledge, firm knowledge.

The reason I asked was because I saw some religious connotations in your previous post. Religion sometimes gets in the way of our attaining awareness (fact recognition).

 

Your studies require a non-biased mind. From this post I think you will be okay. Hehehe.

 

(Of course, I am a Materialist so I pick up on little things like that.)

[Unlearner]

Belief is useless. Knowledge, firm knowledge. Like the ground you are standing on, which is physically made of the stuff. After truth, can there be any going back? Falsehood is innately distinct from truth by its transient nature. Truth abides.

 

This should sum up most of what I have to say in response to this:

http://thetaobums.com/topic/28469-atheism-is-realist-buddhist-definition-just-like-theism/?p=479394

 

Please don't take this as me being hostile, I don't mean it in that way, but it does not seem like you are a scientist yourself, so I'm curious as to why you have such strong conviction in it. You have several good points, but overall it appears as if you follow science devoutly as it's handed to you in books and classrooms, so how is it that you can accept such things of which you have no experience whatsoever as being "knowledge" without regarding anything for belief?