Underground City of Reptilians: NEWSPAPER ARTICLE

[Taomeow]

Well, yeah. But thank you.

 

And as to whether they practice kunlun, some of them are in on it, though I wouldn't say they practice it, more like, if you practice it, they may establish a line of communication if you are of interest to any of them. (And then just hope it's the "right kind" you are of interest to rather than the wrong kind. ) One has to keep in mind that even here on earth we are dealing with species hundreds of millions of years older than our own. A lot can happen in a time period hundreds of millions of years longer than our own.

 

I recently listened to a Tibetan lama teaching communication with the nagas. The subject of the lecture was attracting wealth. In Dzogchen (Tibetan Buddhist tradition) they use nagas for this purpose. The purpose is not seen as good or bad in and of itself -- how you will handle the wealth you attract is what will make or break your virtue. He said that they are a bit like mafia, nagas are, and mafia started out to right the wrongs but proceeded to commit quite a few wrongs of their own in the process. He asserted that if you establish contacts with them (he teaches how), you have to keep in mind that you are asking favors of a gang, a power that is akin to organized crime whose activities can, however, be legitimized in some cases. They are much like armies, which are thought of as legitimate units of power by most governments and their constituents, whereas another way to look at them is, they are nothing but organized crime that has gained mainstream acceptance, usually by force. Serving the nagas is like serving in the army -- can be used for good or for bad.

Edited October 26, 2013 by Taomeow

[Protector]

*cough* Africa *cough*

 

 

I'll go somewhere and stop terrorizing this thread

 

 

omg I remember studying this one in school

 

[Taomeow]

*cough* Africa *cough*

 

 

I'll go somewhere and stop terrorizing this thread

 

 

omg I remember studying this one in school

 

 

Before you do, would you please help me ascertain that I understand you correctly -- are you saying that Los Angeles is in Africa?..

[Protector]

No, Egypt is

They had the exact same thing going on in there

 

 

AWAYYYYYYYYYYY

[hod]

Even Taoism has a myth of creation involving half human half snake beings.

 

From Wikipedia articles about Nuwa and Fu Xi:

 

According to legend, the land was swept by a great flood and only Fu Xi and his sister Nüwa survived. They retired to the mythological Kunlun Mountain, where they prayed for a sign from the Emperor of Heaven. The divine being approved their union and the siblings set about procreating the human race. In order to speed up the process, Fu Xi and Nüwa used clay to create human figures, and with the power divine entrusted to them made the clay figures come alive.^[1] Fu Xi then came to rule over his descendants, although reports of his long reign vary between sources, from 115 years (2852–2737 BCE) to 116 years (2952–2836 BCE).

 

Nüwa and Fu Xi were pictured as having snake like tails interlocked...

 

 

Edited October 27, 2013 by hod

[Owledge]

All I can say based on the article is that the explanation of his device is kinda open for misrepresentation and deception. 'Knowing' of tunnels or 'geting information' from a device can always be completely false, based on how that device actually works.

 

So it seems there never has been an excavation.

Didn't he find the entrance or come close to? No probing dig? What happened after what the article reported about?

[Brian]

Even Taoism has a myth of creation involving half human half snake beings.

 

From Wikipedia articles about Nuwa and Fu Xi:

 

 

 

 

Wait... So the human race came into existence some time after 2952 BC? Hmmm...

 

And where did Nuwa and Fu Xi come from?

 

This is all so confusing!

 

[hod]

Wait... So the human race came into existence some time after 2952 BC? Hmmm...

 

And where did Nuwa and Fu Xi come from?

 

This is all so confusing!

 

 

 

Don't confuse myths with facts. They have a bizarre relationship, but are not the same.

Edited October 28, 2013 by hod

[Isimsiz Biri]

Wait... So the human race came into existence some time after 2952 BC? Hmmm...

 

And where did Nuwa and Fu Xi come from?

 

This is all so confusing!

 

 

 

Human race came into existence around 16420 BC

 

No reptilians. We are descendants of Adam and Eve.

[hod]

We are descendants of Adam and Eve.

 

If we're going with that myth. Who was this snake who could communicate with Eve to convince her to eat the apple.

Edited October 28, 2013 by hod

[Apech]

If we're going with that myth. Who was this snake who could communicate with Eve to convince her to eat the apple.

 

 

Don't know hissss name.

[Isimsiz Biri]

If we're going with that myth. Who was this snake who could communicate with Eve to convince her to eat the apple.

 

Simple. It was not snake. It was Satan. Its other name is Iblees (Iblis)

 

Holy Quran, Surat Al-'A`rāf (The Heights), 7th Sura:

 

(7:11) And We have certainly created you, [O Mankind], and given you [human] form. Then We said to the angels, "Prostrate to Adam"; so they prostrated, except for Iblees. He was not of those who prostrated.

 

(7:12) [ Allah ] said, "What prevented you from prostrating when I commanded you?" [satan] said, "I am better than him. You created me from fire and created him from clay."

 

(7:13) [ Allah ] said, "Descend from Paradise, for it is not for you to be arrogant therein. So get out; indeed, you are of the debased.

 

(7:14) [satan] said, "Reprieve me until the Day they are resurrected."

 

(7:15) [ Allah ] said, "Indeed, you are of those reprieved."

 

(7:16) [satan] said, "Because You have put me in error, I will surely sit in wait for them on Your straight path.

 

(7:17) Then I will come to them from before them and from behind them and on their right and on their left, and You will not find most of them grateful [to You]."

 

(7:18) [ Allah ] said, "Get out of Paradise, reproached and expelled. Whoever follows you among them - I will surely fill Hell with you, all together."

 

(7:19) And "O Adam, dwell, you and your wife, in Paradise and eat from wherever you will but do not approach this tree, lest you be among the wrongdoers."

 

(7:20) But Satan whispered to them to make apparent to them that which was concealed from them of their private parts. He said, "Your Lord did not forbid you this tree except that you become angels or become of the immortal."

 

(7:21) And he swore [by Allah ] to them, "Indeed, I am to you from among the sincere advisors."

 

(7:22) So he made them fall, through deception. And when they tasted of the tree, their private parts became apparent to them, and they began to fasten together over themselves from the leaves of Paradise. And their Lord called to them, "Did I not forbid you from that tree and tell you that Satan is to you a clear enemy?"

 

(7:23) They said, "Our Lord, we have wronged ourselves, and if You do not forgive us and have mercy upon us, we will surely be among the losers."

 

(7:24) [ Allah ] said, "Descend, being to one another enemies. And for you on the earth is a place of settlement and enjoyment for a time."

 

(7:25) He said, "Therein you will live, and therein you will die, and from it you will be brought forth."

 

(7:26) O children of Adam, We have bestowed upon you clothing to conceal your private parts and as adornment. But the clothing of righteousness - that is best. That is from the signs of Allah that perhaps they will remember.

 

(7:27) O children of Adam, let not Satan tempt you as he removed your parents from Paradise, stripping them of their clothing to show them their private parts. Indeed, he sees you, he and his tribe, from where you do not see them. Indeed, We have made the devils allies to those who do not believe.

 

 

Please pay attention to (7:20). Satan deceives Adam and Eve by telling them if they eat that apple they will either become an angel or an immortal. (sound familiar eh? in a Daoist Forum)

 

Adam was aware that spirit is already immortal and immortality of a physical body is not possible. The word immortality is used exactly in the same context that there will no need to rebirth or to get out of Samsara, the wheel of life in Hindu/Buddhist terminology.

 

Today, exactly the same scenario is valid through Daoism. Everybody believes that if he/she can become a Xian, then he/she can avoid rebirth or at least he/she can decide about the conditions of next birth. For instance, they believe that Liao Sigung of Mo Pai was a Xian to avoid rebirth even though he killed an entire village with women, children, elderly.

 

A typical trick by Satan since last 18433 years.

Edited October 28, 2013 by Isimsiz Biri

[Taomeow]

Wait... So the human race came into existence some time after 2952 BC? Hmmm...

 

And where did Nuwa and Fu Xi come from?

 

This is all so confusing!

 

Nuwa an Fuxi in the second picture actually show where they come from. Those little connected circles around them, they are not decorations, they are constellations. Some are recognizable, e.g. Fuxi has the Big Dipper over his shoulder (if you look closely, it is complete with two stars to the left and to the right of the handle, these stars used to be visible in the sky but then became invisible. Taoist texts assert that cultivators of a certain level can see them again.) Nuwa has the Little DIpper over her head. Its orientation does not look the same as in modern times, but it does seem to point where it always points -- to the North Pole Star. People who know more (e.g. a taoist in Xi'an in whose little Museum of Acupuncture I saw this picture for the first time) recognize more of the constellations and their connection to Chinese astrology (of which there are several major systems and the one dealing with stars and planets analyzes some 60 of them.) Then you take a look at the tools they're holding -- don't they look familiar? Where did the freemasons get theirs d'you reckon?

[Brian]

Nuwa an Fuxi in the second picture actually show where they come from. Those little connected circles around them, they are not decorations, they are constellations. Some are recognizable, e.g. Fuxi has the Big Dipper over his shoulder (if you look closely, it is complete with two stars to the left and to the right of the handle, these stars used to be visible in the sky but then became invisible. Taoist texts assert that cultivators of a certain level can see them again.) Nuwa has the Little DIpper over her head. Its orientation does not look the same as in modern times, but it does seem to point where it always points -- to the North Pole Star. People who know more (e.g. a taoist in Xi'an in whose little Museum of Acupuncture I saw this picture for the first time) recognize more of the constellations and their connection to Chinese astrology (of which there are several major systems and the one dealing with stars and planets analyzes some 60 of them.) Then you take a look at the tools they're holding -- don't they look familiar? Where did the freemasons get theirs d'you reckon?

Very interesting.

 

Thank you, Taomeow!

 

There are themes that echo through the tunnels of time, aren't there?

[Apech]

Nuwa an Fuxi in the second picture actually show where they come from. Those little connected circles around them, they are not decorations, they are constellations. Some are recognizable, e.g. Fuxi has the Big Dipper over his shoulder (if you look closely, it is complete with two stars to the left and to the right of the handle, these stars used to be visible in the sky but then became invisible. Taoist texts assert that cultivators of a certain level can see them again.) Nuwa has the Little DIpper over her head. Its orientation does not look the same as in modern times, but it does seem to point where it always points -- to the North Pole Star. People who know more (e.g. a taoist in Xi'an in whose little Museum of Acupuncture I saw this picture for the first time) recognize more of the constellations and their connection to Chinese astrology (of which there are several major systems and the one dealing with stars and planets analyzes some 60 of them.) Then you take a look at the tools they're holding -- don't they look familiar? Where did the freemasons get theirs d'you reckon?

 

 

What are the tools they are holding? And is that the sun and moon (the two big disks?).

[Taomeow]

What are the tools they are holding? And is that the sun and moon (the two big disks?).

"In the underground tomb of Fan Yen-Shih, d. A.D. 689, two painted silk veils show the First Ancestors of the Chinese, their entwined serpent bodies rotating around the invisible vertical axis mundi. Fu Hsi holds the set-square and plumb bob … as he rules the four-cornered earth, while his sister-wife Nü-wa holds the compass pointing up, as she rules the circling heavens. The phrase kuci chü is used by modern Chinese to signify “the way things should be, the moral standard”; it literally means the compass and the square."

 

And, yes, those are the sun and the moon .

[Apech]

"In the underground tomb of Fan Yen-Shih, d. A.D. 689, two painted silk veils show the First Ancestors of the Chinese, their entwined serpent bodies rotating around the invisible vertical axis mundi. Fu Hsi holds the set-square and plumb bob … as he rules the four-cornered earth, while his sister-wife Nü-wa holds the compass pointing up, as she rules the circling heavens. The phrase kuci chü is used by modern Chinese to signify “the way things should be, the moral standard”; it literally means the compass and the square."

 

And, yes, those are the sun and the moon .

 

Excellent - thanks.

[SonOfTheGods]

[dawei]

"In the underground tomb of Fan Yen-Shih, d. A.D. 689, two painted silk veils show the First Ancestors of the Chinese, their entwined serpent bodies rotating around the invisible vertical axis mundi. Fu Hsi holds the set-square and plumb bob … as he rules the four-cornered earth, while his sister-wife Nü-wa holds the compass pointing up, as she rules the circling heavens. The phrase kuci chü is used by modern Chinese to signify “the way things should be, the moral standard”; it literally means the compass and the square."

 

And, yes, those are the sun and the moon .

 

Here is an ancient star map:

 

I never thought to overlay it with the Fuxi/Nuwa constellation photo... not that dissimilar.

 

To expand on your comments:

 

Fuxi is holding a carpenter’s square (矩,Ju-symbol of earth) and Nuwa is holding a compass (規, Gui-symbol of heaven). The words together as Gui Ju mean a rule, custom, keeping order or well-behaved. Thus, these words also hold the meaning as measuring some distinction (ie: between right and wrong).

This is seen as one of the oldest archtypes of comparing heaven (round) and earth (square), and as a representative dualism of Yin and Yang (Fuxi as yang oversees Earth as yin; Nuwa as yin oversees heaven as yang).

[dawei]

And where did Nuwa and Fu Xi come from?

 

Since you asked... and it depends on a few 'stories'... but they are brother and sister who after marrying prohibited the marrying of those with a similar clan name; it must be good to be the 'first' and to make up the rules

 

Fu Xi, (伏羲) was born Mi Xi (宓羲), which means ‘silent breath’.

Fuxi is also known as Tai Hao (太昊), or Great Magnificant, Tai Di (太帝) or Celestial Emperor, and Pao Xi (庖犧) which may be the origin of his teaching of "yielding sacrificial-animals".

 

Fu Xi's surname was Feng (風, wind) which is pronounced the same as another character Feng (鳳) meaning a Pheonix. Fu Xi observed Pheonixes gathering on a tong tree and based on this image he made the string instrument guqin (he cut down a piece of tong wood to make a qin and used silk cord for strings). The sound of the Qin was said to restore the inner soul. He is called the first of the Sovereigns and attributed to be guided by the element of wood, the season of spring, the cardinal direction of east, and the planet of Jupiter.

 

http://www.mysteriouschina.com/chinese-myth-legend-1-fu-xi-legend/

 

 

Nu Wa, ( 女媧 or 女娲) also had the surname of Feng (風) being the sister of Fu Xi (at least in some accounts). She is sometimes referred to as the snake goddess. There is an interesting alternate story for her name: that her father was Shui Jingzi (水精子), the Spirit of Water belonging to a tribe in northern China with the surname Ying 嬴 (meaning snail). She was formed like a human being except that, instead of having legs, she had a tail and glided over the earth. She had a long head with two fleshy horns, her body resembling that of a snail (wa 蝸), hence she was called Nu Wa (meaning snail-maid), and worshiped as a snail goddess (蝸牛神).

 

According to "Duyi Zhi" (獨異志) by Li Rong of the Tang Dynasty (618-907), sectioned as “opening of the universe”, there were a brother and a sister called Nvwa, living in Kunlun Mountains (崑崙), and there were no ordinary people at that time. They wished to become husband and wife, yet, felt shy about it. Thus, the brother took his younger sister to the top of the mountain and swore: "If Heaven allows us to be husband and wife, please let the clouds gather; if not, please let the clouds scatter." Then, the clouds gathered together. The younger sister came to live with her brother. She made a fan with grass to hide her face. The present custom of women taking a fan in their hands originated from that story.

 

Where did they come from?

According to the book of Liezi, The Dream of Huaxu (華胥之夢 Huaxu zhi Meng) means a dream like or uptopia land: “The Yellow Emperor had ruled for 15 years but he worried because the world was not well-ordered; so he withdrew, resting himself in the Palace of the Great Court. He purified his heart and submitted his body (to plain living). For three months he himself had nothing to do with carrying out the affairs of state. Once he had a daytime dream about traveling around the state of the Huaxu clan. This was a natural place, where people had no cravings and did not die prematurely. They did not think about clinging to life, nor did think about the fear of death. (Ideas about) beauty and ugliness did not grow in their hearts. mountains and valleys did not cause them to stop walking, and they took lived happily. When the Yellow Emperor awoke he felt happy and contented; he now understood the greatest Dao. For the next 28 years the world was very well regulated, resembling the state of the Huaxu, uptopia society, (in his dream).”

 

Tradition holds that HuaXu was a clan and the matriarial ruler who was the mother of Fuxi and Nuwa. It was said she saw a very large footprint while travelling around Thunder Lake and got caught up in its energy but then emerged pregnant. She is said to have carried Fuxi for 12 years. This area was called Chengji. Eventually she gave birth to Fuxi...