RongzomFan Posted December 3, 2013 b ) Duly noted. Its good you acknowledge this flaw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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yabyum24 Posted December 3, 2013 Atman is just Sanskrit for identity. There is no Hindu atman, or Buddhist views on Hindu atman. I very much like the first line. The problem with the second line is that many Buddhists believe that they are exposing the Hindu fallacy of the 'eternalist Atman' (aka soul). The antidote to which is 'emptiness' - the un-findability of such a 'thing' amongst its assumed basis or elsewhere for that matter (your pal Chandrakirti for example). This is a BIG issue with Buddhists of all schools. No Atman - is what sets us apart! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 3, 2013 I very much like the first line. The problem with the second line is that many Buddhists believe that they are exposing the Hindu fallacy of the 'eternalist Atman' (aka soul). The antidote to which is 'emptiness' - the un-findability of such a 'thing' amongst its assumed basis or elsewhere for that matter (your pal Chandrakirti for example). This is a BIG issue with Buddhists of all schools. No Atman - is what sets us apart! No no no. Buddhists are negating identity / self that even cavemen had. It has nothing to do with Hindu notions of atman. Buddha predates most of Hinduism. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) All the Indian royalty were originally Buddhist. http://books.google.com/books?id=RvuDlhpvvHwC&pg=PA12&dq=Buddhist+Vishnu+before+the+eighth+century,+the+Buddha+was+accorded&hl=en&sa=X&ei=41IpUeT_B7G80QHSkoEY&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Buddhist%20Vishnu%20before%20the%20eighth%20century%2C%20the%20Buddha%20was%20accorded&f=false The scholar Ronald Inden is someone even Rajiv Malhotra likes. So its fact. http://rajivmalhotra.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29&catid=22:dialog-of-civilizations&Itemid=26 Edited December 3, 2013 by RongzomFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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RongzomFan Posted December 3, 2013 One question: Does tibetan buddhism apply to ”householders”? Of course. Most lamas are householders who have children. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 3, 2013 The only guys who are monks, are Gelugs like HH Dalai Lama. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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RongzomFan Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) This thread is in response to this: http://thetaobums.com/topic/32458-anadi-buddhism-has-flaws/ Edited December 4, 2013 by RongzomFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 12, 2013 I wouldn't! lol Did you ever read translations of Vedanta texts? http://www.amazon.com/The-Essential-Vedanta-Treasures-Religions/dp/0941532526 Ramana is laughable compared to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites