Request for moving posts to split thread.

Thunder_Gooch · November 24, 2013

(deleted to consolidate posts)

Edited November 25, 2013 by More_Pie_Guy

Brian · November 24, 2013

I believe you fain misunderstanding, MPG. The problem in the Stillness-Movement movement thread was not the mention of earth energy but the dragging in (again) of the mo pai definition of yin qi, despite repeated requests to not do so.

Since the rest of the community's use of the phrase "yin qi" offends you so deeply and since you reject the proposal that you assume references to "yin qi" do not mean "mo pai yin qi" (as you maintain that only the mo pai definition is acceptable), I suggest that you write a client-side script for your browser:

Any time the phrase "yin qi" appears in a thread which does not also include the phrase "mo pai," substitute the phrase "yinbutnotmopaiyin qi" in its place.

Problem solved...

Edited November 24, 2013 by Brian

BaguaKicksAss · November 24, 2013

MPG, this would be a moderator decision in this case since the thread was about "Stillnes Movement" in particular.

BaguaKicksAss · November 24, 2013

More_Pie_Guy, I don't think you need to consolidate every post (if any, I'm still trying to figure that bit out) unless it's a yin qi specific pile of posts .

thelerner · November 25, 2013

There's a certain 'poison' to Mo Pai discussions. I don't know why, but they degenerate into arguments. A mention of Mo Pai is enough to derail a thread. MPG as our leading Mo Pai contributor, you should create strategies to keep Mo Pai discussions more civil. Don't know how (maybe use a code word, like J.Changs system?), but sometimes you seem to contribute to Mo Pai chaos problem.

Edited November 25, 2013 by thelerner

Thunder_Gooch · November 25, 2013

There's a certain 'poison' to Mo Pai discussions. I don't know why, but they degenerate into arguments. A mention of Mo Pai is enough to derail a thread. MPG as our leading Mo Pai contributor, you should create strategies to keep Mo Pai discussions more civil. Don't know how (maybe use a code word, like J.Changs system?), but sometimes you seem to contribute to Mo Pai chaos problem.

Response below:

I agree.

Most spiritual people and skeptics alike find the evidence for mo pai "too good to be true", and denounce it before examining it themselves. They work to actively discredit everything about it because it's "just too unbelievable".

Most spiritual people come with the attitude that all paths are equal

(not including the too good to be true paths).

Mo pai-ers come with the attitude that only paths that get results you can document are valid, and everything else is a waste of time. Real vs make believe. They view these other paths as silly and absurd false paths holding humanity back.

I think this mopai superiority pov greatly offends many of the normal spiritual people, and they deeply resent mo pai because of it, not to mention many of them feel it is a cult, hoax, exaggeration, impossible etc.

I don't see that conflict of worldviews being resolved anytime soon.

This isn't something I think is really solvable, even if only those interested in mo pai were involved in a discussion it's going to be nothing but argument because it attracts the worst type of people. Scammers, con-artists, liars, psychos, caffeinated adhd spazmatic 5 year olds, dbz fans, some combination of all that, you name it... they are drawn to mo pai it like moths to a flame.

There is no fixing the mo pai issue short of a moratorium on it's discussion, and everything related to it.

Perhaps all mo pai and similar threads instantly locked and pitted as a blanket policy.

That's the only way it's ever going to *go away*.

Just my $0.02

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I believe you fain misunderstanding, MPG. The problem in the Stillness-Movement movement thread was not the mention of earth energy but the dragging in (again) of the mo pai definition of yin qi, despite repeated requests to not do so.

Response below:

Brian, I think I understand pretty well.

This was brought back into the discussion:

http://thetaobums.com/topic/32412-can-the-practice-of-stillness-movement-add-to-your-martial-arts-ability/page-4#entry498139

First off there is not a different Earth Qi from one system to the next. In essence, we are all speaking of the same thing.

I disagree with this statement, vehemently because what SM is describing and defining as yin energy doesn't match how it is defined and described by mo pai.

There really isn't any other way to say "this is incorrect information", and defend that stance than doing it in the thread it was posted in.

The topic of yin energy is either on topic or it isn't.

I think it's a bit silly to say somethings can't be disagreed with because that will take the topic off topic.

LOL when has that "rule" EVER applied to any discussion about mo pai?

When has that ever stopped half these people who are complaining now from doing the same elsewhere?

It seems to me there is a heavy double standard being applied, as discussion of yin chi either is or is not on topic.

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Recently the thread

http://thetaobums.com/topic/32412-can-the-practice-of-stillness-movement-add-to-your-martial-arts-ability/

Had discussions of yin energy/chi split to another thread as such discussion was deemed off topic.

Here:

http://thetaobums.com/topic/32679-yin-chi-number-3/

I would like to request the following posts also be moved to the new split thread whenever possible, as discussion of yin chi was deemed off topic for that thread.

Thank you much.

Links in spoiler:

http://thetaobums.com/topic/32412-can-the-practice-of-stillness-movement-add-to-your-martial-arts-ability/page-2#entry492563

http://thetaobums.com/topic/32412-can-the-practice-of-stillness-movement-add-to-your-martial-arts-ability/page-2#entry492762

http://thetaobums.com/topic/32412-can-the-practice-of-stillness-movement-add-to-your-martial-arts-ability/page-3#entry493351

http://thetaobums.com/topic/32412-can-the-practice-of-stillness-movement-add-to-your-martial-arts-ability/page-3#entry493542

http://thetaobums.com/topic/32412-can-the-practice-of-stillness-movement-add-to-your-martial-arts-ability/page-3#entry493558

http://thetaobums.com/topic/32412-can-the-practice-of-stillness-movement-add-to-your-martial-arts-ability/page-3#entry493571

http://thetaobums.com/topic/32412-can-the-practice-of-stillness-movement-add-to-your-martial-arts-ability/page-3#entry493600

http://thetaobums.com/topic/32412-can-the-practice-of-stillness-movement-add-to-your-martial-arts-ability/page-3#entry493706

http://thetaobums.com/topic/32412-can-the-practice-of-stillness-movement-add-to-your-martial-arts-ability/page-4#entry498139

http://thetaobums.com/topic/32412-can-the-practice-of-stillness-movement-add-to-your-martial-arts-ability/page-4#entry498298