Debunking a Creator

[RongzomFan]

You have stated the problem with religion in general and Buddhism in particular. To say that certain ideology is only for the mature is arrogance. That attitude further divides and serves no one.

 

If you say so.

[RongzomFan]

Your reasoning is flawed and proceeds from incorrect conclusions.

 

Where is my reasoning presented regarding this?

 

I haven't even presented it.

[RongzomFan]

By the way,

 

Ralis has some sort of grudge with Buddhism.

 

Just so everyone knows.

[ralis]

If you say so.

 

From what I have seen from your posts, you add nothing but propaganda while disrespecting others here.

[RongzomFan]

From what I have seen from your posts, you add nothing but propaganda while disrespecting others here.

 

What is your feeling about Tibetan Lamas?

[Simple_Jack]

By the way,

 

Ralis has some sort of grudge with Buddhism.

 

Just so everyone knows.

 

He has a grudge against religion in general, which is understandable, but narrow minded. Maybe this stems from growing up in a conservative Christian household.

 

What is your feeling about Tibetan Lamas?

 

Which was probably exasperated when he came into contact with Tibetan Buddhism.

[ralis]

By the way,

 

Ralis has some sort of grudge with Buddhism.

 

Just so everyone knows.

 

 

The OP is not in regards to Buddhism.

[ralis]

He has a grudge against religion in general, which is understandable, but narrow minded. Maybe this stems from growing up in a conservative Christian household.

 

 

Which was probably exasperated when he came into contact with Tibetan Buddhism.

 

I am not narrow minded. I am challenging dogma and asking questions.

[RongzomFan]

You have stated the problem with religion in general and Buddhism in particular.

 

 

BUddhism in Particular??

 

 

[C T]

He has a grudge against religion in general, which is understandable, but narrow minded. Maybe this stems from growing up in a conservative Christian household.

 

 

Which was probably exasperated when he came into contact with Tibetan Buddhism.

Exacerbated, yes? (i had to look up the spelling).

[ralis]

Where is my reasoning presented regarding this?

 

I haven't even presented it.

 

You quoted from a teacher http://thetaobums.com/topic/32820-debunking-a-creator/page-11#entry502235 as if that is what you believe.

[RongzomFan]

You quoted from a teacher http://thetaobums.com/topic/32820-debunking-a-creator/page-11#entry502235 as if that is what you believe.

 

Yes but the reasoning is not in that post. Thats just the conclusion.

[ralis]

What amazes me is how Buddhists judge others as wanting and ignorant.

[C T]

What amazes me is how Buddhists judge others as wanting and ignorant.

what amazes me equally is how often you judge Buddhists.

[ralis]

Yes but the reasoning is not in that post. Thats just the conclusion.

 

Why are you Buddhists so intent on proselytizing? Guilty conscience perhaps?

[ralis]

what amazes me equally is how often you judge Buddhists.

 

The reason is the incessant preaching and condemnation of others. Namely that others are ignorant/immature to even allow the special secret teachings to be corrupted on low-lifes. I resent that arrogant fundamentalist attitude.

[RongzomFan]

The reason is the incessant preaching and condemnation of others. Namely that others are ignorant/immature to even allow the special secret teachings to be corrupted on low-lifes. I resent that arrogant fundamentalist attitude.

 

Here we go

[RongzomFan]

I am challenging dogma and asking questions.

 

 

Except your own.

[ralis]

Here we go

 

You start a thread and derail it with Buddhist ideology.

[C T]

The reason is the incessant preaching and condemnation of others. Namely that others are ignorant/immature to even allow the special secret teachings to be corrupted on low-lifes. I resent that arrogant fundamentalist attitude.

Are you saying its ok for you to resent things you deem as improper, and vocalizing your resentment, and not ok for some Buddhists to feel and act in the same vein?

 

Buddhists are humans before they are buddhists.

[RongzomFan]

You start a thread and derail it with Buddhist ideology.

 

The first post is Buddhist.

 

You know the part where I say everything is illusion.

[ralis]

Are you saying its ok for you to resent things you deem as improper, and vocalizing your resentment, and not ok for some Buddhists to feel and act in the same vein?

 

Buddhists are humans before they are buddhists.

 

I am stating that Buddhist ideology is a fundamental problem. I have every right to point that out.

[ralis]

The first post is Buddhist.

 

You know the part where I say everything is illusion.

 

Other religions believe that everything is an illusion. To use so called Buddhist logic to affirm Buddhist ideology is rhetorical nonsense.

[RongzomFan]

I am stating that Buddhist ideology is a fundamental problem. I have every right to point that out.

 

 

We do not put forth a philosophical position.

 

Nagarjuna said "If I had any position, I thereby would be at fault. Since

I have no position, I am not at fault at all."

 

Aryadeva said "Against someone who has no thesis of “existence,

nonexistence, or [both] existence and nonexistence,” it is not possible to

level a charge, even if [this is tried] for a long time."

[Brian]

Are you saying its ok for you to resent things you deem as improper, and vocalizing your resentment, and not ok for some Buddhists to feel and act in the same vein?

 

Buddhists are humans before they are buddhists.

 

Now,I'm confused -- I thought Buddhists were imaginary.