RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 You have stated the problem with religion in general and Buddhism in particular. To say that certain ideology is only for the mature is arrogance. That attitude further divides and serves no one. If you say so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 Your reasoning is flawed and proceeds from incorrect conclusions. Where is my reasoning presented regarding this? I haven't even presented it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 By the way, Ralis has some sort of grudge with Buddhism. Just so everyone knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 6, 2013 If you say so. From what I have seen from your posts, you add nothing but propaganda while disrespecting others here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 From what I have seen from your posts, you add nothing but propaganda while disrespecting others here. What is your feeling about Tibetan Lamas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted December 6, 2013 By the way, Ralis has some sort of grudge with Buddhism. Just so everyone knows. He has a grudge against religion in general, which is understandable, but narrow minded. Maybe this stems from growing up in a conservative Christian household. What is your feeling about Tibetan Lamas? Which was probably exasperated when he came into contact with Tibetan Buddhism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 6, 2013 By the way, Ralis has some sort of grudge with Buddhism. Just so everyone knows. The OP is not in regards to Buddhism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 6, 2013 He has a grudge against religion in general, which is understandable, but narrow minded. Maybe this stems from growing up in a conservative Christian household. Which was probably exasperated when he came into contact with Tibetan Buddhism. I am not narrow minded. I am challenging dogma and asking questions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 You have stated the problem with religion in general and Buddhism in particular. BUddhism in Particular?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C T Posted December 6, 2013 He has a grudge against religion in general, which is understandable, but narrow minded. Maybe this stems from growing up in a conservative Christian household. Which was probably exasperated when he came into contact with Tibetan Buddhism. Exacerbated, yes? (i had to look up the spelling). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 6, 2013 Where is my reasoning presented regarding this? I haven't even presented it. You quoted from a teacher http://thetaobums.com/topic/32820-debunking-a-creator/page-11#entry502235 as if that is what you believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 You quoted from a teacher http://thetaobums.com/topic/32820-debunking-a-creator/page-11#entry502235 as if that is what you believe. Yes but the reasoning is not in that post. Thats just the conclusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 6, 2013 What amazes me is how Buddhists judge others as wanting and ignorant. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C T Posted December 6, 2013 What amazes me is how Buddhists judge others as wanting and ignorant. what amazes me equally is how often you judge Buddhists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 6, 2013 Yes but the reasoning is not in that post. Thats just the conclusion. Why are you Buddhists so intent on proselytizing? Guilty conscience perhaps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 6, 2013 what amazes me equally is how often you judge Buddhists. The reason is the incessant preaching and condemnation of others. Namely that others are ignorant/immature to even allow the special secret teachings to be corrupted on low-lifes. I resent that arrogant fundamentalist attitude. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 The reason is the incessant preaching and condemnation of others. Namely that others are ignorant/immature to even allow the special secret teachings to be corrupted on low-lifes. I resent that arrogant fundamentalist attitude. Here we go Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 I am challenging dogma and asking questions. Except your own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 6, 2013 Here we go You start a thread and derail it with Buddhist ideology. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C T Posted December 6, 2013 The reason is the incessant preaching and condemnation of others. Namely that others are ignorant/immature to even allow the special secret teachings to be corrupted on low-lifes. I resent that arrogant fundamentalist attitude. Are you saying its ok for you to resent things you deem as improper, and vocalizing your resentment, and not ok for some Buddhists to feel and act in the same vein? Buddhists are humans before they are buddhists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 You start a thread and derail it with Buddhist ideology. The first post is Buddhist. You know the part where I say everything is illusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 6, 2013 Are you saying its ok for you to resent things you deem as improper, and vocalizing your resentment, and not ok for some Buddhists to feel and act in the same vein? Buddhists are humans before they are buddhists. I am stating that Buddhist ideology is a fundamental problem. I have every right to point that out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 6, 2013 The first post is Buddhist. You know the part where I say everything is illusion. Other religions believe that everything is an illusion. To use so called Buddhist logic to affirm Buddhist ideology is rhetorical nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 I am stating that Buddhist ideology is a fundamental problem. I have every right to point that out. We do not put forth a philosophical position. Nagarjuna said "If I had any position, I thereby would be at fault. Since I have no position, I am not at fault at all." Aryadeva said "Against someone who has no thesis of “existence, nonexistence, or [both] existence and nonexistence,” it is not possible to level a charge, even if [this is tried] for a long time." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Posted December 6, 2013 Are you saying its ok for you to resent things you deem as improper, and vocalizing your resentment, and not ok for some Buddhists to feel and act in the same vein? Buddhists are humans before they are buddhists. Now,I'm confused -- I thought Buddhists were imaginary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites