Debunking a Creator

[RongzomFan]

Ok then.

[ralis]

You didn't challenge anything except by the standards of e-prime.

 

What I see here are statements in regards to beings from divine realms commanding adherence to absolute rules for teaching/transmission. Can that be proven, or is the belief in such, blind faith? Can a rational discourse such as what Buddhists insist on prove the existence of a divine realm that Buddhists defer to without question? Are the so called divine realms pure myth?

 

These are reasonable questions.

[gatito]

 

No, I contrasted this http://thetaobums.com/topic/32739-yidams-in-vajrayana/?p=500270, with this http://thetaobums.com/topic/32739-yidams-in-vajrayana/?p=500323

 

You actually said: -

 

 

You mean like this?

 

http://thetaobums.com/topic/32311-the-importance-of-bodhichitta-and-compassion/?p=496946

 

Lotus_Bitch wrote: Go tell an Advaitan that cit is conditioned by certain factors of mentality (nama) and materiality (rupa), dependent on contact to give rise to the 6 sense media and to practice by being mindful of the arising and passing of each. You will either get a confused look, be laughed at or both.

 

 

 

 

And I posted in answer to your question (and to refute your quote)

Edited December 6, 2013 by gatito

[RongzomFan]

 

What I see here are statements in regards to beings from divine realms commanding adherence to absolute rules for teaching/transmission. Can that be proven, or is the belief in such, blind faith? Can a rational discourse such as what Buddhists insist on prove the existence of a divine realm that Buddhists defer to without question? Are the so called divine realms pure myth?

 

These are reasonable questions.

 

You are assuming I am out to prove the divinity of primordial terma, when I'm not.

 

Its called faith.

 

http://thetaobums.com/topic/32153-mystical-buddhist-readings/

Edited December 6, 2013 by RongzomFan

[Simple_Jack]

What I see here are statements in regards to beings from divine realms commanding adherence to absolute rules for teaching/transmission. Can that be proven, or is the belief in such, blind faith? Can a rational discourse such as what Buddhists insist on prove the existence of a divine realm that Buddhists defer to without question? Are the so called divine realms pure myth?

 

These are reasonable questions.

 

Is this being applied to to the Vedas and Abrahamic religions, also? Because they also claim the same thing.

[gatito]

You are assuming I am out to prove the divinity of primordial terma, when I'm not.

 

Its called faith.

 

So you're reliant on faith!!!

 

I can't believe that

[RongzomFan]

So you're reliant on faith!!!

 

I can't believe that

 

Why not?

[Simple_Jack]

 

You actually said: -

 

 

And I posted in answer to your question (and to refute your quote)

 

Which I contrasted with this http://thetaobums.com/topic/32739-yidams-in-vajrayana/?p=500463

[ralis]

So you're reliant on faith!!!

 

I can't believe that

 

I about fell out of my chair when I read that. Just more faith based religion.

[RongzomFan]

I about fell out of my chair when I read that. Just more faith based religion.

 

Yes, and?

[RongzomFan]

Ralis, we've has this same exact discussion before.

 

Don't pretend you are falling out of your chair.

Unless your old age is affecting your memory.

Edited December 6, 2013 by RongzomFan

[gatito]

Just noticed this attempted misrepresentation

LMAO

There was much more to it than that, as you know

You relied on Wikipedia

[Simple_Jack]

I about fell out of my chair when I read that. Just more faith based religion.

 

Yes, just like the Abrahamic religions, which I have yet to see any directed bias on these boards.

[RongzomFan]

Just noticed this attempted misrepresentation

 

There was much more to it than that, as you know

 

You relied on Wikipedia

 

No.

 

You claimed I made up the term NeoAdvaita.

 

So I had to point out there was a NeoAdvaita Wikipedia article.

[gatito]

Ralis, we've has this same exact discussion before.

 

Don't pretend you are falling out of your chair.

 

Unless your old age is affecting your memory.

 

What it comes down to is that you are a missionary reliant on belief and not on fact

[gatito]

Yes, just like the Abrahamic religions, which I have yet to see any directed bias on these boards.

 

Attempt to divert attention away from the whole point

[RongzomFan]

What it comes down to is that you are a missionary reliant on belief and not on fact

 

And?

[gatito]

No.

 

You claimed I made up the term NeoAdvaita.

 

So I had to point out there was a NeoAdvaita Wikipedia article.

 

No I said that you falsely labelled me a neoadvaitan

[Simple_Jack]

What it comes down to is that you are a missionary reliant on belief and not on fact

 

Which should also apply towards Vedanta and the Abrahamic religions.

[RongzomFan]

No I said that you falsely labelled me a neoadvaitan

 

There is still no "Direct Path" Wikipedia article.

 

Why don't you go make it?

[gatito]

And?

 

This whole discussion is therefore totally pointless because you have no factual basis for your system

[Simple_Jack]

Attempt to divert attention away from the whole point

 

You didn't understand the point which I brought up because you are not a practitioner of buddhadharma.

[gatito]

There is still no "Direct Path" Wikipedia article.

 

Why don't you go make it?

 

The Direct Path is very rare

 

I'm not interested in making a Wiki article

[RongzomFan]

This whole discussion is therefore totally pointless because you have no factual basis for your system

 

Only for the mystical aspects like transmission and terma.

 

http://thetaobums.com/topic/32153-mystical-buddhist-readings/

[RongzomFan]

The Direct Path is very rare

 

I'm not interested in making a Wiki article

 

LMAO