gatito Posted December 6, 2013 You didn't understand the point which I brought up because you are not a practitioner of buddhadharma. Â If your system is based on belief and not on verifiable facts it is useless to me nad possibly to others Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 6, 2013 Only for the mystical aspects like transmission and terma. Â http://thetaobums.com/topic/32153-mystical-buddhist-readings/ Â What do you mean by that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted December 6, 2013 This whole discussion is therefore totally pointless because you have no factual basis for your system  Which should apply to Vedanta and the Abrahamic religions as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 If your system is based on belief and not on verifiable facts it is useless to me nad possibly to others  I'm sorry you feel that way. Even South Asian scholars treat these subjects quite seriously:  http://www.thlib.org/collections/texts/jiats/#!jiats=/01/germano/b8/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 6, 2013 LMAO  You can find this though - if you look properly  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmananda_Krishna_Menon (://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmananda_Krishna_Menon) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 6, 2013 Which should apply to Vedanta and the Abrahamic religions as well.  Incorrect  Vedanta is verifiable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 You can find this though - if you look properly  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmananda_Krishna_Menon (://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmananda_Krishna_Menon)  I did a CTRL+F for Direct Path, and got shit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted December 6, 2013 If your system is based on belief and not on verifiable facts it is useless to me nad possibly to others  Which proves my point that you, ralis, etc. are reliant on double standards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 Incorrect  Vedanta is verifiable  Really?  Brahman is verifiable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 Incorrect  Vedanta is verifiable  You just dug yourself into a huge hole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted December 6, 2013 Incorrect  Vedanta is verifiable  Double standard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 Adi Shankara believed in Krishna and Vishnu. Â Are Krishna and Vishnu verifiable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 6, 2013 You just dug yourself into a huge hole.  Bet you I didn't  Double standard.  Single standard - verifiable by you in your lifetime - if you're serious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 6, 2013 Adi Shankara believed in Krishna and Vishnu.  Are Krishna and Vishnu verifiable?  I wasn't around when he was around so I cannot verify the truth of that statement  Not relevant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 Single standard - verifiable by you in your lifetime - if you're serious  You are probably talking about recognizing the nature of the mind.  We have that too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted December 6, 2013 Single standard - verifiable by you in your lifetime - if you're serious  Funny you're only applying this to Vedanta which further proves my point that you, ralis, etc. are reliant on double standards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 6, 2013 Are you serious abo  You are probably talking about recognizing the nature of the mind.  We have that too.  I'm talking about what I know about and what you can verify independently for yourselves if you're open enough to the possibility to actually investigate it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 I wasn't around when he was around so I cannot verify the truth of that statement  Not relevant  http://books.google.com/books?id=0z02cZe8PU8C&pg=PA313&dq=krishna+a+sourcebook+He+describes+Krishna+as+an+avatara+of+Vishnu/Narayana,+indeed&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JVGhUsCSOc_lsATU04DwAw&ved=0CDQQuwUwAA#v=onepage&q=krishna%20a%20sourcebook%20He%20describes%20Krishna%20as%20an%20avatara%20of%20Vishnu%2FNarayana%2C%20indeed&f=false Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 Are you serious abo   I'm talking about what I know about and what you can verify independently for yourselves if you're open enough to the possibility to actually investigate it  Does anyone know what this guy is talking about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 6, 2013 Funny you're only applying this to Vedanta which further proves my point that you, ralis, etc. are reliant on double standards. Â I reiterate that I can only discuss what I know about - no double standard - it's not reliant on any belief Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 6, 2013 Does anyone know what this guy is talking about? Â I know what I'm talking about Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted December 6, 2013 Does anyone know what this guy is talking about? Â A double standard because according to him this only applies to Vedanta. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 I reiterate that I can only discuss what I know about - no double standard - it's not reliant on any belief  Are you going to tell us what you know?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted December 6, 2013 I reiterate that I can only discuss what I know about - no double standard - it's not reliant on any belief  Another double standard because I posted a summary on how to put the buddhadharma to practice, here http://thetaobums.com/topic/32739-yidams-in-vajrayana/?p=500344 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 Are you going to tell us what you know?? Â Â bump for a response Share this post Link to post Share on other sites