Isimsiz Biri Posted December 6, 2013 Okay IB. I believe in Allah, and his final messenger Mohammed. Saying it is not enough, you devil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 Allah is a demiurge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isimsiz Biri Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Okay IB. I believe in Allah, and his final messenger Mohammed. Allah is a demiurge. You are a liar. An approved one. Edited December 6, 2013 by Isimsiz Biri Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 You are a liar. An approved one. I'm going by what you yourself said. You said a Creator created cause and effect. Thus the Creator changes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isimsiz Biri Posted December 6, 2013 I'm going by what you yourself said. You said a Creator created cause and effect. Thus the Creator changes. There is no reason for Creator to change because Creator has created cause and affect. If you could watch the videos, you may understand. But Mara will not let you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 There is no reason for Creator to change because Creator has created cause and affect. If the Creator is unchanging and beyond cause and effect, he cannot interact with our physics. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted December 6, 2013 As of yet, no one has been able to debunk the point I made about Dharmic religions, considering it unnecessary to posit a creator god in order to understand the nature of afflictions. E-prime as a legitimate basis for criticism = paradoxical reasoning. Bump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 There are only 3 options, all of which debunk a Creator: 1. Big Bang has no cause. Obviously, there is no Creator here. 2. The Big Bang has causes, which in itself has causes, which in itself has causes etc. There is no place for a Creator in infinite regression of cause and effect. 3. Creator is beyond cause and effect. If Creator is beyond cause and effect, he would have no way of interacting with our physics. P.S. insisting a Creator created cause and effect, makes the "Creator" into a changing demiurge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring crane Posted December 6, 2013 OMG, 32 pages in 2 days?!? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 You are a liar. An approved one. You are right. I believe Allah is a mundane ghost of some kind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) May I suggest just 'OM' if you dont want to take sides. Edited December 6, 2013 by Stosh 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring crane Posted December 6, 2013 May I suggest just 'OM' if you dont want to take sides. Hey, and I didn't even have to explain myself ;-) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted December 6, 2013 OMG, 32 pages in 2 days?!? I thought this thread would've been pitted by now. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted December 6, 2013 As of yet, no one has been able to debunk the point I made about Dharmic religions, considering it unnecessary to posit a creator god in order to understand the nature of afflictions. E-prime as a legitimate basis for criticism = paradoxical reasoning. Bump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 I thought this thread would've been pitted by now. Its a holiday miracle 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Posted December 6, 2013 Lots of juvenile behavior but it keeps returning to the "creator" theme and hasn't dipped too deeply into TOS danger. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Lots of juvenile behavior but it keeps returning to the "creator" theme and hasn't dipped too deeply into TOS danger. I've noticed a lot of biased behavior and double standards by gatito, ralis, etc. Edited December 6, 2013 by Simple_Jack 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) I've noticed a lot of biased behavior and double standards by gatito, ralis, etc. Neither has anyone been able to debunk my statement, indicating that Dharmic religions, consider positing a creator god as unnecessary to understanding the nature of afflictions. Edited December 7, 2013 by Simple_Jack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) If the Creator is uncaused and unchanging, the Creator is incompatible with our physics. It would be like trying to use the full features of this forum with Internet Explorer 11. Impossible. Edited December 6, 2013 by RongzomFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chegg Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Neither has anyone been able to debunk my statement, indicating that Dharmic religions, consider positing a creator god as unnecessary to understanding the nature of afflictions. If i was to have a go at debunking your statement, I'd simply say. *Its wrong*. Now you try and debunk my statement. Regardless of what you say, I'll always have a counter-statement. and the thread will go on forever since you cant really prove anything with just words posted on a thread. Sorry, couldn't resist. Blessings of love and understanding. :wub: :wub: :wub: Edited December 6, 2013 by chegg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) I've seen hamsters masturbate. Edited December 6, 2013 by RongzomFan 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chegg Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) I've seen hamsters masturbate. Hamsters Practice...... http://thetaobums.com/topic/17629-what-made-you-laugh-todaytonight/?p=502760 Edited December 6, 2013 by chegg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 6, 2013 Humans are incapable of absolute understanding of totality. This thread affirms that. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted December 6, 2013 But. It doesnt prove it conclusively.. its just moot. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites