zerostao Posted December 7, 2013 "These are reasonable questions." and where are the reasonable answers? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted December 7, 2013 The Vedas and Upanishads are shruti i.e. uncreated and eternal, ralis please disprove this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 7, 2013 The Kabbalists use the term Ein-sof which means totality which is unexplainable. Kabbalists such as Abraham Abulafia et al. Not New Age types. Â I thought you were some kind of rationalist?? Â Now you are Jewish? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 7, 2013 What I see here are statements in regards to beings from divine realms commanding adherence to absolute rules for teaching/transmission. Can that be proven, or is the belief in such, blind faith? Can a rational discourse such as what Kabbalists insist on prove the existence of a divine realm that Kabbalists defer to without question? Are the so called divine realms pure myth? Â These are reasonable questions. Â You took the liberty to post what I said without giving me credit as if this is your own? Plagiarism! Here is the link to my post. Â http://thetaobums.com/topic/32820-debunking-a-creator/page-19#entry502404 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 7, 2013 I thought you were some kind of rationalist?? Â Now you are Jewish? Â I see a hint of racism in your post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 7, 2013 I see a hint of racism in your post. Â I think you are projecting your own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted December 7, 2013 I see a hint of racism in your post. Â Jews are considered Gods chosen children, please disprove this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 7, 2013 I believe in Allah the demiurge. I am Muslim. Â I believe in the teachings of Rumi. I am a Sufi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 7, 2013 Jewish leave Judaism in droves for Buddhism: Â http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Buddhist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted December 7, 2013 Jews are considered Gods chosen children, please disprove this. Â I believe in the teachings of John Levy. I am a Jew Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 7, 2013 I believe in the teachings of John Levy. I am a Jew  And Vedanta is the essence of all these teachings, correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 7, 2013 I think you are projecting your own. Â I just want to stop any racial/bigotry that may occur in this thread. Perhaps I was overreacting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) Jewish leave Judaism in droves for Buddhism:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Buddhist  Well, that makes sense, they were probably tired of spinning the wheels of absolutist fundamental ideology, when they could focus on more immediate concerns such as understanding the nature of afflictions. Edited December 7, 2013 by Simple_Jack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted December 7, 2013 very interdisciplinary of you gatito. holding to one branch of thought doesnt seem very useful from my pov. it does seem rather limiting. Â 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 7, 2013 Well, that makes sense, they were probably tired of spinning the wheels of absolutist fundamental ideology, when they could focus on immediate concerns such as understanding the nature of afflictions. Â Don't tell me this is the first time you are noticing SJ. Â A lot of Buddhist authors have obviously jewish names. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted December 7, 2013 I just want to stop any racial/bigotry that may occur in this thread. Perhaps I was overreacting. i prefer this thread stay out of the pit. there have been calls to pit it. i have resisted that. i am hopeful you bums can keep it up top. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) I just want to stop any racial/bigotry that may occur in this thread. Perhaps I was overreacting. Â I go by cranial shape, not skin color or ethnicity. Â The forehead of Homo genus becomes more bulgy from Homo erectus to Homo sapiens. Edited December 7, 2013 by RongzomFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) Don't tell me this is the first time you are noticing SJ. Â A lot of Buddhist authors have obviously jewish names. Â I definitely figured this out in the Insight Meditation Society. Â I go by cranial shape, not skin color or ethnicity. Â The forehead of Homo genus becomes more bulgy from Homo erectus to Homo sapiens. Â Edited December 7, 2013 by Simple_Jack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) Quest Regarding the Cause of the World – Meaningless  No question can there be regarding the time, place and cause of the origins of this world, for these themselves form parts of the world.  The question seeks to have an explanation of the whole in terms of its part. This can never be a logical question.  <snip>  Beautifully elegant  For anyone wanting to follow this up; John Levy goes into a more detailed explanation in The Nature of Man According to the Vedanta  Yeah thats typical theism.  That God in unknowable.  Thats in any church dude. Edited December 7, 2013 by RongzomFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 7, 2013 I go by cranial shape, not skin color or ethnicity. Â The forehead of Homo genus becomes more bulgy from Homo erectus to Homo sapiens. Â What does this have to do with the OP? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted December 7, 2013 very interdisciplinary of you gatito. holding to one branch of thought doesnt seem very useful from my pov. it does seem rather limiting. Â What's limiting are the double standards he's posted in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) You took the liberty to post what I said without giving me credit as if this is your own? Plagiarism! Here is the link to my post. Â http://thetaobums.com/topic/32820-debunking-a-creator/page-19#entry502404 Â Which proves that you are biased and rely on double standards. Edited December 7, 2013 by Simple_Jack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 7, 2013 I go by cranial shape, not skin color or ethnicity. Â The forehead of Homo genus becomes more bulgy from Homo erectus to Homo sapiens. Â Do you know what Phrenology is? In general that pseudoscience was used to classify race to determine superiority of a given race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 7, 2013 Â Do you know what Phrenology is? In general that pseudoscience was used to classify race to determine superiority of a given race. Of course thats bullshit. Â I'm going by the latest understanding of human evolution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted December 7, 2013 Which proves that you are biased and rely on double standards. Â What are you talking about. You quoted me claiming it was your own. Stop the incessant badgering about double standards. You plagiarized my post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites