jdabodybuilder Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) Hello everyone. I am a 26 year old. I have being masturbating and watching porn excessively since the ages of 12 through 23. When I turned 24 I started bodybuilding. Then I noticed something strange. When I would masturbate and watch porn I would have bad workouts in the gym I would feel tired and out of focus. So I cut it down to 3 to 5 times a month. Then to only 2 times a month or once every 2 weeks because the urges to do it were really strong. Now I am more disciplined and could control it. Well not really. I sometimes fall into watching porn again and end up masturbating up to 5 times in a row. Previously. After a month of not masturbating I did it again 4 days ago 3 times in a row. I felt like i was dead. Slept 15 hours and felt super weak. I' took double dosages of zinc, vitamin D, magnesium and vitamin b complex to recover quicker from lost fluids and sperm lost. So I haven't Masturbated in 4 days but the urges are there and I also feel this huge weird feeling in my stomach that feels like energy and i feel that its out of control. But when I feel this way i have really awesome work outs. I feel full of life. I do more things productively. I am in a better mood. So at least I think that's a good sign that I haven't depleted my sexual energy from excessive masturbation and watching porn. I am planning to cut off porn completely from my life and no more Masturbating. But I just hope I didn't deplete or have exhausted my sexual energy levels completely because it doesn't feel that way. As days go by though and I don't masturbate this feeling intensifies and I feel out of control I get super horny and end up watching porn and masturbating. I've being doing reading on life energy and sexual energy and it scared the crap out of me, and I feel pretty bad now that I've being doing so much damage to my self, and I had no idea. Makes me feel depress at times. Lol Watt I do notice a lot too when I feel this energy, woman smile at me or check me out a lot. When I feel drained from masturbation and feeling like there is no life in me woman don't even notice me and i somehow become socially awkward. Lol I don't know if that makes any sense. Maybe they could sense this energy? I am just trying to learn here how to harness this energy and build both life energy and sexual energy and use it into doing more important things. One of them is bodybuilding. And other important things in life. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Edited December 8, 2013 by jdabodybuilder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted December 8, 2013 Don't ever do it multiple times in a row, that's the worst thing. Develop at least enough self control to not do that. No matter what!And just tackle this very challenging subject with baby steps. Taking the drastic step of cutting out all porn and masturbation forever sounds like great advice...but it won't be great unless you are actually successful at it. If you fail, then will you fall to the depths of masturbating 5x in a row?So for one thing, maybe don't go to such extremes. Do your best only, not the impossible and not something which sets you up for failure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted December 8, 2013 Two useful threads on this topic: http://thetaobums.com/topic/26533-great-spiritual-physical-mental-benefits-from-semen-retention-celibacy-and-mental-emptiness-my-experience-and-thoughts/ http://thetaobums.com/topic/22912-semen-retention-100-days-and-my-experiences/ My 2 cents, Peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfTheGods Posted December 8, 2013 ahhhh, youth Hello everyone. I am a 26 year old. end up masturbating up to 5 times in a row. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DalTheJigsaw123 Posted January 21, 2014 I have to bump this! I'm going through exact same thing!! I NEED HELP!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yabyum24 Posted January 21, 2014 Sexual energy recovers by itself after a while. Masturbating will not "destroy" you just like that, so no need to fret about it. We collect energy from various sources - like the food we eat and the universe in general. I've personally noticed that the strongest time for energy collection is during a waxing moon - it seems to pour in. You will notice that you are stronger, there is a luster to your skin and even (bizarrely) less plaque on your teeth. If we are celibate for a while, it's like we seal the doors and the energy stays inside, if we lose it, then it's like a rupture of the astral body. You will feel more tired, irritable, drained and be prone to illness (colds etc). The astral body weakens as we age and therefore you will feel it more acutely, the older you get. The thing is, when the energy builds up to a certain level, things start to happen. Firstly, it feels a burden to carry it. Then you may also notice, erotic dreams, attractive females which flirt with you, in fact a whole host of completely unexpected and compelling events, which don't make things any easier. It seems the energy within you is straining to return to its universal source and 'summoning' or invoking such things. There is a dependent-arisen element to the mind and the objects of the senses and you can see it at work here, very clearly. We are desire-realm beings and the very gateway to this manifestation was via the sex act of our parents, thus we are corporeally and energetically formed within Maya. We are, thus, in our entirety Maya's property and breaking free takes an act of great will power. The orgasm is a pale shadow of the all-consuming bliss, which can help free us from Maya's grasp. Called the Great Bliss of Perfect Freedom, it burns away all binding karma. Perhaps we are subconsciously seeking this within every orgasm but there is no freedom, merely a very temporary relief and then the fatigue which inevitably follows. I have no easy answers to any of this, just a few observations I've gathered along the way. Seek to find something which will help you stand your ground. But mostly be aware that if you put up a fight, Maya will do all she can to harvest that which is hers. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yascra Posted January 21, 2014 Any tips would be greatly appreciated. lol Congratulations for having found out yourself that sex weakens your energy. I think cutting off porn from your life is a great idea, the kind of sexuality you see there is unhealthy anyway, and therefore is a bad example. I'd try emptiness meditation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted January 21, 2014 I have to bump this! I'm going through exact same thing!! I NEED HELP!! when the horse at the trough decides he's thirsty, he will drink. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DalTheJigsaw123 Posted January 21, 2014 Sexual energy recovers by itself after a while. Masturbating will not "destroy" you just like that, so no need to fret about it. We collect energy from various sources - like the food we eat and the universe in general. I've personally noticed that the strongest time for energy collection is during a waxing moon - it seems to pour in. You will notice that you are stronger, there is a luster to your skin and even (bizarrely) less plaque on your teeth. If we are celibate for a while, it's like we seal the doors and the energy stays inside, if we lose it, then it's like a rupture of the astral body. You will feel more tired, irritable, drained and be prone to illness (colds etc). The astral body weakens as we age and therefore you will feel it more acutely, the older you get. The thing is, when the energy builds up to a certain level, things start to happen. Firstly, it feels a burden to carry it. Then you may also notice, erotic dreams, attractive females which flirt with you, in fact a whole host of completely unexpected and compelling events, which don't make things any easier. It seems the energy within you is straining to return to its universal source and 'summoning' or invoking such things. There is a dependent-arisen element to the mind and the objects of the senses and you can see it at work here, very clearly. We are desire-realm beings and the very gateway to this manifestation was via the sex act of our parents, thus we are corporeally and energetically formed within Maya. We are, thus, in our entirety Maya's property and breaking free takes an act of great will power. The orgasm is a pale shadow of the all-consuming bliss, which can help free us from Maya's grasp. Called the Great Bliss of Perfect Freedom, it burns away all binding karma. Perhaps we are subconsciously seeking this within every orgasm but there is no freedom, merely a very temporary relief and then the fatigue which inevitably follows. I have no easy answers to any of this, just a few observations I've gathered along the way. Seek to find something which will help you stand your ground. But mostly be aware that if you put up a fight, Maya will do all she can to harvest that which is hers. One of the best replies I have ever seen! Thank you very much! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DalTheJigsaw123 Posted January 21, 2014 lol Congratulations for having found out yourself that sex weakens your energy. I think cutting off porn from your life is a great idea, the kind of sexuality you see there is unhealthy anyway, and therefore is a bad example. I'd try emptiness meditation Thank you! Any particular teacher? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DalTheJigsaw123 Posted January 21, 2014 when the horse at the trough decides he's thirsty, he will drink. I kind of get it, but would you help me a little more? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yascra Posted January 21, 2014 Thank you! Any particular teacher? Uhm, the teacher who told me this energy stuff, a teacher to teach you meditation or what for..? I could recommend some reading if you'd like to 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Songtsan Posted January 21, 2014 There is a simple scientific reason for the patterns you have noted: When a man doesn't orgasm for a while, the testosterone receptors in the brain are upregulated. Prolactin stays low. The relationship between testosterone and dopamine is significant. The end result is more confidence, more motivation, etc. as you have seen. Prolactin rises after orgasm, especially multiple ones in a short time period - this can cause depression, lethargy, etc. as prolactin can interfere with testosterone receptors and dopamine itself. Then there is also the explanation from the Taoist perspective. Once every 2 weeks is pretty much OK for someone of your age, but you can just be aware of 'when its time' by feeling alone. Relish your sexual desire - it itself is a blissful energy which increases sensuality in all areas as well as increased perceptions of beauty. Practice male kegel exercises daily - 900 short contractions and 100 long ones keep the prostate clear of fluid congestion - prostate self massage, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted January 21, 2014 I kind of get it, but would you help me a little more? cmon leon, how long have you been here, how many times have you asked this question? you already have the knowledge you seek, all you must do is employ it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eye_of_the_storm Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Edited January 23, 2014 by White Wolf Running On Air Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DalTheJigsaw123 Posted January 26, 2014 Uhm, the teacher who told me this energy stuff, a teacher to teach you meditation or what for..? I could recommend some reading if you'd like to That would be great!! If you could add a little bit more about energy, or how it connects with the whole sexual nature, that would be great! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DalTheJigsaw123 Posted January 26, 2014 cmon leon, how long have you been here, how many times have you asked this question? you already have the knowledge you seek, all you must do is employ it. LOL! You are absolutely right! But, I guess I need a reminder...As these feelings come and go, but I have started to notice patterns, thus, I need a reminder, basically shape up, or be left in the wind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites