Questions/Thoughts on Manifestation

[skydog]

So apparantely the way of heaven wants people to have challenges and struggle so they can learn and grow their hearts etc etc

 

Maybe one shouldnt intefere from a heavenly soul like perspective.

 

BUT

 

I am earth too

 

Earth is heaven too

 

I am a human too

 

I am the heart too

 

So Why should one only obey the drives of one sphere of reality

 

When there is so much suffering and pain in the world of people

 

Like humans today suffer with many things

 

and what if everyone thought, oh I shouldnt change this because it might intefere with peoples destiny

 

well i dunno, Im kind of feeling thats pretty strange

 

because Im a human with human needs too

 

To neglect ones humanity and heart and earthly needs to only adhere to the way of heaven seems wrong

 

Isnt earth and respecting the earth and the heart as important as respecting the heaven

 

Well I guess if something feels right in ones heart then it should be done.

 

How does one even know 100% what the laws of heaven and destiny are, as it is mostly based on intuition, many things that have been invented have been invented due to people having earthly needs for things, what about technology, business etc..

 

hmm

[ThisLife]

This post gave me a sudden 'deja vu' of another similarly wonderful example I came across a few years ago in a marvellous Chat Group I used to hang out in called Buddhachat'. I'll copy and paste the original post and the inspired reply, (written by a miserable but sharp-witted chap who chose the pen name Stuka)... just for a glimpse into the dynamics that exist in other chatrooms different to our beloved Taobums here :

 

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let the 4 arise

I’m looking to meet someone
split of understanding of suffering
3 noble truth
with winds of this universe
aging fire strongly dissolve in small perception
and face the suffering of noble truth
aging and death
destruction of ignorance

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REPLY :

Re: let the 4 arise

This stream of consciousness shit
is a dull tedious swim

in a cesspool of vagueness.
Speak plainly and quit twisting the Buddha’s teachings
as if they were word games
or piss off

Edited January 25, 2014 by ThisLife

[z00se]

all 3 are important, thats why the 3 are often talked about. Focusing on one will automatically bring about development of the other 2. Concentration on one brings power like a high charged cloud discharging a lightening bolt, but embracing all 3 is balance and enlightenment as it is so frequenty talked about. Only you can feel the wonders of the balance, but the power can be put on show. Its like the difference between the rat (or whatever it is) teacher and the turtle master in kung fu panda. I love that movie!

[The Prisoner]

The rules are easy. If nothing happens, you are strong and good. If you do wrong you get hurt. (There is no separation of mind and body) One Heart! :) :)

[skydog]

This stream of consciousness shit
is a dull tedious swim

in a cesspool of vagueness.
Speak plainly and quit twisting the Buddha’s teachings
as if they were word games
or piss off

 

If this is your comment to me I want to make it clear in the nicest way possible

 

I AM NO BUDDHIST
I DO NOT IDOLISE BUDDHA OR BUDDHIST DOGMA OR BUDDHIST UNNATURAL MORALITY ETC

I like nature, taoism, shamanism and thinking for myself..

 

I respect buddhists, and buddha of course, but we are not all buddhists