gatito Posted February 15, 2014 Which is John Levy's NeoAdvaita right? Wrong - as usual Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 Wrong - as usual Have you changed your mind on John Levy too? Just like Rupert Spira? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 Wrong again You believe Advaita is the core perennial truth of religion, correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted February 15, 2014 In Madhyamaka, on a conventional level, consciousness arises only if there is a meeting of a sense organ and sense object. Expositions of the "two truths" are for deluded sentient beings. That's the irrelevant bit of the whole thing. What difference does any of that make at all. This "irrelevancy" forms the entire foundation of Buddhist epistemology. From Hinayana on through to Mahayana. As I understand it, the advantage of Dzogchen etc. is that they don't entertain ontological views. They have no need to. The advantages of Vajrayana lies in its methods. If the above is unnecessarily superfluous, it's only because the paths of the 2 stages, Dzogchen, and Mahamudra are nongradual. Although, these paths dispense with the seemingly complex epistemology of sutrayana, thereby making them swifter paths, this can be deceptive. Why? Because, in the case of Dzogchen for example, not everyone is a cig car ba i.e. an instantaneous type. The majority of practitioners, fall in the category of the average and dull capacities for realization, continually refining vidya and making a graduated progression on the path. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 15, 2014 You believe Advaita is the core perennial truth of religion, correct? Incorrect again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 Incorrect again Sure Gatito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 15, 2014 Sure Gatito Yes I'm sure that you're wrong 100% certain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) Yes I'm sure that you're wrong 100% certain Read your own signature. You are stilling selling the "Direct Path Advaita" stuff Which should be called Nondirect Path, since it doesn't have direct introduction. Edited February 15, 2014 by RongzomFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 15, 2014 Read your own signature. You are stilling selling the "Direct Path Advaita" stuff Which should be called Nondirect Path, since it doesn't have direct introduction. Still incorrect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted February 15, 2014 I know, but does it quite cut it for you personally? Non-affirming negations? It's still in some way playing the ontology game it seems. Perhaps, it genuinely does for some people but for most, it's just a "better view" than those they refute. He absolutely does nail it and his demolition of the false counter arguments is a masterpiece. Nice to see the false premises in todays institutionalised, pseudoacademic "Buddhism" being demolished. Perhaps it will lead to a renaissance of the actual teachings. I'm sorry guys, but for anyone who's actually practiced vipassana according to the Pali traditions, or received empowerment and instructions from a Lama, I'm unable to fathom them taking any of these comments seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 Still incorrect You think there is a thing called Direct Path Advaita right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 15, 2014 I'm sorry guys, but for anyone who's actually practiced vipassana according to the Pali traditions, or received empowerment and instructions from a Lama, I'm unable to fathom them taking any of these comments seriously. Really? Do you imagine that I care whether you (or anyone else) takes these comments seriously? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 15, 2014 You think there is a thing called Direct Path Advaita right? Incorrect I don't "think that there's a thing called Direct Path Advaita" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 Incorrect I don't "think that there's a thing called Direct Path Advaita" Ok that's great, since it doesn't exist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted February 15, 2014 Really? Do you imagine that I care whether you (or anyone else) takes these comments seriously? It's just the fact that there are unsound and inexperienced comments coming from non-practitioners of buddhadharma in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 15, 2014 It's just the fact that there are unsound and inexperienced comments coming from non-practitioners of buddhadharma in this thread. Not a fact - just your your opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 LMAO, at you changing your profile pic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 Gatito is like Sarvepelli Radhakrishnan for the 21st century Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 15, 2014 LMAO, at you changing your profile pic Enjoy it while it lasts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 Enjoy it while it lasts So your goal is to pretend to be a Buddhist, all the while promoting Advaita? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) No I'm sorry, you believe Advaita is the essence of Buddhism per Radhakrishnan Edited February 15, 2014 by RongzomFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 15, 2014 So your goal is to pretend to be a Buddhist, all the while promoting Advaita? Incorrect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 Incorrect That means right on the money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 15, 2014 No I'm sorry, you believe Advaita is the essence of Buddhism per Radhakrishnan No That means right on the money. Incorrect means incorrect, so you're obvously incorrect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
