gatito Posted February 15, 2014 Yet, you can't overcome your own biased double standards when encountering the teachings of buddhadharma. What's up with that? Incorrect as usual and resorting to abuse as usual, which is why I no longer take either of you seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 Incorrect as usual and resorting to abuse as usual, which is why I no longer take either of you seriously. You follow "Direct Path Advaita" invented by Greg Goode, according to asunthatneversets. I can't take you seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted February 15, 2014 Incorrect as usual and resorting to abuse as usual, which is why I no longer take either of you seriously. What does it look like then when you post stuff like this? Yes. He absolutely does nail it and his demolition of the false counter arguments is a masterpiece. Nice to see the false premises in todays institutionalised, pseudoacademic "Buddhism" being demolished. Perhaps it will lead to a renaissance of the actual teachings. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 Atleast read Eckhart Tolle's Power of Now for god's sake. That's a decent read for a NeoAdvaita book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted February 15, 2014 Atleast read Eckhart Tolle's Power of Now for god's sake. That's a decent read for a NeoAdvaita book. Jim Carrey endorses Eckhart Tolle. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 Jim Carrey endorses Eckhart Tolle. That just cements it for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
asunthatneversets Posted February 15, 2014 You think this is due to the influence of his "emptiness teachings"? It could be partly due to that influence, but I know he mentioned that he came across a manuscript of Śri Atmananda's which stated something to the effect of 'In the end not even awareness remains'. So in the end there is a collapse of the awareness that the entire path is predicated upon, and Greg has stated that this matched his own experience. The depth of his knowledge regarding that system is impressive, even the absolute natures that other teachers of Vedanta posit, he is able to put those in context. It seems the majority of Vedanta teachings are instances where the instructions really don't go as far as they could, but instead get stuck in certain subtle areas which are mistaken as the end of the path. Greg does a great job with that teaching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 It could be partly due to that influence, but I know he mentioned that he came across a manuscript of Śri Atmananda's which stated something to the effect of 'In the end not even awareness remains'. So in the end there is a collapse of the awareness that the entire path is predicated upon, and Greg has stated that this matched his own experience. The depth of his knowledge regarding that system is impressive, even the absolute natures that other teachers of Vedanta posit, he is able to put those in context. It seems the majority of Vedanta teachings are instances where the instructions really don't go as far as they could, but instead get stuck in certain subtle areas which are mistaken as the end of the path. Greg does a great job with that teaching. You are just talking typical NeoAdvaita shit. One either recognizes unfabricated presence versus the conceptualizing mind. Or one doesn't. There is no middle ground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) It could be partly due to that influence, but I know he mentioned that he came across a manuscript of Śri Atmananda's which stated something to the effect of 'In the end not even awareness remains'. You don't think this is similar to Sri Nisargadatta's "nothingess" experience do you? Edited February 15, 2014 by Simple_Jack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 You don't think this is similar to Sri Nisargadatta's "nothingess" experience do you? You are just talking typical NeoAdvaita shit. One either recognizes unfabricated presence versus the conceptualizing mind. Or one doesn't. There is no middle ground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
asunthatneversets Posted February 15, 2014 You are just talking typical NeoAdvaita shit. One either recognizes unfabricated presence versus the conceptualizing mind. Or one doesn't. There is no middle ground. Yes it's Advaita, I never attempted to say otherwise. I don't practice it. I'm only involved with groups that Greg either runs himself or regularly frequents, so I read a lot of what Greg has to say, and deeply respect the man, he is an extremely kind and lovely guy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
asunthatneversets Posted February 15, 2014 You don't think this is similar to Sri Nisargadatta's "nothingess" experience do you? I wouldn't be able to say, I'm not familiar with the teachings personally. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 15, 2014 Yes it's Advaita, I never attempted to say otherwise. I don't practice it. I'm only involved with groups that Greg either runs himself or regularly frequents, so I read a lot of what Greg has to say, and deeply respect the man, he is an extremely kind and lovely guy. Spot on!! Say "Hi" from me and "thanks" when you see him next time please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 Yes it's Advaita, I never attempted to say otherwise. I don't practice it. I'm only involved with groups that Greg either runs himself or regularly frequents, so I read a lot of what Greg has to say, and deeply respect the man, he is an extremely kind and lovely guy. I can't respect a guy who comes to ME to learn about Madhyamaka. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) Forget it. Edited February 15, 2014 by Simple_Jack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) I wouldn't be able to say, I'm not familiar with the teachings personally. You know quite a lot in knowing that the Path does swallow itself up and disappears like the smile on the face of the Cheshire cat kitten Edited February 15, 2014 by gatito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 You know quite a lot in knowing that the Path does swallow itself up and disappears like the smile on the face of the Cheshire cat kitten sophistry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
asunthatneversets Posted February 15, 2014 I can't respect a guy who comes to ME to learn about Madhyamaka. I'm not sure what that means, but okay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 I'm not sure what that means, but okay. PM sent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 15, 2014 sophistry Consider yoursef ignored Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
asunthatneversets Posted February 15, 2014 What about his "emptiness teachings"? You seem to be more familiar with his work than me, so I'm wondering how his knowledge of Buddhist praxis stacks up in comparison to his knowledge on Advaita. Sri Nisargadatta says similar things to what you quoted above. Personally it sounds like the jhana of nothingness to me. His knowledge of Madhyamaka and so on is excellent. He's a fan on Tsongkhapa's Prasangika, which doesn't resonate with me as much but it is very interesting to learn about it. He has been able to give great teachings on Nāgārjuna and others as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 His knowledge of Madhyamaka and so on is excellent. Absolutely not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simple_Jack Posted February 15, 2014 What does it look like then when you post stuff like this? Yes. He absolutely does nail it and his demolition of the false counter arguments is a masterpiece. Nice to see the false premises in todays institutionalised, pseudoacademic "Buddhism" being demolished. Perhaps it will lead to a renaissance of the actual teachings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gatito Posted February 15, 2014 What does it look like then when you post stuff like this? >Yes. He absolutely does nail it and his demolition of the false counter arguments is a masterpiece. Nice to see the false premises in todays institutionalised, pseudoacademic "Buddhism" being demolished. Perhaps it will lead to a renaissance of the actual teachings. Attention seeker Ignored Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted February 15, 2014 He's a fan on Tsongkhapa's Prasangika Yeah, which makes him unknowledgeable about Madhyamaka. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
