asunthatneversets Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) I watched a couple episodes from the first season of 'It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia' last night, and one of the episodes closed with 'Forever Young'. A mild case of synchronicity perhaps! Edited February 26, 2014 by asunthatneversets 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Posted February 27, 2014 You're meaning a void where nothing is arising and the senses have receded into the substratum? Like in deep sleep? That isn't what the heart sūtra is describing. The exposition in the heart sūtra would also be considered 'primordial' as it is a definitive view according to the buddhadharma.  Hi asunthatneversets,  The meaning/realization of the emptiness described in the Heart Sutra is primordial. But, the definition is broken into various components as in the Dzogchen definition of base (void, essence and energy). Similarly, I was not talking about emptiness, but only the realization of the first part of the Heart Sutra (Form=Void). The realization of emptiness requires the additional second half of the equation (Void=Form) and the realization that both are really the same thing (which gives you "light" or essence).  Best wishes, Jeff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites