What would you ask a master?

[Captain Mar-Vell]

...

Quite so, vortex sir, quite so.

 

Super soldier serum

 

Trauma doth loosen the bonds of ignorance.

 

Technological enhancement not truly the Way.

 

Cyborg sentinels.

...

Edited March 5, 2014 by Captain Mar-Vell

[gendao]

Predictably...another free energy inventor and his family from Iran has recently gotten hacked and allegedly issued death threats from the llluminati ex-king of Belgium and others..

Learn real history and don't be naive. This is likely why and who people like Edward Leedskalnin & Mo Pai had to keep their advanced technologies secret from.

The whole park is surrounded by an 8-foot wall of coral blocks weighing 15 tons each. The largest single block in the park weighs 30 tons, and two of the monoliths are 25 feet high. But the remarkable thing about Rock Gate Park is that it was built by a single man. Over a period of 28 years, from 1923 until his death in 1951, the diminutive 5-foot-tall Edward Leedskalnin, a Latvian, worked all by himself to quarry, cut, move, and position every single coral block. Coral Castle is almost always described as a mystery; a mystery that cannot be explained.

 

But that's where the story of Coral Castle only starts to get weird. Ed wasn't just interested in moving heavy blocks of coral, he also dabbled in electricity and magnetism.

[KenBrace]

So CCIII, how did the trip go? I'm interested to hear.

[GrandmasterP]

From the book, Adventures in Qi Healing with Master Jiang it looks like he uses both Qi projection to examine his patients, and uses a needle-less acupuncture. The needle-less acupuncture is done by massaging the patients back, puncturing the skin with Qi, and using a suction cup to pull the bad blood out. One of his main healing techniques that was not shown in the videos, but was mentioned in the book, was the pills they create. The pills are a mixture of ingredients that are grown in nature, like wild ginseng, and can even include ingredients as rare as musk testicles that sell for $27,000USD.

Correct, he is from a shaolin lineage AKA shaolin Buddhism.

$27,000 is a nice piece of change for some pill ingredients. How much does he charge for those pills I wonder?

How did your trip go and what, if anything; might you be intending to offer as a result of it CCIII?

Edited March 29, 2014 by GrandmasterP

[Charles Crawford III]

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Edited April 2, 2014 by Charles Crawford III

[Charles Crawford III]

Where do I start... Well, my visa was delayed and I missed arriving at the hospital with Popa's group, but Grady agreed to introduce me to Dr. Feng Jiang.

Grady called me at my hotel telling me Jiang was back, and I walked a few blocks to the hospital. I arrived wearing my lab coat, and holding a bottle of wine as a gift. Dr. Feng Jiang was outside pruning his PenJing, with Grady and others watching. Grady smiled, and said something in Chinese to Jiang as I walked clumsily towards them. Jiang went to shake my hand, which caught me off guard, because based off Popa's book I thought he preferred a traditional bowing welcome. I fumbled with the bottle of wine, but managed to shake his hand then hand the bottle to him. I introduced myself, Grady translated, and we were brought into Jiang's office.

I asked if I could show off my device, and everyone watched as I dumped paper holes on Jiang's desk. I told Grady to start recording, and he took out his phone then gave me the ok to start. I kicked on my switch and made the paper bounce about an inch. Jiang gestured for one of the other doctors to shut off the fan that was blowing on us, and everyone moved in to get a better look, while another doctor was taking pictures of us. I was expecting a better result, but noticed Jiang's desk was separated a few inches by glass feet, and my device is less effective on insulated surfaces. I showed them my device on my lower leg, and everyone gathered around to get a better look at it.

It honestly seemed like they had never seen anything like it before. Jiang asked if I was a magician, and that he met a student of David Blaine’s that could do similar things with tricks. I told him that I was a scientist studying the effects of Qi, and that negative ions produce the same effect on paper. Jiang said he was still tired from his retreat but would try to move my paper, and joked that this should not be seen as a competition. After a few attempts he made the paper bounce about 5 inches off the table. Like this:

He then striped down to his underwear and I could see he did not have any device on his body. After that, Jiang told Grady that this video was not for public consumption, showing his modesty and understanding for curious minds. I asked why the table had glass under it, since it seemed strange; they said that when it rains there is a lot of condensation that accumulates on the floor that they have to mop up, and the glass was to protect the wooden feet. Jiang asked if my paper came with me from Florida. I said yes, and then he wrapped it in a sheet of paper, wrote something on it, and put it in his desk, while joking that now I have given him two gifts.

Next, Jiang demonstrated the sweet water effect. They brought me a sealed water bottle from the back of the room, and I was told to taste it to see that it was normal water. I asked if he could do it with the bottle still sealed. Grady said it needed to be open and have some of the water emptied out, and that he use to have to keep the lid open but now he could do it after resealing the lid. We looked for a cup and found a coffee mug with some tea still in it. Jiang dumped the tea out; I dumped some of the bottled water in the cup and tasted it. I told them it tasted like the bitter tea that was in the cup before, but we decided to continue with the sweet water test. Jiang closed the lid and shook the water. He told me to observe how the bubbles at the top of the water are large and quickly pop. With assistance of another doctor, Jiang pumped Qi into the bottle for about 5 minutes, like this:

He showed how there are tinier bubbles that do not dissipate as quickly after shaking the bottle. I tasted the water, and now there was a considerable sweeter taste to it. The water also felt finer, and made my lips feel smooth. I asked Jiang if he ever thought I could create a device that could turn water sweet, and he said no, and shook his head. I asked if I could inspect the table, they agreed but there were some locked drawers that were off limits.

Later, I was touring the hospital and asked to see the desk, to see if I could catch them off guard. I noticed the door to the office was locked, but Grady called someone over to open it. The employee did not want to open the door without Jiang’s permission because of all the valuable stones, art, books, etc., but Grady said he would take full responsibility, and the employee let us in. Grady filmed my looking all around the table for hidden devices, and grounding wires. As I was knocking on the wood, and inspecting every angle of the desk, Grady and the other Chinese employee were laughing and saying “So this is what scientists do.” Since the locked drawers were separate from the main table I am quite confident there is no trickery involved with the table.

Jiang asked me to sit down, rest my hand facing up on the tiny desk cushion, and appeared to take my pulse. I did not feel anything, so I asked Grady if he was taking my pulse, and Grady said "there is quite a bit more to it than that". Jiang told me I had a deficient stomach, kidneys, and spleen, but that there were no blockages. He could tell all that just by moving his fingers on the artery of my wrist. Since I realized he was measuring the energies of my body, I asked if he could try it again with my device turned on. He did, and said there was a constant energy on my skin, but the internal organs were not affected.

I asked if there was any research done on Dr. Feng Jiang, but without even asking Jiang, Grady told me there was none. Jiang told me that there were many more senior scientists studying Qi with no success, and that I was welcome to try. The sweet water was said to be tested before, and came back inconclusive. I asked if I could have the remaining water tested, and they agreed. I had Jiang sign and date the bottle: 3/13/14. I have since been able to find someone that would test it for free, but I am still waiting on the results. This demonstration ended with Jiang asking me to join them for dinner, and I agreed, if they had vegetarian options. No one else was vegetarian, so I think they made some special dishes just for me, and I am grateful for that. It was like a family dinner, including the caring nagging about how I am too skinny to be on a vegetarian diet. After dinner I was lucky enough to get to feel the 'electric' like Qi. He told me next time to not bring wine, but to bring another device to show off. I told him I appreciated the personal demo, and that it was easy to change the batteries on my device, but that I understood his demonstrations used up some of his vital energy that is not as easy to replace. I hope to create a device that produces an energy field, similar to his Qi, that can turn water sweet, but I will settle for building a stronger negative ion generator.

That just about sums up my experience with Dr. Feng Jiang. I was in China for a week, and this only explains one day of it. I plan to write more, but for the sake of not writing a book, I will spare you some of the detailes. I recommend you go see him yourself in China if you want to see a real Qi user.

[idiot_stimpy]

I would ask the Master 'why'?

[SonOfTheGods]

Next, Jiang demonstrated the sweet water effect.

 

Water has a crystalline structure and holds energy.

 

Thus, "holy water", and the reason Egyptians used water baptism, then other religions.

 

Any Qi practitioner can change water structure/taste, if they have been practicing for a couple of years.

 

Try it at home.

 

You can even taint it with your mood.

 

Project LOVE then project HATE, and taste the difference

 

 

[SonOfTheGods]

 

Where do I start... Well, my visa was delayed and I missed arriving at the hospital with Popa's group, but Grady agreed to introduce me to Dr. Feng Jiang.

Grady called me at my hotel telling me Jiang was back, and I walked a few blocks to the hospital. I arrived wearing my lab coat, and holding a bottle of wine as a gift. Dr. Feng Jiang was outside pruning his PenJing, with Grady and others watching. Grady smiled, and said something in Chinese to Jiang as I walked clumsily towards them. Jiang went to shake my hand, which caught me off guard, because based off Popa's book I thought he preferred a traditional bowing welcome. I fumbled with the bottle of wine, but managed to shake his hand then hand the bottle to him. I introduced myself, Grady translated, and we were brought into Jiang's office.

I asked if I could show off my device, and everyone watched as I dumped paper holes on Jiang's desk. I told Grady to start recording, and he took out his phone then gave me the ok to start. I kicked on my switch and made the paper bounce about an inch. Jiang gestured for one of the other doctors to shut off the fan that was blowing on us, and everyone moved in to get a better look, while another doctor was taking pictures of us. I was expecting a better result, but noticed Jiang's desk was separated a few inches by glass feet, and my device is less effective on insulated surfaces. I showed them my device on my lower leg, and everyone gathered around to get a better look at it.

It honestly seemed like they had never seen anything like it before. Jiang asked if I was a magician, and that he met a student of David Blaine’s that could do similar things with tricks. I told him that I was a scientist studying the effects of Qi, and that negative ions produce the same effect on paper. Jiang said he was still tired from his retreat but would try to move my paper, and joked that this should not be seen as a competition. After a few attempts he made the paper bounce about 5 inches off the table. Like this:

He then striped down to his underwear and I could see he did not have any device on his body. After that, Jiang told Grady that this video was not for public consumption, showing his modesty and understanding for curious minds. I asked why the table had glass under it, since it seemed strange; they said that when it rains there is a lot of condensation that accumulates on the floor that they have to mop up, and the glass was to protect the wooden feet. Jiang asked if my paper came with me from Florida. I said yes, and then he wrapped it in a sheet of paper, wrote something on it, and put it in his desk, while joking that now I have given him two gifts.

Next, Jiang demonstrated the sweet water effect. They brought me a sealed water bottle from the back of the room, and I was told to taste it to see that it was normal water. I asked if he could do it with the bottle still sealed. Grady said it needed to be open and have some of the water emptied out, and that he use to have to keep the lid open but now he could do it after resealing the lid. We looked for a cup and found a coffee mug with some tea still in it. Jiang dumped the tea out; I dumped some of the bottled water in the cup and tasted it. I told them it tasted like the bitter tea that was in the cup before, but we decided to continue with the sweet water test. Jiang closed the lid and shook the water. He told me to observe how the bubbles at the top of the water are large and quickly pop. With assistance of another doctor, Jiang pumped Qi into the bottle for about 5 minutes, like this:

He showed how there are tinier bubbles that do not dissipate as quickly after shaking the bottle. I tasted the water, and now there was a considerable sweeter taste to it. The water also felt finer, and made my lips feel smooth. I asked Jiang if he ever thought I could create a device that could turn water sweet, and he said no, and shook his head. I asked if I could inspect the table, they agreed but there were some locked drawers that were off limits.

Later, I was touring the hospital and asked to see the desk, to see if I could catch them off guard. I noticed the door to the office was locked, but Grady called someone over to open it. The employee did not want to open the door without Jiang’s permission because of all the valuable stones, art, books, etc., but Grady said he would take full responsibility, and the employee let us in. Grady filmed my looking all around the table for hidden devices, and grounding wires. As I was knocking on the wood, and inspecting every angle of the desk, Grady and the other Chinese employee were laughing and saying “So this is what scientists do.” Since the locked drawers were separate from the main table I am quite confident there is no trickery involved with the table.

Jiang asked me to sit down, rest my hand facing up on the tiny desk cushion, and appeared to take my pulse. I did not feel anything, so I asked Grady if he was taking my pulse, and Grady said "there is quite a bit more to it than that". Jiang told me I had a deficient stomach, kidneys, and spleen, but that there were no blockages. He could tell all that just by moving his fingers on the artery of my wrist. Since I realized he was measuring the energies of my body, I asked if he could try it again with my device turned on. He did, and said there was a constant energy on my skin, but the internal organs were not affected.

I asked if there was any research done on Dr. Feng Jiang, but without even asking Jiang, Grady told me there was none. Jiang told me that there were many more senior scientists studying Qi with no success, and that I was welcome to try. The sweet water was said to be tested before, and came back inconclusive. I asked if I could have the remaining water tested, and they agreed. I had Jiang sign and date the bottle: 3/13/14. I have since been able to find someone that would test it for free, but I am still waiting on the results. This demonstration ended with Jiang asking me to join them for dinner, and I agreed, if they had vegetarian options. No one else was vegetarian, so I think they made some special dishes just for me, and I am grateful for that. It was like a family dinner, including the caring nagging about how I am too skinny to be on a vegetarian diet. After dinner I was lucky enough to get to feel the 'electric' like Qi. He told me next time to not bring wine, but to bring another device to show off. I told him I appreciated the personal demo, and that it was easy to change the batteries on my device, but that I understood his demonstrations used up some of his vital energy that is not as easy to replace. I hope to create a device that produces an energy field, similar to his Qi, that can turn water sweet, but I will settle for building a stronger negative ion generator.

That just about sums up my experience with Dr. Feng Jiang. I was in China for a week, and this only explains one day of it. I plan to write more, but for the sake of not writing a book, I will spare you some of the detailes. I recommend you go see him yourself in China if you want to see a real Qi user.

So insulators don't block YIn

 

surprised?

[Charles Crawford III]

Water has a crystalline structure and holds energy.

 

Thus, "holy water", and the reason Egyptians used water baptism, then other religions.

 

Any Qi practitioner can change water structure/taste, if they have been practicing for a couple of years.

 

Try it at home.

 

You can even taint it with your mood.

 

Project LOVE then project HATE, and taste the difference

 

 

I have herd of being able to change water with thought so that when it freezes there are noticeable effects on the ice crystals, but changing the taste of water is a different story. I think it has less to do with thought, and more to do with the energy projected. If we could measure the energies created during his Qi emission we could create a machine to duplicate them, and have a way of sweetening water without artificial chemical sweeteners, and sugar.

 

 

So insulators don't block YIn

 

surprised?

I did not even mention Yin. Where did you get this idea?

[GrandmasterP]

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sai/DrYan_qi.htm

 

Are you familiar with the Yan Xin corpus Charles?

There's some published work in refereed journals out there on Qi effects on water.

As far as seed funding for your own device is concerned, if it does what you hope it will then possibly James Randi's skeptic organisation one million dollars 'challenge' might be worth looking into.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge

Edited April 2, 2014 by GrandmasterP

[SonOfTheGods]

I have herd of being able to change water with thought so that when it freezes there are noticeable effects on the ice crystals, but changing the taste of water is a different story. I think it has less to do with thought, and more to do with the energy projected. If we could measure the energies created during his Qi emission we could create a machine to duplicate them, and have a way of sweetening water without artificial chemical sweeteners, and sugar.

 

 

I did not even mention Yin. Where did you get this idea?

negative ions

[dee]

What color is the sky?

[MooNiNite]

 

him I appreciated the personal demo, and that it was easy to change the batteries on my device, but that I understood his demonstrations used up some of his vital energy that is not as easy to replace. I hope to create a device that produces an energy field, similar to his Qi, that can turn water sweet, but I will settle for building a stronger negative ion generator.

That just about sums up my experience with Dr. Feng Jiang. I was in China for a week, and this only explains one day of it. I plan to write more, but for the sake of not writing a book, I will spare you some of the detailes. I recommend you go see him yourself in China if you want to see a real Qi user.

 

It's quite complex. He was not using thought or intention when projecting.

 

The effect of Jiang's energy on the water has to do with his personality. Everyone's energy has different properties. A different disciple would have a different effect on the water. Such as increasing its quantity.

Edited April 4, 2014 by MooNiNite

[Charles Crawford III]

It's quite complex. He was not using thought or intention when projecting.

 

The effect of Jiang's energy on the water has to do with his personality. Everyone's energy has different properties. A different disciple would have a different effect on the water. Such as increasing its quantity.

You have been watching too much Hunter X Hunter...

 

 

I think this anime did a good job of researching real Qi users, but in real life it is quite different than this.

[MooNiNite]

You have been watching too much Hunter X Hunter...

 

 

I think this anime did a good job of researching real Qi users, but in real life it is quite different than this.

 

it's my favorite. Don't be too quick to judge though, the creator did extensive research on the occult growing up.

[MooNiNite]

someday over the rainbow.

Edited April 4, 2014 by MooNiNite

[Green Tiger]

 

Jiang asked me to sit down, rest my hand facing up on the tiny desk cushion, and appeared to take my pulse. I did not feel anything, so I asked Grady if he was taking my pulse, and Grady said "there is quite a bit more to it than that". Jiang told me I had a deficient stomach, kidneys, and spleen, but that there were no blockages. He could tell all that just by moving his fingers on the artery of my wrist. Since I realized he was measuring the energies of my body, I asked if he could try it again with my device turned on. He did, and said there was a constant energy on my skin, but the internal organs were not affected.

 

Sounds like a fun trip.

 

Did he perform any sort of healing on you, that you are aware of?

Edited April 4, 2014 by Green Tiger

[Charles Crawford III]

Sounds like a fun trip.

 

Did he perform any sort of healing on you, that you are aware of?

He said I had a weak stomach, kidneys, and spleen, but could be corrected with some herbal tea. The main thing they look for is large imbalances, and blockages. I am not aware of any illnesses that I was treated for, but he might have changed something during the diagnoses and just did not worry me about it. I feel like I am in perfect health, and did not see Dr. Feng Jiang for medical attention. I wanted to study Qi, and witness it for myself.

[Charles Crawford III]

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sai/DrYan_qi.htm

 

Are you familiar with the Yan Xin corpus Charles?

There's some published work in refereed journals out there on Qi effects on water.

As far as seed funding for your own device is concerned, if it does what you hope it will then possibly James Randi's skeptic organisation one million dollars 'challenge' might be worth looking into.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge

Yan Xin is mentioned a lot in the book Scientific Exploration of Qigong. I brought that book with me to China, and Dr. Feng Jiang saw Yan Xin's picture in the book and said that they met. Thanks for the link, I will read that article. Yan Xin has done many experiments to study the effects of Qi. The book does lack an explanation for how he gathers the energy, and does not have a hypotheses for what causes Qi emissions. I am sure that once this gets into the hands of some serious scientists in the west, we will start seeing results.

I am familiar with James Randi's Million dollar challenge. My only concern is that Randy will not live long enough to see a westerner emit Qi. My device would not qualify. I am not trying to do anything supernatural, I am trying to replicate an energy field that turns water sweet.

[GrandmasterP]

Gotta be good.

Anything that cuts down on sugar is a sure fire winner.

[Captain Mar-Vell]

...

You know, I had convinced myself the less than amazing Randi had passed over a couple of years ago.

 

It must be the Ernest Borgnine/Jack Palance effect.

 

If anyone thinks Randi and his offer genuine, they might give it some serious thought.

 

SOTG seems to be doing more direct manifestations than anyone.

 

I guess a million dollars ain't so much money these days.

 

One last thing.

 

My guess is that Randi is a genuine adept jus' keepin' da dumb muggles in da dark.

 

Ha ha ha!

...

Edited April 5, 2014 by Captain Mar-Vell

[KenBrace]

...

You know, I had convinced myself the less than amazing Randi had passed over a couple of years ago.

 

It must be the Ernest Borgnine/Jack Palance effect.

 

If anyone thinks Randi and his offer genuine, they might give it some serious thought.

 

SOTG seems to be doing more direct manifestations than anyone.

 

I guess a million dollars ain't so much money these days.

 

One last thing.

 

My guess is that Randi is a genuine adept jus' keepin' da dumb muggles in da dark.

 

Ha ha ha!

...

 

Honestly Randi is doing much more good than he is bad. 99.99999% of people who claim to be able to talk to the dead, have psychic powers, can tell the future, etc. are a bunch of retards and complete frauds. Randi does an excellent job in my opinion of weeding these frauds and deluded people out of the public so that everyone knows they are fake and there is no longer a risk of them misleading people and scamming them out of their money.

Edited April 5, 2014 by KenBrace

[MooNiNite]

Randi is lame, he pays people is some weird form of Bonds

[GrandmasterP]

Randi is one of the good guys IMO.

Not only does he debunk bogus psychics he's inadvertently helped to create some too..

His book 'Flim Flam' has never been out of print and is a manual for bogus psychics to this day.

Anybody wants to learn how to do 'cold reading' and pass them-self off as a psychic- consultant need look no further.

Randi sets it all out like a 'how to' manual.

Edited April 5, 2014 by GrandmasterP