Witch's "Orgasmic Diet"

[Yoda]

So I got a copy of Witch's "Orgasmic Diet" available on amazon. It got some killer reviews and I appreciated her book tour here at taobums, so I decided to check it out.

 

Haven't read it all yet, but I've enjoyed it. It's all about upping dopamine levels by increasing fish oil intake and dark chocolate, reducing caffeine and junk carbs and antidepressants.

 

It contrasts with "Peace Between the Sheets" by Robinson which tries to lower dopamine and raise oxytocin the companionship neurotransmitter.

 

Here's a quote from a woman who has tried the diet: "I was 48 when I started (now 50). I have always had a high libido and enjoyed sex. I only ever climaxed through clitoral stimulation and never during intercourse, but it never bothered me... over the previous couple of years though I discovered that I was gradually losing clitoral sensitivity. I believed it was related to perimenopause. After some time on the Orgasmic Diet, I began to regain a little clitoral sensitivity, the the more remarkable thing was that I started having vaginal/g-spot orgasms including ejaculatory and spontaneous ones. This was entirely new for me. I can tell in the morning if I forgot to take the fish oil the night before--I miss my usual morning libido surge!"

 

I'm not a huge fan of the recommended Zone diet, and the book is geared for women, but I think the recommendations can be adapted for men. For instance, doing tailbone contractions instead of using a gyneflex, porn instead of chocolate, etc.

[Taomeow]

So I got a copy of Witch's "Orgasmic Diet" available on amazon. It got some killer reviews and I appreciated her book tour here at taobums, so I decided to check it out.

 

Haven't read it all yet, but I've enjoyed it. It's all about upping dopamine levels by increasing fish oil intake and dark chocolate, reducing caffeine and junk carbs and antidepressants.

 

It contrasts with "Peace Between the Sheets" by Robinson which tries to lower dopamine and raise oxytocin the companionship neurotransmitter.

 

Here's a quote from a woman who has tried the diet: "I was 48 when I started (now 50). I have always had a high libido and enjoyed sex. I only ever climaxed through clitoral stimulation and never during intercourse, but it never bothered me... over the previous couple of years though I discovered that I was gradually losing clitoral sensitivity. I believed it was related to perimenopause. After some time on the Orgasmic Diet, I began to regain a little clitoral sensitivity, the the more remarkable thing was that I started having vaginal/g-spot orgasms including ejaculatory and spontaneous ones. This was entirely new for me. I can tell in the morning if I forgot to take the fish oil the night before--I miss my usual morning libido surge!"

 

I'm not a huge fan of the recommended Zone diet, and the book is geared for women, but I think the recommendations can be adapted for men. For instance, doing tailbone contractions instead of using a gyneflex, porn instead of chocolate, etc.

 

I've studied cognitive neuroscience and, at one point, did undertake figuring out specifically which natural substances affect the dopaminergic pathways and receptors. The ones known to the above science were, in the order of decreasing efficiency:

 

opiates (and a plethora of street drugs)

nicotine

caffeine

chocolate

Fava beans (and a couple more exotic ones)

 

In addition, there's "semi-natural" ways (i.e. natural substances in unnatural amounts) to address one's dopaminergic system with combinations of certain free form amino acids -- e.g., l-tryptophan with dl-phenylalanine with l-tyrosine, give or take an ingredient (these cocktails are more efficient if put together individually, with a good understanding of the underlying problem and the "where do we want to go from here" dynamics.)

 

I know this and that about fish oil as well, and what it will generate in the body by way of neurotransmitters is some neuroendocrine prostaglandins. It may also be useful to facilitate neuronal conductivity since if you have enough in your diet (more than enough will merely act as a good laxative -- also useful of course for people who are any which way constipated, including sexually) -- as I was saying, if you get enough it will be utilized by the brain to form an insulating sheath on the neuronal dendrites, so that any and all impulses will have an easier time traveling between synapses (twelve times faster, and with less dissipating noise, than those of the chronically deficient folks). However, there's absolutely no dopamine in fish oil, nor specific affinity to the dopaminergic system, and things it will smooth out are overall-health related. Orgasmic success is, of course, overall-health-related as well, so if one is looking at this part of the picture specifically, one might notice some improvement. Although I do think constipation will be relieved too, and dry skin, and brittle bones, and what-not... As for antidepressants, they destroy sex whether they affect the dopaminergic system or not. As for avoidance of caffeine... wrong move. Strong black coffee is sexy. As for junk carbs, they aren't good for anyone for any purpose. As for dark chocolate... does nothing for me, because its theobromine et al are sometimes converted to dopamine in some people but not all the time and not in all people, and my brain obviously doesn't know how to do it. As for nicotine... the safest way to keep one's dopaminergic system in good repair, but the current belief system has taught everybody not to. As for street drugs, they just burn the freakin' dopamine receptors to cinders in a very short time so I wouldn't go there. As for fava beans -- surprisingly efficient! -- that's because they have straight-up dopamine, no additional metobolic steps necessary. As for the best aphrodisiac I know of experientially --

it's being madly in love with someone intensely sexy.

Edited July 18, 2007 by Taomeow

[三江源]

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Edited October 27, 2015 by 三江源

[Lozen]

Orange juice is also dopaminergic.

[Yoda]

Cat-

 

I just started taking a tablespoon of Carlsons a day.

 

 

 

Interesting thoughts, y'all!

 

I just finished the book... it's got a lot of recommendations that might be a bit hard to follow 100% but she suggests experimenting with each step at a time to see what you think. It's a lot of fish oil it's 4.5 grams of the DHA and EFA combined for a 170lb individual.

 

-Yoda

[Taomeow]

As an aside:

 

I'm a big believer in high fat diets in general being very healthy, provided one chooses one's fats wisely. Good fats to choose are animal fat (known to our overwhelmingly slender great-grandmothers as lard) from healthy animals, butter and ghee (ditto), unmolested and very fresh vegetable oils (but not for cooking except with coconut, sesame, or palm oils, and excluding GM oils like canola and corn), fish oil; and strict avoidance of margarine and all refined, hydrogenated, partially hydrogenated, and toxic-source oils (like grapeseed oil which comes exclusively from heavily sprayed crops of grapes, peanut oil for the same reason, and anything else you can't find in its organic unrefined cold-pressed incarnation. Oils and fats absorb toxic chemicals like a sponge.) I've maintained a high-fat diet since I was a teenager, and I have never experienced any body shape fluctuations and have never gained an ounce since I stopped growing. I have never experienced any diet-mediated hormonal fluctuations either, except in the one year when I experimented with vegetarianism on low fat. The vegetarian/low fat diet made me first self-righteous, then bitchy, then energy-depleted, but within a week of resuming my normal eating, I was cured.

Edited July 18, 2007 by Taomeow

[Lozen]

What Taomeow said!!

 

I do also use olive oil to cook with, however.

 

A good web page: http://www.beyondveg.com/

[Yoda]

So from my last few days of experimenting, the Witch Diet does what it says it does. I'm sure it gets more powerful over time too.

 

The next question is is this a good thing?? I've been reading up on the research and not enough dopamine and mice get otherworldly as they don't get around to eating and too much and they are little sex fiends. Got to find the right balance point.

 

The right balance point is probably the one that everyone is at naturally right now and supported by their habitual diet and lifestyle.

 

Tweaking it just a bit probably can't hurt, though...

 

Yoda

[Trunk]

ghee (ditto),

Occasionally I'll go to the Indian market and stock up on ghee and coconut oil. Love 'm both.

(Coconut oil is also great externally.)

 

Plenty of stuff on the web about coconut oil being another miracle food:

http://www.coconutdiet.com/

 

http://coconutoil.com/

[Trunk]

(added links)

So I got a copy of Witch's "Orgasmic Diet" available on amazon. It got some killer reviews and I appreciated her book tour here at taobums, so I decided to check it out.

... It's all about upping dopamine levels by ...

 

It contrasts with "Peace Between the Sheets" by Robinson which tries to lower dopamine and raise oxytocin the companionship neurotransmitter.

Seems like the purpose of "Orgasmic Diet" is pretty clear...

But I'm not clear about the other: Does Robinson's diet work to quiet the lower centered drive somewhat? And increase what we might call the "heart centered" feelings? Did you find Robinson's book to be well done?

 

~ later edit ~

I read the reviews at amazon: ?'s answered.

[witch]

My ears were burning!

 

Taomeow, fish oil does in fact raise dopamine levels in the brain, and I have the rodent autopsy studies to prove it. They are referenced in the appendix of my book.

 

I would love hearing feedback from anyone who has tried the diet. For men, no iron supplements and the Aneros will work like the Gyneflex, although all you tantric men here probably don't need all that, you probably already have very strong PC muscles (or technically BC muscles in men).

 

And I would definitely argue that my diet is very heart-centered. I have usually have at least one heart chakra orgasm a day.

 

So from my last few days of experimenting, the Witch Diet does what it says it does. I'm sure it gets more powerful over time too.

 

The next question is is this a good thing?? I've been reading up on the research and not enough dopamine and mice get otherworldly as they don't get around to eating and too much and they are little sex fiends. Got to find the right balance point.

 

The right balance point is probably the one that everyone is at naturally right now and supported by their habitual diet and lifestyle.

 

Tweaking it just a bit probably can't hurt, though...

 

Yoda

 

It does get more powerful over time. I have been on the diet for nine years. Do you see why my energy rose so easily, without instruction or effort?

 

And any advice on how I should proceed?

Edited July 27, 2007 by witch

[Taomeow]

Taomeow, fish oil does in fact raise dopamine levels in the brain, and I have the rodent autopsy studies to prove it. They are referenced in the appendix of my book.

 

 

So it raises dopamine levels in rodents? I believe it. Here's why I'm not so sure about humans:

 

I come from Russia where pretty much every child of my generation was dosed with fish oil once or twice daily, it was mandatory -- especially in my family, with a pediatrician aunt supervising my nutrition/supplementation and a nurse grandmother administering it. (And, yes, they learned nutrition in med school and in nursing school, respectively, unlike MDs and nurses in this country.) I was supposed to take it using a "dessert" spoon (middle of the road in size between a teaspoon and a tablespoon) and it was strictly enforced (which it had to be, since I hated it, like most children do -- talk to any compatriot of mine aged over thirty and there's a 95% chance that they will shudder the moment you ask them if they had to drink spoonfuls of fish oil as kids.) There were multiple reasons for the practice, good ones all of them, but enhancing sexuality in three-year-olds wasn't one of them, I'm pretty sure.

 

Incidentally, old medical books from all over the world advise fish oil intake on a regular basis in doses close to what I was getting, give or take, and consider it an obligatory supplement for growing children. The practice used to be part of medical standard in this country too -- e.g., I have an American medical encyclopedia from 1850 that spells out why it's such a good idea.

 

However, the point is somewhat moot, because orgasmic pleasure is contingent on dozens of psychochemical reactions, not just on dopamine, and not even "primarily" dopamine. (Of course abnormally low dopamine levels will damage or destroy it, but that's a different issue.) If we talk hormonal back-up (which is not the whole story in any event), what makes or breaks orgasmic pleasure (I'm talking quality, not quantity) is the total workings of the whole hypothalamo-pituitary-reproductive hormonal axis, what we taoists would call "Kidney Yin Fluids."

 

By the way, just the other day I saw a movie by the same title, Dopamine -- you might want to check it out!

[witch]

It also used to be standard practice in America to dose children with cod liver oil, which is fish oil with Vitamin A and D. Our grandmothers were smart. The difference is the dosage. A tablespoon of cod liver oil gives a small fraction of the EPA and DHA I am recommending. It is enough for improved health and intelligence, but not enough for the sexual reaction.

 

And of course you are right about other things contributing to sexuality, and if you read my book you will see I agree with you. The fish oil will not work if the other things are wonky. But there aren't dozens--physiology-wise. Assuming a base of general good health, there are four things women need--high dopamine/moderate serotonin, good hormonal balance (in particular high free testosterone), good genital circulation, and decent PC muscle tone. That's all a woman needs. My book instructs women on how to achieve these things. It just takes some minor tweaking for most women, although some do need hormone replacement therapy.

 

I didn't come here to promote my book, though, although I'm certainly pleased! To be honest I came here looking for a sex partner who could match me. Also I needed answers on what was happening to me, with my chakras. Having a crown chakra orgasm was wonderful, but disconcerting. I like sixth chakra orgasms the best, and I was looking for a man who could give them to me.

 

You are a wise person and I respect your opinion very much. But in this small area I am quite certain of my ground and my science, kind of an idiot savante. And sure it might not be right to take it to the extreme I have, but I think a lot of people, women in particular, do benefit from increasing libido and sexual ability.

[Yoda]

Trunk,

 

I read the reviews at amazon: ?'s answered.

 

What was the answer? (It's been awhile since I've read PBTS... I felt that book had some really good insights but I felt that it didn't have the whole picture somehow.)

 

~~~

 

Witch,

 

Have you quit your day job yet? 6,900th in sales at Amazon totally rocks!! I just reviewed it for you. Once your reviews start coming in and you go paperback, you'll be top 3,000 easy. I'll update my review when I've had more time in the saddle, so to speak.

 

So I'm trying to get used to decaf tea in the meantime. There's still some caffeine in there... do you have to be 100% strict? (actually, you answered this in the book... no, but every little bit helps). And I'm phasing back to drinking milk rather than soy milk. Even without following everything, the insights are still very helpful.

 

-Yoda

[witch]

Have you quit your day job yet? 6,900th in sales at Amazon totally rocks!! I just reviewed it for you. Once your reviews start coming in and you go paperback, you'll be top 3,000 easy. I'll update my review when I've had more time in the saddle, so to speak.

 

So I'm trying to get used to decaf tea in the meantime. There's still some caffeine in there... do you have to be 100% strict? (actually, you answered this in the book... no, but every little bit helps). And I'm phasing back to drinking milk rather than soy milk. Even without following everything, the insights are still very helpful.

 

-Yoda

 

It doesn't work like that. The amazon listings are very volatile, basically what has sold in the last few days, and it doesn't need all that many books to hit a high number. Actually after the NY Times reviewed my book my amazon listing hit 1400 and now it's dropping fast. The only way to get sustained sales over time is to gain acceptance online as something that works. So I'm hoping that will happen, because the diet does work.

 

I only make about a dollar a book, and I would have to go into a second edition to see that dollar--my profits for the first edition were eaten up by my advance (which was modest). I make a lot more money at my programming job.

 

The book really was a labor of love and I am promoting it because I want to help women, otherwise it wouldn't be worth the public humiliation.

 

I think it might be useful to taoists, if sexual energy is the raw material you work with. I am quite certain that the diet will be much more effective for taoists than looking at porn, for instance! What my diet can give is a strong energy; how a person uses that energy is for taoist teachers to say. I just know things about the root, the beginning.

[Yoda]

I thought it was awesome of you to make those discoveries and share them and I'm sure it'll be a huge success in both spiritual and material ways for you. It's great to see you checking up on us too!

[Trunk]

The only way to get sustained sales over time is to gain acceptance online as something that works. So I'm hoping that will happen, because the diet does work.

These threads will get read and re-read, and your honesty comes across - but it's pretty rare that the title and link to your book shows up. Advice: Go to your TaoBums profile and put a link to your book in your "signature" and your book-hits originating from this site will increase 100x.

[Yoda]

These threads will get read and re-read, and your honesty comes across - but it's pretty rare that the title and link to your book shows up. Advice: Go to your TaoBums profile and put a link to your book in your "signature" and your book-hits originating from this site will increase 100x.

 

Great idea! Second that.

[witch]

I couldn't get a link to work in my signature. I feel a little foolish with this, but as long as the board doesn't mind, thanks!

[Yoda]

Witch,

 

Your signature line looks good!

 

When we see you demo-ing your higher chakra orgasms on Oprah, we Taobums can know we played our little part!

 

*Yoda chugs another bottle...*

 

Seriously though, it's marketing time, girl!! Don't feel foolish about that... selling it aggressively isn't about the money... it's for the sake of a kinder, gentler America. I would order up all those "how to publicize your book" books and start working the AM talk shows!

 

But even if you let your book fend for itself, I think word will get out.

 

Yours,

Yoda

 

 

PS, my vitamin pill does have a bit of iron in it. Nix it?

[witch]

I have a British and two American publicists. They have tried to get me on the morning talk shows. I have done about thirty radio interviews and some magazine interviews. So I've done all the regular things--actually getting reviewed by the Times and the NYTimes is doing pretty well, according to traditional publicity paths. I've tried to keep the tantric stuff on the downlow; I'm freaky enough as it is. Like in my book, I toned it waaaay down. It doesn't matter anyhow. With my diet if a woman takes it all the way and begins having spontaneous orgasms, the energy rises automatically, I don't need to talk about it, except for a general caution that it might happen so women don't freak out when it does happen.

 

Iron in your multi I suppose is fine, as long as it is less than the RDA. Men don't generally need extra iron. The extra iron I recommend in my book is for women able to menstruate.

 

This forum drives me bananas. I know all the men here don't fall into these three categories but a lot do. There are men who are basically trying to improve sexual stamina and ability, and those are fine, but like using a Strad as a doorstop. Then there are the PUA men who want the power, for what? To get as large a variety of tang under their belt as they can. Not that there's anything wrong with that either, but it is irksome to use something so valuable for something so trivial. And then there are the chi-hoarding guys chasing after martial arts power and crown chakra orgasms and enlightenment. But once you are enlightened and know what's what, why keep repeating? Why not put that chi to good use, by satisfying a woman? And sure it's good to be able to develop your body so you can break a guy's arm in three places or defend yourself against a gang of five, but in this day and age it's all for show. If someone is really out to rob you or whatever they will bring a gun.

 

A dragon flying straight is unlucky--a coiled dragon shows the way chi should flow. Like this-- 8. Exchange it back and forth for goodness sake. The last man I was with had martial arts training and sent his chi into me during sex when he ejaculated and it felt like a grenade going off inside me. Each time I returned it by having a heart chakra orgasm into his chest, and his chi was replenished. He didn't have sixth chakra ability and that's fine, but the men here who do don't seem to be interested in giving it to a woman that way, and it mystifies and annoys me. I mean I've found someone who does, so it's not personally frustrating to me the way it was, but I just don't get it. Maybe I'm misunderstanding or getting it all wrong, but this place makes me hot-tempered.

Edited July 29, 2007 by witch

[mYTHmAKER]

PS, my vitamin pill does have a bit of iron in it. Nix it?

 

Nix the iron. Added iron is no good - forget the RDA requirements.

Check out Dr Fuhrmans web site.

Look at his specially formulated vitamins.

He shows whats in them and WHY

and what's not in them and WHY.

Even if you don't buy them it's good information.

Edited July 29, 2007 by mYTHmAKER

[xenolith]

To be honest I came here looking for a sex partner who could match me.

Marrena my dear, Trunk has (subsequent to the above referenced quote) complimented you on your honesty, let us endeavor to not make a liar of him...you were invited to The Tao Bums by me out of my interest in exposing a friend to information pertaining to manipulation of the MCO and achievement of CCOs in the hope that you might become better informed regarding these matters. To my dismay, such has not been provided here. That unfortunateness is another subject. Nonetheless, you have my most sincere wishes for continued success in all that you pursue and, if indeed you've enabled yourself for engagement with a SKF master, for one to engage you.

 

Love.

 

xeno

[witch]

Xenolith, while you did invite me and I did initially post to find out what the heck was going on with my body, I assure you I also had ulterior motives. I refer you to my myspace blog to show I am telling the truth.

 

My old myspace blog

 

I also point out I posted with a younger, thinner, prettier picture of myself to see if anyone would bite (because I can always lose weight).

 

(made the pertinent posts public so everyone could read them.)

Edited July 30, 2007 by witch

[lino]

So I got a copy of Witch's "Orgasmic Diet" available on amazon. It got some killer reviews and I appreciated her book tour here at taobums, so I decided to check it out.

 

Haven't read it all yet, but I've enjoyed it. It's all about upping dopamine levels by increasing fish oil intake and dark chocolate, reducing caffeine and junk carbs and antidepressants.

 

It contrasts with "Peace Between the Sheets" by Robinson which tries to lower dopamine and raise oxytocin the companionship neurotransmitter.

 

Here's a quote from a woman who has tried the diet: "I was 48 when I started (now 50). I have always had a high libido and enjoyed sex. I only ever climaxed through clitoral stimulation and never during intercourse, but it never bothered me... over the previous couple of years though I discovered that I was gradually losing clitoral sensitivity. I believed it was related to perimenopause. After some time on the Orgasmic Diet, I began to regain a little clitoral sensitivity, the the more remarkable thing was that I started having vaginal/g-spot orgasms including ejaculatory and spontaneous ones. This was entirely new for me. I can tell in the morning if I forgot to take the fish oil the night before--I miss my usual morning libido surge!"

 

I'm not a huge fan of the recommended Zone diet, and the book is geared for women, but I think the recommendations can be adapted for men. For instance, doing tailbone contractions instead of using a gyneflex, porn instead of chocolate, etc.

 

Dark Chocolate is higher in antioxidants than blueberries.

 

I've experimented with a collagen supplement called "aminosculpt" which is marketed for weightloss. I think that it is stronger and more effective than N.O., at the same time it doesn't congest my throat that NO causes me.