maheosphet Posted April 1, 2014 Hi, I have been practicing internal alchemy and believe to made it to level 4, or combined the energies into a central location. What happened was I was sinking the fire into the LDT, and it began shooting out the third eye filling the body with warmth, and also there is access to this sort of energy from the UDT that fills the entire body, and feels electrical. I'm not sure what kind of chi it is but would like to find out more. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Wu Ming Jen Posted April 1, 2014 Fire rises and water sinks so the descending channel is associated with water front of the body and the ascending channel up the back is associated with fire so your post is confusing to me. Sink chi to the LDT, Water sinks to the sea of chi 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaguaKicksAss Posted April 1, 2014 I miss Teknix.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maheosphet Posted April 2, 2014 Fire rises and water sinks so the descending channel is associated with water front of the body and the ascending channel up the back is associated with fire so your post is confusing to me. Sink chi to the LDT, Water sinks to the sea of chi It's more of a functional/governor sort of deal. There is also this fire that lit within the eyes. I miss Teknix.... Who, this guy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aeran Posted April 2, 2014 ^ I'm confused, what 'evidence' are we supposed to be looking at there? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wells Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) Who, this guy? A deluded person...and perhaps additionally on drugs. The goosebumps dude should claim it! Edited April 2, 2014 by Dorian Black Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aeran Posted April 2, 2014 Still not sure what the goosebumps thing is about, but the Randi challenge is meaningless BS. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maheosphet Posted April 2, 2014 A deluded person...and perhaps additionally on drugs. That is possible, maybe we are all deluded and there is no immortality or level 4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maheosphet Posted April 2, 2014 Fire rises and water sinks so the descending channel is associated with water front of the body and the ascending channel up the back is associated with fire so your post is confusing to me. Sink chi to the LDT, Water sinks to the sea of chi I agree with you, fire tends to rise, but it isn't "restricted" to rise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maheosphet Posted April 2, 2014 Fire an water are both found in the functional channel, or the front channel, the fire is held below the water to create a steam that evaporates as spirit energy to accumulate at the seat of the soul. The combining happens when the LDT is filled with fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wu Ming Jen Posted April 2, 2014 The furnace of attention, not too hot, not too cold regulated with the bellows. When fire is bellow water it needs a vessel with lid to regulate water not evaporating or spilling out to put out fire.The two elements are moving in different directions this produces the steam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maheosphet Posted April 2, 2014 The lid is new to me, will you elaborate? Personally I continually stoke the fire, so to speak, or it's hot enough that water doesn't put it out, perhaps fire is dominant? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfTheGods Posted April 2, 2014 Hi, I have been practicing internal alchemy and believe to made it to level 4, or combined the energies into a central location. How? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) Maheosphet welcome to TTB. Do you have a Mo Pai or Nei Gong cultivation manual that indicates the " Level 4" you believe that you may have reached? If so, where did you get it and how much did it cost please? Edited April 2, 2014 by GrandmasterP 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wu Ming Jen Posted April 2, 2014 The lid is new to me, will you elaborate? Personally I continually stoke the fire, so to speak, or it's hot enough that water doesn't put it out, perhaps fire is dominant? like the light of awareness put it in a lantern so the "wind" wont blow it out. Water comes up to temp quicker with a lid and produces steam instead of just boiling away. speaking metaphorical of course. People get fired up easily and if they do not keep their emotions cool, turn to smoke and ash not pleasant to be around.Joyful, calm and collected people have ten thousand friends. This alchemy benefits everyone and all things not only the person practicing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maheosphet Posted April 2, 2014 Maheosphet welcome to TTB. Do you have a Mo Pai or Nei Gong cultivation manual that indicates the " Level 4" you believe that you may have reached? If so, where did you get it and how much did it cost please? Here it begins: http://www.amazon.com/Taoist-Yoga-Immortality-Charles-Luk/dp/0877280673 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maheosphet Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) How? How is complicated, it requires activated unnattached energy centers in simultaneous awareness. Each center needs freedom, and all have to be useable at the same time. So you begin working with each individually, and freeing it individually, then activating or juggling them together and moving them together, then combining. Edited April 2, 2014 by maheosphet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted April 2, 2014 Here it begins: http://www.amazon.com/Taoist-Yoga-Immortality-Charles-Luk/dp/0877280673 Thank you. That looks to be a most interesting book. Wishing you every success with your cultivation. If you can find a teacher then so much the better as a teacher can help and correct us whereas a book cannot do that 'there and then'. However not everyone has access to teachers so books or CDs are the best 'second best'. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MERCELESS ONE Posted April 2, 2014 Here it begins: http://www.amazon.com/Taoist-Yoga-Immortality-Charles-Luk/dp/0877280673 i recomend anyone to check this book out. ive been reading and rereading this book for abou 6 months now and its one of the best and most practical of all the books ive read. dont knock it till you try it... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfTheGods Posted April 3, 2014 i recomend anyone to check this book out. ive been reading and rereading this book for abou 6 months now and its one of the best and most practical of all the books ive read. dont knock it till you try it... His 2nd book too 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SonOfTheGods Posted April 3, 2014 Vague and............................................................................................. well, I'm not going to touch this one- because I post stuff that I am sure others doubt too so I leave a good message: How is complicated, it requires activated unnattached energy centers in simultaneous awareness. Each center needs freedom, and all have to be useable at the same time. So you begin working with each individually, and freeing it individually, then activating or juggling them together and moving them together, then combining. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maheosphet Posted April 3, 2014 Maybe you would be best suited to find a teacher to teach it to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sifu ReL Posted April 3, 2014 why chase mo pai.gengmenpai has dr . jiangwho can get you the bull qi you guys want so much. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
