Ten Evils (Zhong) Taoist

[MooNiNite]

Zhong Lu Chuan Dao Ji - Wang Liping 2nd book pg 329

 

 

 

 

"Then there are ten places of Yang energy, Three clear jade emperors, four gods and seven Yao(bright), five mountain spirits and eight kinds all commanding with difniaty and moderations, flying back and forth. We recognize these but don't identify them as the evil saints."

 

 

"Imagine soldiers and horses, shiny weapons and straight spears, bows and arrows at the ready, poised to fight and kill, we recognize these but don't identify these as armed soldiers of evil."

 

 

 

Can someone explain why these visions are evil? and detour one from progressing?

 

maybe i'm missing something obvious.

[SonOfTheGods]

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Edited April 5, 2014 by SonOfTheGods

[ChiDragon]

Zhong Lu Chuan Dao Ji - Wang Liping 2nd book pg 329

 

 

 

 

"Then there are ten places of Yang energy, Three clear jade emperors, four gods and seven Yao(bright), five mountain spirits and eight kinds all commanding with difniaty and moderations, flying back and forth. We recognize these but don't identify them as the evil saints."

 

 

"Imagine soldiers and horses, shiny weapons and straight spears, bows and arrows at the ready, poised to fight and kill, we recognize these but don't identify these as armed soldiers of evil."

 

 

 

Can someone explain why these visions are evil? and detour one from progressing?

 

maybe i'm missing something obvious.

 

I have no idea what the former was trying to say. The latter is saying that good soldiers always fight for a good cause. Hence, they are not evil.

[maheosphet]

Both quotes are saying the same thing in a different way. They are in regards to perspective and the way we look at things and consider the things we perceive. We often immediately want to label what is being observed, instead of just observing without labeling. The labeling creates a bias, and is just distractions from the observation.

 

Wang Liping has Mastered the Art of Seeing, which is seeing things as they are. But that sort of seeing is not limited to the eye's per say, lol.

Edited April 5, 2014 by maheosphet

[MooNiNite]

To put it in perspective the other ten evils include wealth, power, woman, sensual desire, bad teacher, idk the rest I don't have the book with me

[LaoZiDao]

Zhong Lu Chuan Dao Ji - Wang Liping 2nd book pg 329

 

 

 

 

"Then there are ten places of Yang energy, Three clear jade emperors, four gods and seven Yao(bright), five mountain spirits and eight kinds all commanding with difniaty and moderations, flying back and forth. We recognize these but don't identify them as the evil saints."

 

 

"Imagine soldiers and horses, shiny weapons and straight spears, bows and arrows at the ready, poised to fight and kill, we recognize these but don't identify these as armed soldiers of evil."

 

Can someone explain why these visions are evil? and detour one from progressing?

 

maybe i'm missing something obvious.

 

 

 

Zhong Lu Chuan Dao Ji - 9 obstacles, 10 Demons

 

Failure of past generations of little faith convinced that longevity, overcoming decay - only

empty talk. Many people have heard about Tao, but also did not understand it. The minds of such people

easy to excite the phenomena of the world, they will quickly weakens attachment to material

things. Because they are unable to protect themselves from 10 demons and overcome obstacles 9.

 

Lu asked: What kind of obstacles 9?

Before the Great drug is ready to host and the cold and the heat, then you will need to

change clothes according to the season. Before a true born couples encounter hunger

and thirst, three times a day will want to eat. Need for clothing and food - that's the first hurdle.

 

It may be that your heavy burden of karma, and you must return what he owed in the previous

lives. All the work and worry, you are not able to pay, and minute practice. When looking at the

elderly parents you cover the shame that you forget about them for cultivation. And you want to

to do - and no.

Filial duty - here is the second obstacle.

 

Kohl is tied to the family - will be the fate of you bother my wife and children. With growing every day this

affection. In order to provide food and shelter your family, you work tirelessly day and night.

Though embedded in your mind the desire for peace and quiet - but worldly troubles will melt

across the road.

Family ties and attachment - this is the third obstacle.

 

If you are rich and noble - it is easy to be deprived of material things and status in society?

What you have - that you can never get enough, constantly wanting more.

Captive social status

and destiny - that's the fourth hurdle.

 

In her youth, you are on the cultivation and would not hear, and even in old age still do damage to your

spirit. Lost all vitality, became terminally ill - and your wayward mind is not willing to awaken. Or, conversely, you are born in adversity, is doomed to endure the hardships of his entire life.

Karma and the hardships of life - that's the fifth hurdle.

 

If you are eager to find a mentor that cares little for you, whether he is enlightened or not.

The teacher will tell the wondrous things, and you will fall at his feet. It may well be just the gift

eloquence - and you believe that he had found the true immortal. Too late, you may open that your mentor - just a liar, having neither honor nor genuine knowledge.

The danger to be fooled by false teachers - this is the sixth hurdle.

 

Here you hearken to disputes il mentors of their students - of course, differences of opinion in their judgments

knock you astray. Blindly you seek the truth in the chaos of the foliage and branches of wreath, not discovered as a result of anything worthwhile. These so-called teachers and their students interest only to endless discussion of the relative merits of small methods. Do knows them that the sun and moon do not rise easily, so if it goes back - their light dazzles

and for all to see! Do they know that the thunder rumbling in vain, but it rattles when - the sound of his stun

and heard everywhere! Trying to hit each other tricky words, they do not see that all their subtle speech - only a short-lived fire fireworks. Their arguments about the meaning of words endless, and there was no case that they agreed not something one.

Get lost in the numerous judgments, and all kinds of arguments - the 7th hurdle.

 

You firmly decided tomorrow morning to begin practice, but did not have time evening comes - and you have

reversed its decision. You sit down to practice and discover that desire to engage in this

not in sight. Are always urgent - and you are constantly interrupted in practice. In

very excited about the beginning, but soon loses interest.

Laziness and lack of resolve - The eighth hurdle.

 

Wasting years of his life, months of the year, days of the month, hours of the day. In his youth, tend to occupy

position in society, to try his luck. In old age care children and grandchildren. Each year, put thy trust

the next year, and every day is postponed to the next day I did not believe that practicing

today, tomorrow, help yourself - and that's laments in his old age, that are not able to return

Statement youth.

Wait for the next month, each time set aside for next year - ninth hurdle.

 

Even very hard doing, since not beat at least one - two obstacles - from cultivation

fruits do not wait.

 

Lu asked:

I understood the meaning of 9 obstacles. Do not tell me about the 10-demons?

 

Zhongli said:

Ten demons can come to you in reality, in a dream, and during the internal contemplation.

Images and sensations: the beautiful flowers, the sounds of the reed flutes, sweet taste in the mouth, thin

savor the pleasure throughout the body, arousal and excitement - all of them should be ignored.

This is the demons, whose name - 6 thieves.

 

Lovely apartments, shady promenade terraces, gourmet utensils, curtains made of expensive silk, studded with pearls trim on the windows of the room in the tapestries, decking coral beads, full of gold and jade halls - do not respond to all these images. It's a demon, whose name is the abundance and wealth.

 

Thoroughbred trotters, palaces, titles, thousands of hectares of land, gifts of ambassadors rooms in a green and purple fabric, embroidered with gold shoes - do not respond to these images. It demon by the name of the ruler's authority.

 

Light clouds in the sky, afternoon sleep, bad weather and heavy rain, lightning and thunder, sad music of flutes and the sounds of crying - it was a demon, which is called 6 senses.

 

Family members and friends suffer from adversity, children dumped disease, parents die, the brothers and sisters scattered around the momentous life, the couple apart - a demon named proprietary love.

 

You're on fire, fell into the abyss, plastered with a swarm of stinging insects mercilessly, painfully suffering from the poison, robbers rob you, you violated the law and now you execute - a daemon whose name woes fate.

 

Ten of the earthly kingdoms, enlightened energy Yang, three pure realm, the Jade Emperor, four

guards, seven lights, five emperors, eight kings, all majestically stand il hover in the air - a demon named phenomenon of holiness.

 

Soldiers, sharp blades, fierce warriors clicks, bows, arrows, and nowhere to hide from it all - a daemon, known as war.

 

Musicians, flutes and reed horns, whirling dance, gorgeous robes, the two main dancer in red tray you complete gold dish - a demon named enchanting music.

 

Charming companion, drinking and it is clear on the terraces in the night hours, delectable body in transparent robes, a whisper, calling you on the bed of love, - a demon whose name is thirst intercourse.

 

These demons will be an 10 - do not pay attention to them. if you get distracted by even one of them, all of them will jump on you. How many did not reach the Dao, falling victim to these demons!

 

If you do not give their attention, it is easy to be able to pass.

 

Your mind does not wander, and determination not to suffer. In dreams is able to ignore attention to demons - will not get off the mind, the spirit will not dissipate. If you met them in the domestic contemplation cast as an illusion. But their flow of his thoughts and feelings, and do not treat with them, as if they are your sons. Fill in the body of the three true lights - and they will disappear. Then Enables the Purple Water wheel to hold the spirit of Yang through the courtyard is in heaven Palace. Only after this can you surpass ashes.

 

Many practicing clarity and calm, but avoid 10 demons and 9 obstacles unable.

Slaves of external circumstances, they are just words follow the Tao. How cultivate in everyday life - have no idea, but believe that if left alone the madding crowd and retired to uninhabited areas, they will be able to reach the Tao. But difficulties 9 and 10 demons and find them there. Let not beat only one - two demons - Member no longer reach. At most, it can be then count - is the average il small benefit from cultivation, immortality among mortals or in the realm of the Earth.

 

Can you defeat all the demons, to overcome all difficulties and, moreover, cultivate true way - then every moment of practice will bring you closer to the true immortality. If, for as a result, in order to unite the body with the spirit of Yang, applying inner contemplation - not long wait and return on the 3 islands of the blessed saints.

[Taoist Texts]

Zhong Lu Chuan Dao Ji - Wang Liping 2nd book pg 329

 

 

 

 

"Then there are ten places of Yang energy, Three clear jade emperors, four gods and seven Yao(bright), five mountain spirits and eight kinds all commanding with difniaty and moderations, flying back and forth. We recognize these but don't identify them as the evil saints."

 

 

"Imagine soldiers and horses, shiny weapons and straight spears, bows and arrows at the ready, poised to fight and kill, we recognize these but don't identify these as armed soldiers of evil."

 

 

 

Can someone explain why these visions are evil? and detour one from progressing?

 

maybe i'm missing something obvious.

it basically means that either - a war can start in reality where you live and you cant practice due to the war;OR, you will hallucinate being attacked by armed demons in your meditation, and, being scared, will not be able to contunue practicing.

[MooNiNite]

it basically means that either - a war can start in reality where you live and you cant practice due to the war;OR, you will hallucinate being attacked by armed demons in your meditation, and, being scared, will not be able to contunue practicing.

 

very nice.

 

sometimes these hallucinations are yourself?

Edited August 19, 2014 by MooNiNite

[Taoist Texts]

very nice.

 

sometimes these hallucinations are yourself?

Yes, all the time.

[Marblehead]

To put it in perspective the other ten evils include wealth, power, woman, sensual desire, bad teacher, idk the rest I don't have the book with me

I just realized this post. Gotta remove woman and sensual desire from that list.

[MooNiNite]

Yes, all the time.

 

little bit more than hallucinations also ,they might not only attack yourself