Unseen_Abilities Posted April 12, 2014 To promote conformity is to con people.Conform = Con, Form = Forming a Con.Mass Conformity (trends and so on within masses of people) = Forming a Con on masses of people (the Mainstream, sure, but I've also noticed this within Subcultures of people too - groups that are normally perceived to be "non-conformists" - Goths, Hippes, Ravers, etc).  What does it mean to be truly Authentic?  Unseen_Abilities  1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Mar-Vell Posted April 12, 2014 ... Dough Nut Ax Me! Â I dunno. Â I DAO. Â ... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted April 12, 2014 I have mentioned that I am an Anarchist, haven't I? Â Following one's own nature would be pretty close to being authentic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unseen_Abilities Posted April 12, 2014 Now that you mention it, I did notice the "A" for "Anarchy" in your signature, Marblehead. Â I agree. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Mar-Vell Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) ... I am predominantly Liberal Democrat. Â That may be my last comment on politics. Â It may not be politic for me to mention politics, I'm thinking. Â No. ... Edited April 12, 2014 by Captain Mar-Vell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted April 12, 2014 ... I am predominantly Liberal Democrat. Â That may be my last comment on politics. Â It may not be politic for me to mention politics, I'm thinking. Â No. ... Hehehe. Yes, knowing the little about you that I do I think it would be wise if you did not venture into talking about politics. Politics and religion are the two most emotionally charged concepts one can talk about. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) Conformity, all of it; is outward and visible. In engineering terms the two wings of a plane 'conform' yet one wing may develop cracks whilst the other does not. Of necessity, using driving as one metaphor; we all conform by sticking to the road and not driving on the sidewalk. However whilst driving on the road some drivers will be listening to Country and Western or a gospel shouter on the car radio whilst other drivers may be cultivating nembutsu. All are bound for different destinations for different purposes be those business, social or pleasure. Conformity is an essential social emollient that in no wise constrains the inner- invisible. Some of our identikit dressed and ' same- latest' technologically kitted out first year undergraduates often rail against 'conformity'. No sense of irony - some youngsters. Â Â :-) Edited April 12, 2014 by GrandmasterP 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted April 12, 2014 Yes, the rebellion of youth is most-times ironic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted April 12, 2014 To promote conformity is to con people.  Conform = Con, Form = Forming a Con.  Mass Conformity (trends and so on within masses of people) = Forming a Con on masses of people (the Mainstream, sure, but I've also noticed this within Subcultures of people too - groups that are normally perceived to be "non-conformists" - Goths, Hippes, Ravers, etc).  What does it mean to be truly Authentic?  Unseen_Abilities   Usually 'con' is understood as meaning 'with' ... so conform means 'with form' but I like your interpretation.  The only thing you should conform with is your own inner truth. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted April 12, 2014 ... I am predominantly Liberal Democrat.  That may be my last comment on politics.  It may not be politic for me to mention politics, I'm thinking.  No. ...   http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/12/liberal-democrats-pointless-former-minister  good point. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) NOOOOO! Â I say again... Â NOOOOO! Â 'Inner truth' is the very last thing that anyone should ever 'conform' to. Â If we start out meditating on concepts like 'truth' then we're sunk before we even set sail. Â " If you meet the Buddha along the road. Kill him." Â ( Buddha). Â Apart from that, it's a good post Apech. Â :-) Edited April 12, 2014 by GrandmasterP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) Man those Abrahamic paths sure have long tentacles! Â Â ;-) Edited April 12, 2014 by GrandmasterP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rara Posted April 12, 2014 (the Mainstream, sure, but I've also noticed this within Subcultures of people too - groups that are normally perceived to be "non-conformists" - Goths, Hippes, Ravers, etc). Â Â Thank you! I went through my "I'm a Goth" "I'm a rocker" phase. Â I carried it right through my early 20s to fit into my "scene" Â When I found Tao, I became less interested in conforming to the scene. Because I was no longer interested in acting angry or depressed, I drifted away. Those scenes don't understand me anymore. Â But when I found the Tao, or the Buddha, I was conforming to something else. Â I am now transforming again. Or maybe I am just stripping all illusions off me. I don't know yet. Â I will let you know how I get on. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rara Posted April 12, 2014 NOOOOO! Â I say again... Â NOOOOO! Â 'Inner truth' is the very last thing that anyone should ever 'conform' to. Â If we start out meditating on concepts like 'truth' then we're sunk before we even set sail. Â " If you meet the Buddha along the road. Kill him." Â ( Buddha). Â Apart from that, it's a good post Apech. Â :-) Hmmmmm... Â I don't think it is that deep. Â Simply, if you don't like eating cheeseburgers, don't eat the cheeseburgers. That's still truth, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted April 12, 2014 NOOOOO!  I say again...  NOOOOO!  'Inner truth' is the very last thing that anyone should ever 'conform' to.  If we start out meditating on concepts like 'truth' then we're sunk before we even set sail.  " If you meet the Buddha along the road. Kill him."  ( Buddha).  Apart from that, it's a good post Apech.  :-)   You have your truth and I'll have mine  My inner truth is good thanks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Posted April 12, 2014 Conform with _________? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted April 12, 2014 Conform with _________? Â Â ... a level playing field. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Mar-Vell Posted April 12, 2014 ... Level  Playing  Field  Dat's jus' perfect!  Excellent!  ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted April 12, 2014 'Truth' may not the mother of dualism but for sure she's its prissy maiden aunt. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted April 12, 2014 'Truth' may not the mother of dualism but for sure she's its prissy maiden aunt. Â Â That's just your projection. Truth just means seeing things as they are. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) Fair enough. It was that other sort of 'truth' I was referring to. The one that excludes its perceived opposite. " This is TRUE... Hence... That is FALSE." Â Â That one. The dualistic one. Edited April 12, 2014 by GrandmasterP 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beyonder Posted April 13, 2014 To promote conformity is to con people.  Conform = Con, Form = Forming a Con.  Mass Conformity (trends and so on within masses of people) = Forming a Con on masses of people (the Mainstream, sure, but I've also noticed this within Subcultures of people too - groups that are normally perceived to be "non-conformists" - Goths, Hippes, Ravers, etc).  conformity (n.) early 15c., conformyte, from Middle French conformité (14c.), from Late Latin conformitatem (nominative conformitas), from conformis "similar in shape," from conformare (see conform). Modern form is from 17c.  http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=conformity&searchmode=none Share this post Link to post Share on other sites