C T Posted September 1, 2014 Saying that mantra work is useless is simply trying to settle the case prematurely. Mantra work is included in the Path aspect of Ground, Path and Fruition, which is the whole basis of Dzogchen. Ground is recognizing buddha nature, Path is about diligence, confidence & gaining stability with practical experience, and Fruition is to rest in the right experience, over and over. Sure, one can choose to ignore mantra work, which is so fundamental to the Path aspect, but then one cannot claim to be training in Dzogchen. Simple as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted September 1, 2014 any enlightened being is a walking, talking, radiating mantra on all levels and of all true dharmas. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aboo Posted September 1, 2014 I respect your posts ZOOM, but when it comes to mantra's I think you are incorrect. I actually used to think like you did, that they were 'mumbo jumbo', but before my crown chakra opened I heard internally mantra chanting which did not come from my own mind. And when it finished, energy exploded, so I think they do have a very real effect. Obviously my own experience will not convince you, but maybe keep an open mind for the possibility and see for yourself. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wells Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) . Edited October 28, 2014 by ZOOM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tibetan_Ice Posted September 1, 2014 http://www.shangshungstore.org/index.php?l=product_detail&p=476 http://new.brozkeff.net/dzogchen/Namkhai%20Norbu%20-%20Song%20of%20Vajra.pdf http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Om_mani_padme_hum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted September 1, 2014 Uhm...is that (pretty good) trolling or sectarian delusion? that is a pretty good possible guess and also question about the possible down side of sectarian problems both rolled into one (.) (?) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
