NotVoid Posted April 23, 2014 Q: Where does imagination end and reality begin? A: A fish. You, sir, must be very wise. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dee Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) Surrender is stepping backwards, as the old Zen proverb says, but you have to say something... What nobody told me when I started this process is that what you end up with after all this doing is nothing. h Can you really complain? You started with nothing. You will die with nothing. Edit: It would be awesome to have nothing. I can imagine all the possibilities. Edited April 23, 2014 by dee 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) I desire nothing. ( Really really desire it). :-) Edited April 23, 2014 by GrandmasterP 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Mar-Vell Posted April 23, 2014 ... I march beneath the white flag.Ya want any top quality surrendering work ever doing then I'm your (married) man. That is my fave comment so far. Me too man! Me too. Amen. Always bow to the dam. But I ain't married no more. Am I? xxx ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) what the world really needs is more storytellers. there is more to do sittin' 'round the campfire than roasting weeners and marshmallows. with our thoughts we make the world, someone said edit> ten years, ok if it takes a thousand years,,,ok Edited April 23, 2014 by zerostao 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dee Posted April 23, 2014 what the world really needs is more storytellers. there is more to do sittin' 'round the campfire than roasting weeners and marshmallows. with our thoughts we make the world, someone said edit> ten years, ok if it takes a thousand years,,,ok leave marshmellows out of this. they are so damn delicious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Mar-Vell Posted April 23, 2014 ... So long. And thanx fer all da fish. Bozoz. xxx ps I ain't goin' nowhere. I like it right here. ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Mar-Vell Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) ... Yes. I Do. Desire. Nuthin'. For 'tis a consummation devoutly to be wished. Twin Union That Leaves No Trace. xxx ps I don't like marshmallows. I do like marsh wiggles, like Puddleglum. I especially loved him. ... Edited April 23, 2014 by Captain Mar-Vell 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hagar Posted April 23, 2014 what the world really needs is more storytellers. there is more to do sittin' 'round the campfire than roasting weeners and marshmallows. with our thoughts we make the world, someone said edit> ten years, ok if it takes a thousand years,,,ok Only stories are such breaker of hearts. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hagar Posted April 23, 2014 Can you really complain? You started with nothing. You will die with nothing. Edit: It would be awesome to have nothing. I can imagine all the possibilities. talking from experience it´s actually painful to groove on that mystery. Maybe I just feel like you feel right after you have jumped off a building and then changed his mind. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dee Posted April 23, 2014 talking from experience it´s actually painful to groove on that mystery. Maybe I just feel like you feel right after you have jumped off a building and then changed his mind. Why is it painful? Dig deeper. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hagar Posted April 24, 2014 The Mego probably. It´s actually demotivating to not be "accomplished", but that is the dark side. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted April 24, 2014 It´s actually demotivating to not be "accomplished", but that is the dark side. Worthy of repeating. And very true although many will deny it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsun Posted April 24, 2014 "Basic awakening brings a final anti-climatic ending your journey as you knew it. You didn't become omniscient or all powerful, you didn't end up in permanent bliss or free from suffering, and you didn't end up in a merged state of oneness with all creation." Ric Weinman Apparently it is common for such experience to create things like loss of motivation and depression, because all the old meanings and motivations are tied into your old ego identity, but over time apparently something deeper and more true emerges . "..there can be a time gap between the letting go of the old and the emerging of the new. This is similar to what happens when a spouse dies, in that some period of time is needed for acceptance and integration before the person can move on" - Awakening through the veils book 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted April 24, 2014 The Mego probably. It´s actually demotivating to not be "accomplished", but that is the dark side. Ouch! Know what you mean man. Up and then down. First time I reckoned to have 'been there' right afterwards I was down in the dumps thinking... " Well that was nice but this is shit." Had to get back on the horse and just keep cultivating even though I did not feel like doing it at all. That did the trick and eventually the penny dropped that it isn't the destination that matters, it's the journey. Stick at it bro and the dark stuff falls away over time.. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
forestofclarity Posted April 24, 2014 I think many people have come to this stage. I notice that in many modern circles, especially modern non-duality, this is seen as an end point or a final stage. I have also come across many older students in traditional spiritual settings who have come to such a stage as well. However, the world being as it is (without fixed points), there are no fixed points or final stages. The world is constantly in an ever present becoming, it is dynamic and always changing. For me, what this tends to mark is a reorientation. It is an orientation away from trying to achieve, or trying to find, and toward allowing things to unfold. It marks an orientation away from wanting to things to be different to allow things to come as they are. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) Without your name.....who are you? My 2 cents, Peace Edited April 24, 2014 by OldChi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hagar Posted April 24, 2014 The dude. Pretty much always been the guy, the dude. No name, just gender. Go figure 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) The dude. Pretty much always been the guy, the dude. No name, just gender. Go figure The Dude and The Zen Master.... http://sweepingzen.com/book-review-the-dude-and-the-zen-master/ "Reading their frictionless exchanges is like watching someone blow kisses at himself in the mirror." ( Unsympathetic reviewer). :-) Edited April 24, 2014 by GrandmasterP 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites