Sweet Dew Bathes the Polar Mountain

[MooNiNite]

"White clouds assemble at the peak,

sweet dew bathes the polar mountain,

Having drunk the wine of long life,

you wander free,

who can know you?"

 

-Ancestor Lu

 

 

What does "White clouds assemble at the peak mean?

 

what about sweet dew bathes the polar mountain?

[MooNiNite]

my guess,

 

it is referring to the spinning of the seventh chakra, and energy being recycled and flowing down the face

[GrandmasterP]

Clambering up the Cold Mountain path,

The Cold Mountain trail goes on and on:

The long gorge choked with scree and boulders,

The wide creek, the mist-blurred grass.

The moss is slippery, though there's been no rain.

The pine sings, but there's no wind.

Who can leap the world's ties

And sit with me among the white clouds.

 

(Han-shan

Cold Mountain Poems).

 

Cultivation ( never easy) as a route to enlightenment maybe?

Edited April 30, 2014 by GrandmasterP

[Andrei]

Nope, it refers to shen gathering in the upper dantian and the flow of sweet elixir that is pouring from the pituitary gland through the roof of the mouth. This is the "wine of long life"

[soaring crane]

it is referring to the spinning of the seventh chakra, and energy being recycled and flowing down the face

 

Hi MooNiNite - If it's chakra, it isn't Daoist, and vice-versa. Andrei's reply is very clear and fitting :-)

Edited April 30, 2014 by soaring crane

[Andrei]

Ancestor Lu is Lu Dongbin founder of alchemical taoism, many texts refer to him as ancestor Lu or master Lu, he is one of the 8 immortals of taoism:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%BC_Dongbin

[soaring crane]

Ancestor Lu is Lu Dongbin founder of alchemical taoism, many texts refer to him as ancestor Lu or master Lu, he is one of the 8 immortals of taoism:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%BC_Dongbin

 

Ah, it's Lü

[Marblehead]

I just read the words. It's really a beautiful poem (especially if you have been there.).

[MooNiNite]

Nope, it refers to shen gathering in the upper dantian and the flow of sweet elixir that is pouring from the pituitary gland through the roof of the mouth. This is the "wine of long life"

 

Hi MooNiNite - If it's chakra, it isn't Daoist, and vice-versa. Andrei's reply is very clear and fitting :-)

 

Not sure. There is a stage where energy pours down the face, "fountain of youth", im thinking that sweet dew "bathes" the polar mountain to be separate from..."having drunk the wine of long life" which is ketchari mudra or what Andrei says.

 

of course he called it "sweet" but he also uses the word "bathe". where as the elixir Andrei speaks of is more of a dripping.

Edited May 3, 2014 by MooNiNite

[LAOLONG]

wine of long life=

saliva mixed with energy in the mouth

and then swallowed

[soaring crane]

wine of long life=

saliva mixed with energy in the mouth

and then swallowed

Yes, but not just any saliva. That's what Andrei was pointing out.

[LAOLONG]

any saliva will do

[GrandmasterP]

Then how come the Chinese are such notorious spitters in public?

We were quite shocked by that when we visited.

Even the best hotels have spittoons in the public areas.

Uggghhhhhh!

Edited May 3, 2014 by GrandmasterP

[SecretGrotto]

Don't want to hijack this thread, but I would also love a similar elucidation, on the Taoist interpretation of Lu Tong's poem, if anyone can solve it:

 

 

Lu Tong's Seven Bowls of Tea 七碗诗 卢仝（唐. 790~835）

The first bowl moistens my lips and throat; 一碗喉吻潤，

The second bowl breaks my loneliness; 二碗破孤悶，

The third bowl searches my barren entrails but to find 三碗搜枯腸，

Therein some five thousand scrolls; 惟有文字五千卷，

The fourth bowl raises a slight perspiration 四碗發輕汗，

And all life's inequities pass out through my pores; 平生不平事盡向毛孔散，

The fifth bowl purifies my flesh and bones; 五碗肌骨清，

The sixth bowl calls me to the immortals. 六碗通仙靈，

The seventh bowl could not be drunk, 七碗吃不得也，

only the breath of the cool wind raises in my sleeves. 唯覺兩腋習習清風生。

Where is Penglai Island, Yuchuanzi wishes to ride on this sweet breeze and go back. 蓬萊山﹐在何處，玉川子乘此清風欲歸去。

[soaring crane]

any saliva will do

If it were only so easy... But alas

[Marblehead]

That wasn't tea, it was rice wine and he passed out after drinking the sixth bowl.

[GrandmasterP]

His prostate must have been pretty sound too.

Six bowls of tea here and I'd be up and down like an elevator.

Edited May 3, 2014 by GrandmasterP

[manitou]

Maybe the 7th bowl is the Tao that can't be spoken of.

[Marblehead]

Maybe the 7th bowl is the Tao that can't be spoken of.

Nice seeing you here!

[Andrei]

Watch this until it ends:

[Andrei]

[manitou]

Nice seeing you here!

 

nice being seen!

[manitou]

wine of long life=

saliva mixed with energy in the mouth

and then swallowed

 

 

Sounds like Amrita (I think that's what it's called) that comes down the back of the throat - incredibly sweet syrup-type thing that happened to me once during meditation.

[soaring crane]

 

nice being seen!

Oh, you were noticed, don't worry bout that :-)