DreamBliss Posted June 6, 2014 This is a shot in the dark, and not something I have ever talked much about, but here goes. For as far back as I can remember I have these moments where I speak a strange, foriegn language. Usually when I am in a state of bliss or joy or some sort of high emotion. Heck I think I wrote a poem in it once... Hold on a sec... Checking my computer... OK, I'm back, but I can't find it I will look more later. Anyhow I am reading, "Polishing The Mirror" by Ram Das, and I am near the end where he is talking about the names of God. He says, quoting Krishna Das, "Those names come from a Divine Place within us, a place that is before thought, before emotions, before anything to to with conepts or conceptual thinking." I guess I was wondering what the name of God was in this unknown language of mine. I can' tell you how weird it is that I can sit there and say this stuff in a lnaguage I never studied and have no name for. I wonder sometimes if I am just speaking goblygook, but I have a powerful sense it is a real language. It is very confusing. Anhow, in this language, the name I got for the name of God is: Sec'A'Neh (pronounced sec-ka-nay) It is vaugly familliar, as if I have said or wrote it before, and I think that is how it is written, but not sure. I just know how it sounds. Sec'A'Neh. Does that ring a bell with anyone? Just wondering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheshire Cat Posted June 6, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicani Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DreamBliss Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) Just looked at it again. Sicani. OK, the name of an extinct people. Hmmm... Will research this... Thanks for posting! Edited June 6, 2014 by DreamBliss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Formless Tao Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) Dont know about the word but is most likely from a spirit. Could be positive or negative. To me it sounds like this... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaking_in_tongues#/search Peace FT Edited June 6, 2014 by Formless Tao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C T Posted June 6, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shekhinah this is what you are looking for. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) Check out 'glossolalia' on Google. Hope that helps. Edited June 6, 2014 by GrandmasterP 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manitou Posted June 6, 2014 DreamBliss - what a novel thing to have happen. When I first got sober 32 years ago, I had to return to my Christianity (which I had long abandoned) in a big way - a real born-again adventure. The same thing happened to me for a while - I would sit outside on my porch at night, in the desert, and speak in a totally unknown language - and tears would stream out of my eyes. I had the same sensation that you did - that I couldn't tell if it was gobblygook or something was actually coming up from the inside. This went on for a few months, then finally rested. Yours sounds pretty viable, particular when you figure in CT's input. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted June 6, 2014 I had a similar experience in my teens while living in a christian paradigm. The intensity of my desire to heal a friend in prayer, brought on a state where mind shut down and all that was, was the focus of the prayer. After some time, my mind returned and I remember being startled to hear the following words flowing from my own mouth, my eyes still closed and me still rocking back and forth gently. Mahlum Kahshem, mahlum kahshem, mahlum kashem leh hayem elli mahktoo billibous... In the paradigm I was raised with it was known as speaking in tongues. In my experience it was a very comfortable, natural response to the intensity of the vibrations occupied by my intentional mind and body. I didn't get any sense of being used as a receiver to transmit anything, or that anything was being communicated through me from another source, it was just the natural expression of what was happening in my being. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Formless Tao Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) Check out 'glossolalia' on Google. Hope that helps. Glossolalia In wiki reverts to 'speaking in tongues'. Great minds think alike Edited June 6, 2014 by Formless Tao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) It's far older than the Pentecostalists would have us believe. They claim to have rediscovered glossolalia at the Azusa Street revival of 1906 in LA at the beginning of the last century. I've a journal here of the gloriously named Lorenzo Dow ( died 1834) an American evangelist who came to England and supported very early Primitive Methodist camp meetings in the mid 19th Century. Wonderful character who dressed and looked a bit like Wild Bill Hickock. Lorenzo reports not only congregations spontaneously speaking and even singing in tongues in those first camp meetings but also a strange dance and uncontrollable laughter along the lines of that 'Toronto Blessing' that was passed off as a new thing a few years ago. Truly there is no new thing under the sun. Edited June 6, 2014 by GrandmasterP 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Formless Tao Posted June 6, 2014 It's far older than the Pentecostalists would have us belinteresting to view . They claim to have rediscovered it at the Azusa Street revival at the beginning of the last century I've been part of groups speaking in tongues at Catholic charismatic healing masses and Pentecostal Protestant masses. Very interesting to view and be a part of. I agree, they may have discovered it for themselves but other groups have been speaking in tongues alot longer than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) For sure. I once heard a convention centre full of Pentecostalist ladies all singing in tongues. Beautiful it was. Edited June 7, 2014 by GrandmasterP 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manitou Posted June 8, 2014 I had a similar experience in my teens while living in a christian paradigm. The intensity of my desire to heal a friend in prayer, brought on a state where mind shut down and all that was, was the focus of the prayer. In my experience it was a very comfortable, natural response to the intensity of the vibrations occupied by my intentional mind and body. I didn't get any sense of being used as a receiver to transmit anything, or that anything was being communicated through me from another source, it was just the natural expression of what was happening in my being. I wonder if the operative word here is 'intensity'. Your intensity to heal a friend. It happened to me during a great period of intensity as well - I was waiting to see if I would be awarded a pension from LAPD, after my breakdown. My house was in foreclosure. I would go outside at night under the stars and pray about this - very intensely. This phenomenon happened during that period and during those prayers arising out of financial fear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted June 8, 2014 I wonder if the operative word here is 'intensity'. Your intensity to heal a friend. It happened to me during a great period of intensity as well - I was waiting to see if I would be awarded a pension from LAPD, after my breakdown. My house was in foreclosure. I would go outside at night under the stars and pray about this - very intensely. This phenomenon happened during that period and during those prayers arising out of financial fear. Very interesting. My emotions were definitely in overdrive during this period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DreamBliss Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) Thank you all for your input and giving me this information! Very strange that a former Christian who renounced his faith would be speaking in tongues. Also not what I remeber the experience to be like the one time I witnessed someone doing it years ago. What I saw was a sort of overflow of emotions, an emotional high, in worship. It brought on people speakng in tongues. For me it seems to be different. I guess I could be said to be in some ecstatic or close-to ecstatic state, but there is no worship aspect going on. Also I can sort of "tune in" it. Just have t think about it. Certainly not in an extreme of emotion now. And I can speak it. Almost like I've tuned in to something, and most of the time I have tuned it out? Well whatever it is, I will just ask the Source to be with me when speaking it, to guide and direct me to its usage, if I should use it in any way. Treat it as a gift and remain curious. It's nice to have things in the world that can't currently be explained, although I am sure if someone really wanted to they could. Checking links. Thank you again! UPDATE: So it closely resembles that english representation for the Hebrew name of God. Interesting. Also this speaking in tongues is connected to Shamanism. OK, well I defintely have a tie in there, as I met Ayhunna, a spirit fox, in a dream re-entry. I seem to have a natural affinity for shamanistic practices. Or at least I think I do. Not an expert, never met or talked to a Shaman to my knowledge. So this language could be Hebrew or Native American or something. Edited June 9, 2014 by DreamBliss 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manitou Posted June 9, 2014 Trusting Source would be the way I would go on that one too. I've had lucid dreams where ancient texts of unknown language were being "downloaded" into my brain. Who knows how Source finds ways to instruct us when we are absolutely ripe for receiving the information? Probably any little passageway that's there. Yes, you have talked to shamans. there are a few around this forum. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DreamBliss Posted June 10, 2014 My apologies... I met physically, in person. Knowingly. In other words, I have not shook hands physically with one who is a Shaman, to my knowledge. Never been to the physical location of one either. It's neat to know there are Shamans here on the forums though, 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manitou Posted June 10, 2014 My apologies... I met physically, in person. Knowingly. In other words, I have not shook hands physically with one who is a Shaman, to my knowledge. Never been to the physical location of one either. It's neat to know there are Shamans here on the forums though, Some of the posters here, you can see the light shine from between the words - if you have the eyes. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites