What is wisdom in Dzogchen ?

[Paul]

  On 7/11/2014 at 4:54 AM, ralis said:

Distraction from?

 

Nature

[ralis]

  On 7/11/2014 at 1:36 PM, Sheboar said:

Nature

 

That is a very broad generalization. The natural world? Are you implying that humans are not part of nature?

[Paul]

  On 7/11/2014 at 1:45 PM, ralis said:

That is a very broad generalization. The natural world? Are you implying that humans are not part of nature?

One self nature

[ralis]

  On 7/11/2014 at 1:56 PM, Sheboar said:

One self nature

 

Very broad again and evasive. Please explain what you mean.

[Paul]

  On 7/11/2014 at 2:01 PM, ralis said:

Very broad again and evasive. Please explain what you mean.

Example

A crystal

[goldisheavy]

  On 7/11/2014 at 2:12 AM, asunthatneversets said:

To affirm an existent entity whether personal or transpersonal, in whatever form.

 

For example; Judeo-Christian theology which posits an independent, eternal soul... that is an essentialist view.

 

Or, Advaita and Samkhya yogas which posit the purusha [brahman] as is an unconditioned, independently existent, transpersonal field of consciousness... that is an essentialist view.

 

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/kn/ud/ud.8.03.than.html

[Paul]

This is very exactly crystal

Edited July 11, 2014 by Sheboar

[ralis]

  On 7/11/2014 at 2:30 PM, Sheboar said:

This is very exactly crystal

 

Is English not your first language?

[goldisheavy]

  On 7/11/2014 at 2:30 PM, Sheboar said:

This is very exactly crystal

 

I think she's using Dzogchen jargon here... Can we please use normal English as much as possible? Please don't say "crystal."

[Paul]

  On 7/11/2014 at 2:32 PM, goldisheavy said:

 

I think she's using Dzogchen jargon here... Can we please use normal English as much as possible? Please don't say "crystal."

Why? Everyone understand this very clear

[Paul]

  On 7/11/2014 at 2:32 PM, ralis said:

 

Is English not your first language?

im sorry

[asunthatneversets]

  On 7/11/2014 at 2:29 PM, goldisheavy said:

 

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/kn/ud/ud.8.03.than.html

Obviously, coming from Buddha Śākyamuni this is not an eternalist statement, but is merely pointing to one's nature as profound emptiness.

[Tibetan_Ice]

  On 7/11/2014 at 3:42 PM, asunthatneversets said:

Obviously, coming from Buddha Śākyamuni this is not an eternalist statement, but is merely pointing to one's nature as profound emptiness.

Are you implying that there is also an emptiness that is not so profound?

[Paul]

  On 7/11/2014 at 3:42 PM, asunthatneversets said:

 

Obviously, coming from Buddha Śākyamuni this is not an eternalist statement, but is merely pointing to one's nature as profound emptiness.

There is no end

[Tibetan_Ice]

  On 7/11/2014 at 3:42 PM, asunthatneversets said:

Obviously, coming from Buddha Śākyamuni this is not an eternalist statement, but is merely pointing to one's nature as profound emptiness.

Are you implying that there is also an emptiness that is not so profound?

[dawei]

  On 7/11/2014 at 4:10 PM, Paul said:

There is no end

 

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