silent thunder Posted June 28, 2014 My practice revolves around a few forms. Two of which are Qi Gong and the others are about how I act and react to others in daily life. In regards to the Qi Gong practice, I recently experienced a big surge and wanted to share. I returned to daily practice three years ago after meeting my teacher, (seemingly randomly.... HA!). I hadn't studied with any intent for a long time due to what I thought were limiting physical issues... again HA! Recently, within the last year or so, my breath work will come on spontaneously throughout the day when I'm engaged in other tasks, seemingly unrelated to my forms. This has been fostered in me by my intention to incorporate the forms and breath awareness into the real cultivation, which is full time. While driving home this day, I noticed I was breathing fully and deeply again as in my forms, but while just sitting in traffic. So I allowed awareness to settle on the breath, which brought me into full body awareness and soon my entire body was buzzing lightly and the energy was flowing. And as clear as day Bruce Lee popped in my head and said: He just said in my head, stop thinking about the practice now and feel. As I've now fully ingrained the forms into my body, the mind can relax and isn't needed for much, yet I have still been clinging to rigidly counting and paying 'attention'. So when this moment dawned on me, I decided to really put that into practice and release the mind and simply work the forms with feeling and un-pointed full accepting awareness.... Wow. It was like plugging into 220v. I don't think this is any sort of end point, nor is it going to be the full focus of my practice from here out, but wow, releasing the mind and settling in raw awareness opened up such sensitivity to things that were already happening unawares... So... thanks Bruce! Wisdom doesn't die... 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 28, 2014 I don't think this is any sort of end point, Nope, not an end point. Just a point along the way, living spontaneously. ( We think about what we did after it is done. Hehehe. I find myself in trouble now and again because of this. But that's okay.) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Thanks for sharing. Gonna work on applying this to my own practice. A new mantra/affirmation to internalize: "Just Feel". Peace and blessings. My 2 cents, Peace Edited June 29, 2014 by OldChi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted June 29, 2014 awesome ST, you have experienced how the equation changes a bit once mental capital isnt super required...I was pondering this walking circles last night, I might have some more illustrative things to write. not that it would be anything I havent said already, I think 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted June 29, 2014 awesome ST, you have experienced how the equation changes a bit once mental capital isnt super required...I was pondering this walking circles last night, I might have some more illustrative things to write. not that it would be anything I havent said already, I think Reading your analogy of signal to noise ratio really resonates with me on this and was part of the equation for sure. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted June 29, 2014 so long as there's a single practitioner that gains benefit from the things that I write, then it is absolutely worth it 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kajenx Posted June 30, 2014 Does "the veil dropped" sound accurate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) Coming back to this post, I've noticed that working with the water element tends to open this aspect of ourselves and really enhance our practice. There is a reason why women generally catch onto this stuff a lot quicker. They know how to "feel". They are naturally more attuned to water (generally speaking). Edited September 23, 2014 by OldChi 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted September 23, 2014 Yeah. And speaking of working with water, every time I go out to the ponds and do work where I am in the water or putting my hands in water I have to go pee. Does that mean I'm attuned to water? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) DP Edited October 30, 2014 by OldChi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted September 23, 2014 I was being half way serious as well. And yes, what I said does speak to "feeling" our life, instinctively and spontaneously. This is why I speak so often of enjoying my emotions and feelings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) DP Edited October 30, 2014 by OldChi 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted September 24, 2014 If you like working with water, follow yongquan breathing to its logical outflows Stand outside barefoot in the grass if possible, inhale AT yongquan point make it feel like you are actually pressing a finger into your foot. make this feeling real. inhale as if you are pressing, then relax as only intention on the exhale. dont progress past where the energy tangibly goes inhale/press eventually it will move past the yongquan point (as the point becomes open) inhale it as far as you can tangibly and really go, then relax something special will happen when it hits the sea 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwai Posted September 24, 2014 My practice revolves around a few forms. Two of which are Qi Gong and the others are about how I act and react to others in daily life. In regards to the Qi Gong practice, I recently experienced a big surge and wanted to share. I returned to daily practice three years ago after meeting my teacher, (seemingly randomly.... HA!). I hadn't studied with any intent for a long time due to what I thought were limiting physical issues... again HA! Recently, within the last year or so, my breath work will come on spontaneously throughout the day when I'm engaged in other tasks, seemingly unrelated to my forms. This has been fostered in me by my intention to incorporate the forms and breath awareness into the real cultivation, which is full time. While driving home this day, I noticed I was breathing fully and deeply again as in my forms, but while just sitting in traffic. So I allowed awareness to settle on the breath, which brought me into full body awareness and soon my entire body was buzzing lightly and the energy was flowing. And as clear as day Bruce Lee popped in my head and said: He just said in my head, stop thinking about the practice now and feel. As I've now fully ingrained the forms into my body, the mind can relax and isn't needed for much, yet I have still been clinging to rigidly counting and paying 'attention'. So when this moment dawned on me, I decided to really put that into practice and release the mind and simply work the forms with feeling and un-pointed full accepting awareness.... Wow. It was like plugging into 220v. I don't think this is any sort of end point, nor is it going to be the full focus of my practice from here out, but wow, releasing the mind and settling in raw awareness opened up such sensitivity to things that were already happening unawares... So... thanks Bruce! Wisdom doesn't die... This is what my Sifu tells us all the time - it's time to stop thinking and start feeling, then following and eventually flowing 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beingnature Posted September 24, 2014 Great post i think i experienced the same.i can only express it in german die Gefühle und das Gefühl. I think at one point i did let go the one feellng oder das gefuehl and my yourney backwards went further... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) This is what my Sifu tells us all the time - it's time to stop thinking and start feeling, then following and eventually flowing Was contemplating this yesterday. Got a lot from it, thanks for sharing your teachers wisdom. Edited September 25, 2014 by OldChi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bud Jetsun Posted September 26, 2014 If one is thinking, and one chooses to think using 'words', one is exclusively experiencing a delusion composed of constructs (non-real). If one is thinking, and one chooses to think without using words, one is experiencing a delusion that may or may not be entirely constructs. If one silences thinking, one may gain awareness and tune into being in the now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites