silent thunder Posted July 7, 2014 I find it implausible for any 'thing' to be independent... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring crane Posted July 7, 2014 Â .but I would speculate that the world would have continued on as it had at that time. Much different than today! Â I disagree. The western industrial revolution began with the Brits and expanded to the continent and the former colonies. Â ok, of course it'd be "different" in a few ways. Geopolitically, North America would be sliced up differently, but technologically and economically, the same basic situation we have today would have evolved with or without the US. Â Seems to me also that the English today are hell-bent on reunification for some reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring crane Posted July 7, 2014 I find it implausible for any 'thing' to be independent... Â it is a very silly thought, isn't it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted July 7, 2014 I disagree. The western industrial revolution began with the Brits and expanded to the continent and the former colonies. Â ok, of course it'd be "different" in a few ways. Geopolitically, North America would be sliced up differently, but technologically and economically, the same basic situation we have today would have evolved with or without the US. Â Seems to me also that the English today are hell-bent on reunification for some reason. Â Â Reunification of what??? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring crane Posted July 7, 2014 Reunification of what??? Â you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted July 7, 2014 you know. Â Â Â ... my husband and I, would be very pleased to accept back our North American Colonies ... even though the rebels seem to have made a bit of a pig's ear of them. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted July 7, 2014 Independence from oil, fear and war would be neat...but not flowers... dependent on them always. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manitou Posted July 7, 2014 431642_10151144133110665_1558249445_n.jpg  ... my husband and I, would be very pleased to accept back our North American Colonies ... even though the rebels seem to have made a bit of a pig's ear of them.   That's assuming the monarchy was a silk purse to begin with... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted July 7, 2014 That's assuming the monarchy was a silk purse to begin with... Â They are all in-bred Germans basically. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted July 7, 2014 I LOVE German food, but not independently 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring crane Posted July 7, 2014 431642_10151144133110665_1558249445_n.jpg  ... my husband and I, would be very pleased to accept back our North American Colonies ... even though the rebels seem to have made a bit of a pig's ear of them.   hahaha excellent! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 7, 2014 I find it implausible for any 'thing' to be independent... But that's a different story. We will read that one tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 7, 2014 Seems to me also that the English today are hell-bent on reunification for some reason. Well, Great Germany reunified, why can't Great Btitian? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 7, 2014 I LOVE German food, but not independently Indeed, dinner for two is much more satisfying. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring crane Posted July 7, 2014 They are all in-bred Germans basically. Â Coburger, ja. It's just around the corner from me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted July 7, 2014 I disagree. The western industrial revolution began with the Brits and expanded to the continent and the former colonies. Â ok, of course it'd be "different" in a few ways. Geopolitically, North America would be sliced up differently, but technologically and economically, the same basic situation we have today would have evolved with or without the US. Â Technologically we'd have the same basic situation? Not saying the British or others are incapable of inventions...far from that idea...but the rapid increase in technology we've seen happened long after America's independence. It's hard to say truthfully that we'd be in the same or a similar situation...for all we know, things could have continued on basically as they were at that time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted July 7, 2014 Technologically we'd have the same basic situation? Not saying the British or others are incapable of inventions...far from that idea...but the rapid increase in technology we've seen happened long after America's independence. It's hard to say truthfully that we'd be in the same or a similar situation...for all we know, things could have continued on basically as they were at that time. Â America's technology is all European in origin. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted July 8, 2014 Why cant we just have the best of both worlds ? Â Â 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted July 8, 2014 The Queen looks so much like my mother ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring crane Posted July 8, 2014 America's technology is all European in origin. Â shhhhhhh ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted July 8, 2014 The Queen looks so much like my mother ! Â Â Charlie!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 8, 2014 America's technology is all European in origin. And that's bullshit, you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted July 8, 2014 And that's bullshit, you know. Â Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 8, 2014 Why? We have done things differently from the Europeans since the beginning. I mean, what european would think of having a tea party in the Boston Harbor? Â And when the Red Coats tried to force themselves on us we hid behind trees and had some really stand-out kind of targets to shoot at. Â Europe was all about tradition. The colonists thought European tradition sucked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted July 8, 2014 We have done things differently from the Europeans since the beginning. I mean, what european would think of having a tea party in the Boston Harbor? Â And when the Red Coats tried to force themselves on us we hid behind trees and had some really stand-out kind of targets to shoot at. Â Europe was all about tradition. The colonists thought European tradition sucked. Â So that's your technology ... hiding behind trees ... well done. Even the ideas behind the Declaration of Independence came from Locke, Rousseau and Voltaire. Come on admit it ... all the americans have invented is the hamburger and the frisbee. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites