hawk's feet

[silent thunder]

this drifted onto my thought pond, seemingly randomly...

 

like hawk's feet in flight
folded, closed, then forgotten
until the landing

 

not everything is important, necessary, appropriate or helpful all the time.

 

 

 

 

[Tibetan_Ice]

[silent thunder]

yup, feet don't have much value there

[silent thunder]

It's interesting to see how value changes situationally.

Some things that in my youth were incredibly valuable to me, are now disregarded or perhaps even abhorrent.

While others have grown exponentially in value.

 

Seems linked to the illusory nature of our perception and how we don't perceive things accurately, but as we intend to perceive them based on our desires/wants...

 

Bah, more morning rambling... and before my lemon tea...

[GrandmasterP]

Call me Mr Pedantic if you must, but don't hawks fly with their talons sorta open so as to be able to grab prey on the wing?

[silent thunder]

not until ready to strike, otherwise they're tucked and closed

[silent thunder]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=584901168290330&set=a.186786298101821.39381.100003113553557&type=1&theater

 

can't post pics above 18 kb on this forum for some reason now, but here's a link to a shot I took of a hawk that hovered our spot daily while working on Star Trek... she got so low I could count her feathers...

Edited July 9, 2014 by silent thunder

[GrandmasterP]

Fowler et al ( 2009) suggest otherwise in their paper - 'Predatory Functional Morphology in Raptors: Interdigital Variation in Talon Size Related to Prey Restraint and Immobilisation Technique.'

The bigger the prey specie the wider apart the hawk's talons are in flight.

Edited July 9, 2014 by GrandmasterP

[GrandmasterP]

Could anyone named Fowler ever do better than research into raptors?

 

[silent thunder]

hmm interesting stuff... I've taken dozens of hawk pics as they're one of my favorites. have yet to see them flying with dangling legs, the pic I posted pretty clearly shows the talons folded, but the point of the post seems to have been lost.

 

not all things in our life are useful or even helpful at all times in our life.

value adjusts and worth is determined by the conditions of existing life based on our perception

[GrandmasterP]

Works either way.

Your OP there implies usefulness and readiness for when needed.

Talons folded in flight as not needed in flight.

Fowler et al... talons open in flight and open to the exact 'size' of the prey.

Though how in the world they measured that beats me.

Along with who funded the research?

There's a research bid meeting I'd have loved to sit in on.

" You want to do what!!?"

 

Edited July 9, 2014 by GrandmasterP

[Anoesjka]

Encounters with wild animals such as hawks are so awe inspiring!

[nestentrie]

I don't mean to play the troll, but skydog would probably like this post. I don't see him around much these days.

[Tibetan_Ice]

Here is another picture I took of a hawk.. Yum supper time!

 

Edited July 10, 2014 by Tibetan_Ice

[Ya Mu]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=584901168290330&set=a.186786298101821.39381.100003113553557&type=1&theater

 

can't post pics above 18 kb on this forum for some reason now, but here's a link to a shot I took of a hawk that hovered our spot daily while working on Star Trek... she got so low I could count her feathers...

At the risk of posting something I normally do not on TTB, having studied Hawk Medicine I can say what I think this means. Per Native Medicine practices, Hawks are messengers from the Spirit World. There was something about the subject matter you were working on that interested the Spirits and this was an affirmation. I am almost certain I know what that meant.

Either that or the Hawk was just having fun.

 

Works either way.

Your OP there implies usefulness and readiness for when needed.

Talons folded in flight as not needed in flight.

Fowler et al... talons open in flight and open to the exact 'size' of the prey.

Though how in the world they measured that beats me.

Along with who funded the research?

There's a research bid meeting I'd have loved to sit in on.

" You want to do what!!?"

 

"readiness for when needed"

YES!

[silent thunder]

At the risk of posting something I normally do not on TTB, having studied Hawk Medicine I can say what I think this means. Per Native Medicine practices, Hawks are messengers from the Spirit World. There was something about the subject matter you were working on that interested the Spirits and this was an affirmation. I am almost certain I know what that meant.

Either that or the Hawk was just having fun.

 

"readiness for when needed"

YES!

I'm so glad you shared this...

 

Hawk has been my life long companion spirit, from as far back as I can recall...

She would circle us daily for weeks watching.

We made eye contact every day.

Constant reminder to see the big picture, yet let no details slip unnoticed...

Take nothing personally, is the usual message.

[silent thunder]

Works either way.

Your OP there implies usefulness and readiness for when needed.

Talons folded in flight as not needed in flight.

Fowler et al... talons open in flight and open to the exact 'size' of the prey.

Though how in the world they measured that beats me.

Along with who funded the research?

There's a research bid meeting I'd have loved to sit in on.

" You want to do what!!?"

 

Exactly, I see your context now, thanks for extending it, I was missing it.

 

It makes so much sense that it would be crucial to be able to gauge that spacing considering the speed they are catching things at, if one allowed to large a grasp, misses would be much more common. I'd guess it's akin to muscle memory for us, as they successfully grasp things, sense memory would lock that feeling in for future skill growth.

 

The only way I could think to measure it, would be in photographs of the moments prior to the catch, and measuring prey size and the talons in the pics... lucky folks to have such work.