Pictures of rainbow body, footprints in stone

[Tibetan_Ice]

Sorry to hear about Rachel..

 

http://www.acircleisdrawn.org/index.php/heart-essence/

[soaring crane]

I think he meant, 'who's that?'.

 

haha, I had to google it. Expected to find more than this

 

But I am curious now. Was was she?

[soaring crane]

Sorry to hear about Rachel..

 

http://www.acircleisdrawn.org/index.php/heart-essence/

 

ahhhh .... very sweet, and now very sad

[GrandmasterP]

Sad news.

May the earth rest light on her bones.

We were only discussing the Olds last month on here.

Edited July 15, 2014 by GrandmasterP

[Adinatha]

The problem I have with all this is that only the select elite are allowed to see this phenomenon. Why not let real investigators come into these places and document these events with unbiased investigation.

I think it is not so much that there are elites. The rainbow body will only happen if the master and disciple relationships are very pure. There are karmic interconnects that are very delicate. Science comes only to attempt to negate. The other side is then trying to prove something to propound a view. This breaks the dynamic for a body to let go of everything and dissolve to light.

[Adinatha]

Rachel Old has died but no word yet of her rainbow body.

Just a dead body for now.

 

She won't attain. I'm sad to say...

[Tibetan_Ice]

 

She won't attain. I'm sad to say...

And how do you know this?

[Jetsun]

Rachel Old has died but no word yet of her rainbow body.

Just a dead body for now.

 

Reading their website her partner said he looked out the window and saw rainbows in the sky when she died, I don't know if that means anything significant though

[GrandmasterP]

Rachel's just fine.

 

[Anoesjka]

Those footsteps, I have a comment on those. I have been a professional potter a decade ago, and having experimented with glazes a lot, I can say those footprints look like a reduced copper glaze. You can also find that sort of thing in a melting pot used to melt silver (because of the copper contained there in).

[Adinatha]

And how do you know this?

 

Because she taught that there is no lineage and no need for a guru to achieve. This breaks every samaya in the book. It means she didn't respect the transmission and raised herself above her teacher. No guru, no attainment. There is no second option.

[Tibetan_Ice]

 

Because she taught that there is no lineage and no need for a guru to achieve. This breaks every samaya in the book. It means she didn't respect the transmission and raised herself above her teacher. No guru, no attainment. There is no second option.

But Buddha didn't have a guru, did he?

[silent thunder]

But Buddha didn't have a guru, did he?

Heh... I was typing this as you posted it...

[Anderson]

But Buddha didn't have a guru, did he?

Are you or anybody the same caliber as Buddha ?

[Tibetan_Ice]

 

Because she taught that there is no lineage and no need for a guru to achieve. This breaks every samaya in the book. It means she didn't respect the transmission and raised herself above her teacher. No guru, no attainment. There is no second option.

CN Norbu does not have a lineage.

Neither did Buddha.

[Anderson]

CN Norbu does not have a lineage.

Neither did Buddha.

 

No...he doesn't have one.

He has them all

[silent thunder]

Are you or anybody the same caliber as Buddha ?

every single one, not a blade of grass, nor a grain of sand is less than this...

[Seeker of Wisdom]

Are you or anybody the same caliber as Buddha ?

Wasn't there a time when he was of lower calibre than we are now?

[Simple_Jack]

But Buddha didn't have a guru, did he?

 

Not applicable in the context of Vajrayana narratives:

 

http://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?title=Garab_Dorje

 

"Garab Dorje (Skt. Prahevajra/Pramodavajra/Surativajra^[1]; Tib. དགའ་རབ་རྡོ་རྗེ་, Wyl. dga' rab rdo rje) — the lineage of Dzogchen, unbroken to the present day, is traced from the dharmakaya Samantabhadra (‘Kuntuzangpo’ in Tibetan) to the sambhogakaya, represented by the five buddha families and Vajrasattva, and then to the first human master Garab Dorje..."

 

CN Norbu does not have a lineage.

Neither did Buddha.

 

 

Why do you think there are anniversaries of Garab Dorje and Padmasambhava in the DC? In both the Hinayana and Mahayana canons, there are previous buddhas, with Shakyamuni declaring that he was not the first buddha to turn the wheel of Dharma after it had died out, while also speaking of his prediction of anuttarasamyaksambodhi by Dipankara Buddha in a previous life. In Mahayana, it gets a little complicated, since Shakyamuni is considered a supreme nirmanakaya, who had achieved anuttarasamyaksambodhi countless eons ago; in Vajrayana he's considered an emanation of Vajradhara (who in turn is considered an emanation of Samantabhadra).

 

http://www.dhammawiki.com/index.php?title=28_Buddhas

Edited July 16, 2014 by Simple_Jack

[GrandmasterP]

We're all Buddhas ( potentially).

This clip explains.....

 

Edited July 16, 2014 by GrandmasterP

[asunthatneversets]

CN Norbu does not have a lineage.

Neither did Buddha.

Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche is certainly part of an unbroken lineage. His teacher Changchub Dorje's main teachers were Adzom Drugpa (1842-1924), Nyala Pema Dündul (1816–1872), and Bön luminary Shardza Tashi Gyaltsen (1859-1934).

 

Even focusing on just one of those teachers; Adzom Drugpa for example, his teachers clearly show how connected Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche is to various lineages, per Rangjung Yeshe wiki: Adzom Drugpa was the disciple of both Jamyang Khyentse Wangpo and Paltrul Rinpoche, and teacher to the 2nd Jamyang Khyentse, Chokyi Lodro. Trusted dharma-friend and contemporary to Jamgön Mipham, he received teaching and transmission from such master as; Kathog Situ, Shechen Thutob Namgyal, Kongtrul Lodro Thaye and Kathok Moktsa Rinpoche. Also received visions of Rigdzin Jigme Lingpa, whereby he was taught directly, and Khandro Yeshe Tsogyal.

 

 

Śākyamuni Buddha did not need a teacher, he was a nirmaṇakāya. An emanation of Vajradhāra who is in turn an emanation of the dharmakāya buddha Samantabhadra.

Edited July 16, 2014 by asunthatneversets

[Simple_Jack]

Wasn't there a time when he was of lower calibre than we are now?

 

http://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?title=1002_buddhas_of_this_Fortunate_Aeon

 

http://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?title=Supreme_nirmanakaya:

 

"A supreme nirmanakaya (Skt. uttamanirmāṇakāya; Wyl. mchog gi sprul sku) is a buddha who takes birth into the world, displays the twelve deeds of a buddha, and passes into parinirvana at the end of his life. Buddha Kashyapa, Buddha Shakyamuni and the Six Munis are examples of supreme nirmanakaya buddhas."

[ralis]

Not applicable in the context of Vajrayana narratives:

 

http://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?title=Garab_Dorje

 

"Garab Dorje (Skt. Prahevajra/Pramodavajra/Surativajra^[1]; Tib. དགའ་རབ་རྡོ་རྗེ་, Wyl. dga' rab rdo rje) — the lineage of Dzogchen, unbroken to the present day, is traced from the dharmakaya Samantabhadra (‘Kuntuzangpo’ in Tibetan) to the sambhogakaya, represented by the five buddha families and Vajrasattva, and then to the first human master Garab Dorje..."

 

 

 

Why do you think there are anniversaries of Garab Dorje and Padmasambhava in the DC? In both the Hinayana and Mahayana canons, there are previous buddhas, with Shakyamuni declaring that he was not the first buddha to turn the wheel of Dharma after it had died out, while also speaking of his prediction of anuttarasamyaksambodhi by Dipankara Buddha in a previous life. In Mahayana, it gets a little complicated, since Shakyamuni is considered a supreme nirmanakaya, who had achieved anuttarasamyaksambodhi countless eons ago; in Vajrayana he's considered an emanation of Vajradhara (who in turn is considered an emanation of Samantabhadra).

 

http://www.dhammawiki.com/index.php?title=28_Buddhas

 

Please define the time length of an eon. Whenever I see the term eon, the implication is longer than the present age of the universe. The human species has only been around approximately 200k years.

Edited July 16, 2014 by ralis

[asunthatneversets]

Please define the time length of an eon. Whenever I see the term eon, the implication is longer than the present age of the universe. The human species has only been around approximately 200k years.

 

The dharma doesn't go with the model of origin or evolution as laid out by the modern physicalist/materialist scientific paradigm, so the line of reasoning you are attempting to introduce unfortunately does not apply.

 

And on top of that, notions such as origin, evolution, etc., in general are only held to possess conventional application and credibility in the eyes of the buddhadharma.

[Simple_Jack]

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Edited July 18, 2014 by Simple_Jack