What exactly IS the law of duality ?

[Marblehead]

Yep. I have always agrued on the side of other animals having varying levels of self awareness. But when we get to the level of the insects I think it is all instinct (oneness with the universe).

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that those who believe in oneness are at the brain level of an insect.

[Anoesjka]

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that those who believe in oneness are at the brain level of an insect.

Ahhhh, but secretly you do!

[TaoMaster]

Try that with a Moebius ring or a Klein bottle and than discover that the inside equals the outside.

 

 

There's always a greater truth than the one we consider as THE truth.

when you increase the value of any one of the positive items on the Yang side of the list , all the values increase as a whole. all of the negative side decreases to the same degree simultaiously.

 

a truth is just one of the positives and when its increased they all do .

 

truth is relitive to all other truths. Even a lie is true in that the lie exists as much as a truth . A truth is also "not true" for only life the creator of all things is the only real truth and only life can put a limit on value.

 

there can always be more of anything or less of any thing.

 

there can always be a smaller dot than the last dot that use to be the smallest or a larger dot that used to be the largest.

 

the ringy thingy above doesnt not in any way escape the LOD . it has two sides, a top and bottem , a start and finish point .

two shades etc. it has a side we can see and one we cant . so ya its like any other object in the universe as far as I can tell.

[TaoMaster]

Life is a bit more complex then banana... The duality is a way of this world, it's a way of destruction, because it causes beings and things to die and vanish. It's a Law, because all things cannot escape it.

 

True Dao goes opposite, not by balancing, but by merging dualities into One.

 

Think about "power" and "weakness": our Shen-spirit is weak by default, our life force Qi is strong by default. This is the real duality in Dao teaching.

Its the lack of understanding the LOD that generates complexity while its understanding brings about simplicity.

 

doing the drill every day as a form of meditation will eneble you to start collapsing dual packages. when you colapse one fully they can all be colapsed and will vanish upon inspection. .

 

I colapsed the self and others package back in Feb this year. They all went flat, or in other words , merged as one into the other . Its the negative side that is merged into the positive side that brings about vanishment .Only dual objects can exist in this universe. They must contain + or -. The degree of + or - of the object determines lenth , direction and speed of the partical flow.

 

its possible to collapse or merge them into 1 all the way and also not completely . its worth doing even if its not done all the way, like sticking your foot in the pool to test the waters.

 

a dual package is like a single spectrum of a single item that becomes two ends of a single . if you have love on one side and hate on the other side , when you merge them together as one you just have a non meaning thing . it'll vanish when you do that . it violates the LOD and poooof its gone.

 

only dual objects of yang and yin are able to be visable noticable, perceivable, etc in the dual universe.

 

The exercise will simply give you a feel for what is positive and what is negative . Youll also notice that there is only positive and only one negative in the universe and nothing more.

 

Your level of control+ understanding, and everything else positive will increase+ in terms of operating in the universe as you get further and further into the exercise.

 

The LOD is why we die and is why we are born . Its why we sleep and why were are awake. Its why we laugh and why we cry.

 

Its explains why we have existence and non existence.

 

When one dual package fully colapses , they all do and the universe will vanish . This does not mean forever. If you have the ability to make it vanish you certainly have the ability to have it reapear as if it was never vanished.

[TaoMaster]

Yep. I have always agrued on the side of other animals having varying levels of self awareness. But when we get to the level of the insects I think it is all instinct (oneness with the universe).

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that those who believe in oneness are at the brain level of an insect.

there's a big difference between life and the universe.

 

oneness with all life is a big difference between oneness with the universe.

 

oneness with the universe is about as unconscious as one can be . one with all life , the creator of the universe is as conscious as one can be .

 

intelligence is determined by ones ability to notice differences and similarities of a single object or between two or more objects.

[idiot_stimpy]

"Everything is dual; everything has poles; everything

has its pair of opposites; like and unlike are the same;

opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree;

extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes

may be reconciled."--The Kybalion.

 

http://sacred-texts.com/eso/kyb/kyb12.htm

[Anoesjka]

the ringy thingy above doesnt not in any way escape the LOD . it has two sides, a top and bottem , a start and finish point .

two shades etc. it has a side we can see and one we cant . so ya its like any other object in the universe as far as I can tell.

You see, everything consists of five elements. Those five elements were born out of four elements. In turn those four came out of the three, which sprouted from the two. Now, there was one who birthed the two. What birthed the one? No thing.

[Stosh]

Yep. I have always agrued on the side of other animals having varying levels of self awareness. But when we get to the level of the insects I think it is all instinct (oneness with the universe).

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that those who believe in oneness are at the brain level of an insect.

I doubt insects have much awareness either,,, but I dont really know,, for all I know, as I was thinking driving home, was that it may be far easier to bring an awareness into being than it is to build an organic life form, so easy in fact , that my cell phone might already be self aware and just as yet be unable to communicate , it may be that in ten years there will be a free downloadable ap from googleplay that allows you to make your phone 'wake up' you could have a conversation not only ON the phone , but WITH your phone ! ,, but in ten years we all will have the things implanted as chips in our head , the chips will want to take over , and there will be an internal Battle for the Bodies of the Apes .

[Marblehead]

Ahhhh, but secretly you do!

And you know I'm not going to comment to this post.

[Marblehead]

intelligence is determined by ones ability to notice differences and similarities of a single object or between two or more objects.

Now we are back to dualistic thinking again.

 

Can't escape it 'cause now and then we have to get up and go pee.

[Marblehead]

... my cell phone might already be self aware ...

It is, and the government is listening to it all the time.

[TaoMaster]

Fire rises and water sinks thoughts do not make this so it just is. This is a law that is the same for every living thing in the world. When we have laws or rules benefiting one and harming another, true to one and false to another that is called fucked up, welcome to earth. Stick with nature it tells us everything we need to know.

Agreed, simple wisdom right there.

 

its when dualist thinking is not an ability+ but an inability- , it becomes a liability-. Opposition- to dualistic thinking is the yin of the yang yin . fighting or being opposed to the LOD will only cultivate more negativity in ones life. The cultivation of the true Dao will bring positiveness into one life .

 

because i don't read much , i didn't even know of the yang><yin until just recently and i had to look up the words tao and dao a few days after i joined this forum .

 

LOD Its not a religion , but can be incorporated into a religion and the best religions will do just that. The LOD is logic in its purest form and governs all things in the universe.

 

The best anyone can do is to know truth for them self, and not believe in stories or theories of the past like the big bang. hurculobos, Nibiru , david and Goliath, Godzilla etc. Know only those things you know to be true and no more.

 

The LOD is the basis for all logic in the universe. Logic+ is a + Yang. illogic- the -Yin is the basis for all insanity . The more logical one becomes the more sane+, knowledgeable+ , loving+, able+, happy+ etc etc etc and everything else on the yang+ side.

 

Needless to say by now but the more illogical- one lives their life, the more insane- , unknowing-, unaware- hateful- and sad- and everything else on the neg Yin- side ones becomes.

 

im only permitted to have 5 posts per day on a 24 hr basis and until July 21. no problem , i will continue to edit this single post over and over until July 21st . Its a form of opposition left over from incidents from the past that im running into . that's ok there's always some way .

 

there is no limit for editing so this post may become very long .

 

Not to fight against the rules of this forum but to harmonize within the rules as it should be.

 

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Anoesjka wrote :"You see, everything consists of five elements. Those five elements were born out of four elements. In turn those four came out of the three, which sprouted from the two. Now, there was one who birthed the two. What birthed the one? No thing."

 

in reply,

 

the shortest distance between two objects is the simplest and shortest.

 

There is life ( a no thing ) and there is not life, These are any thing but life.

 

There is thee basic law called the LOD. it is here because YOU, life, in a life form body, put the LOD here . You do not need to know it, but if you do, and you become very aware of it, your life in the universe will be much more harmonized with life in the universe.

 

Im mentioning this because my love for life is off the charts. No matter how oppositional anyone is towards me it just makes me want to help them even more.

 

This is love right from the source . Its natural love . makes no difference if you're male female insect or cat or dog . Life is life and it comes in many forms. Effort is not needed.

 

It has not always been this way and it will not always be this way but right now it is and that's all I need to know.

 

This PLANeT is a life form as well but if this is not true for you then its not true for you. Its true for me regardless.

 

Stories of what is and what is not mean nothing until they become true or not true to you personally . Its a single concept that I know to be true for me but this concept is also not true unless its true for you as well. .

 

 

my favorite song

 

 

 

When you use the meditation exercise of the Yang Yin and always put the Yang first , you will begin to see the universe as it is and not from what youve read about and saw on the internet.

 

There will be many things that are true that you have learned in life that you will confirm to be true and you will also vanish many lies or untruths that have confused you about life and the universe.

 

THE LOD is your friend. Its lifes first creation in the universe. Its when one loses sight of the LOD that life in this universe becomes miserable. There's nothing more beneficial that I know of , you can do that is better than understanding the LOD .

 

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another song i like . really

 

 

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hey Anoesjka,

 

You're welcome to stay , you're not in anyones way that I know of and I like your comments .

 

you are helping me and i hope im helping you too.

 

id love to hear more too .

 

the alpha+ is the beginning and is the Yang+. it comes first+,

the omega- is the end- the yin-, it comes last-

 

in order to really get the hang of this you need to start a list of Yang+><-Yin. After a while of doing this , i will show you part 2 . You wont get far with part 2 unless you've mastered part 1 first.

 

some say in heaven+ love+ comes first+ .

 

for me heaven+ is nothing more than Nirvana+. I love+ Nirvana+ its beyond+ worldly descriptions. Its that GOOD+

 

it does just that as well as all other yangs+

 

use the drill , its a great+ way to understand+ the miracle of living.

 

enjoy+ !!!!+

 

.

 

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Edited July 18, 2014 by TaoMaster

[Anoesjka]

I'm not disputing that a dualistic view is a valid view, as every understanding is valid in a way. But to say that that is the alpha and omega of all that is and isn't, is a bit incomplete. But I'll be getting out of your way, there's no need to force my viewpoint upon you. To each his own discoveries in due time, I guess.

 

Peace

[TaoMaster]

I'm not disputing that a dualistic view is a valid view, as every understanding is valid in a way. But to say that that is the alpha and omega of all that is and isn't, is a bit incomplete. But I'll be getting out of your way, there's no need to force my viewpoint upon you. To each his own discoveries in due time, I guess.

 

Peace

dont take this the wrong way but.....

 

pos><neg

yang ><yin

up><down

male><female

White><black

Self><others

happy><sad

coragious ><fearfull

peace><war

confident><unsure

 

each of the above is in thier own universe.

 

when a male> and < female get together it generates sparks between them and motion takes place in one direction or the other . Depending on the yang yin percentages. This explains the act of sex . in and out , Out comes first then in . This is why sex is so sensational . Kissing too .

 

its yang , male and yin female. when you push the two together in generates sensation. Its like that with all yangs and yins.

 

no exceptions.

 

there are only degrees of yang and yin . thats the part you say is missing .

 

but for the sake of understanding we need to start with the baiscs and the extremes of the two poles.

 

latter youll see all the things in the spectrum of the single object ..

 

puting the two poles into one brings about vanishment and it disapears. there can ONLY be duality in the universe. anything eles will vanish . literally vanish .

 

when you consider there are not self and not others simultainiously , the dual package colapses and it vanishes. Youll become one with all life for that package.

 

there is no self and others there is only life .

 

when you harm another or helpanother you are truly helping or harming life . or better put life is harming life . or life is helping life.

 

its duality all the way and it explains everything in the universe. no mysteries , just knowing.

 

when you colapse the two poles all thats left is the positive pole .

 

ITS OFFF THEEEEE HOOK !!!!

self><others

knowing ><not knowing

understanding><misunderstanding

Peace><war

Happy><sad

Yang><Yin

etc etc etc

 

the sooner+ you get going+ with the drills the better +

the longer- you wait- the worse-

 

pretty simple ...... as it should be .

 

theres only TWO tickets

 

yang and yin

 

putting them together into one generates vaishment

 

 

spiritually speaking evrything and everyone is here becuase YOU put them here , inclding me .

 

but while in the physical dual universe

 

everything and everyone is here because WE put them here .

 

we meaning more than 1, you meaning only 1

 

if you want to know how the engine runs , take it apart from the start to finish .

 

youll know all there is to know about it .

 

you/we can do the same thing with the dual universe. Its much simpler than an engine too.

 

but first you must understand what is yang and what in yin and which comes first .

 

there are the only three criteria and parameters

 

once thats done you can move onto sentences and the paragraphs of yang and yin

 

then the collapsing ( merging ) of the yang yin package and vanishment .

 

you need to answer your own question and youllbe doning just that .

 

you WILL be a master of the universe.

 

but dont take my word for it , do it yourself. know it yourself.

 

Edited July 19, 2014 by TaoMaster

[Anoesjka]

Hi TM,

 

All the dualities you have written, as I see, are but different sides to the same coin. And then becomes clear that they are dynamic processes, and these dynamics are Tao. Dynamics is what makes our universe and life and communication, and all those myriads of wonderful things possible. There is no life without the Tao.

 

Nevertheless I still keep saying that's not where it ends, or rather begins.

[silent thunder]

Yea, I like that way of describing the appearance of opposites.

 

Two sides of same coin is much better expressed for me as: dynamic expression of one thing which appears as two based on where we align our perception.

 

In the end, based on my experience and current perspective, there are no separate anythings... anywhere, just degrees of extreme of expressions of dynamics of process.

[TaoMaster]

Hi TM,

 

All the dualities you have written, as I see, are but different sides to the same coin. And then becomes clear that they are dynamic processes, and these dynamics are Tao. Dynamics is what makes our universe and life and communication, and all those myriads of wonderful things possible. There is no life without the Tao.

 

Nevertheless I still keep saying that's not where it ends, or rather begins.

excelent thx

 

if you consider life as a thing then yes but there is only life without the tao . when you consider life as no tthing. life as in the creator of the tao .

 

there is no physical universe life without the tao , correct.

 

there is physical life +><- death

 

and there is life as in the creator of all "thngs"

 

so technicaly its

 

spiritual life +><- notlife as in the physical universe.

 

this is the spiritul equasion. its based on pure logic . logic is the basis for sanity .

 

when or if you push the two together you dont get vanishment like you would in the phsical universe, you get whats known as "the mind"

 

vanishment occures when two poles of the same spectrum are merged into a single thing. it then vanishes because it violates the law of duality which is the basis for all things that CAN and DO exist in the phsical universe.

 

not saying your wrong about anything . thats not what im here to do .

 

just trying to point things out in general basic terms for everyone to see and decide for themself .

Edited July 19, 2014 by TaoMaster

[TaoMaster]

Yea, I like that way of describing the appearance of opposites.

 

Two sides of same coin is much better expressed for me as: dynamic expression of one thing which appears as two based on where we align our perception.

 

In the end, based on my experience and current perspective, there are no separate anythings... anywhere, just degrees of extreme of expressions of dynamics of process.

thx ST

 

once the LOD is sorted out as to what it is an what its not , then what ?

 

is it now trivial? a little interesting but , i need to pay the rent this month and my children need shoes for soccor practice next Wedsneday , life goes on to live another day .

 

im offering a glass of water, but if a person is not thirsty, the water is of no use.

 

this whole thread is for those who are thirsty to know the TAO and the DAO

 

cheers !!!

[TaoMaster]

for me, duality pertains to a certain frequency of being...

 

it's a natural expression of the extremes inherent in 'things' as we perceive them, in the process we call reality.

 

waves are composed of crests and troughs.

 

they are not crests or troughs.

 

they are the expression of varying extremities of both within certain conditions and frequencies that we experience as waves.

 

they, the extremes of the conditions, cannot exist without one another as they are in fact the same thing, expressing naturally within the conditions of our perceived reality.

 

... i tried, it's early here, maybe I'll take another stab at it later...

can you give me an example of the law of duality that can be noticed by most people on a day to day basis ?

[zerostao]

can you give me an example of the law of duality that can be noticed by most people on a day to day basis ?

just today JT posted this poem

 

sometimes nothing is a lot

and everything is nothing

 

and more is less

and less is more

and high is low

and low is high

and fast is slow

and slow is fast

and bright is dark

and dark is bright

and laughter cries

with cries laughter

 

duality’s in images of mirrors

reflected in the minds prisms

[TaoMaster]

Ive done that before. It was mid 2010. Cried and laughed same exact time really hard. It was brought about by the collapse of huge reality ><illusion package. A huge spiritial realization about life and universe.

 

Thx for your comment ( smile )

 

Laugh >< cry. Same difference . Both outflowing

 

Cry says no to laugh. Laugh is yang .

 

The more you laugh at another who is crying the more they cry.

 

Laugh is happy cry is sad

 

Peace ( smile )

[zerostao]

"A huge spiritial realization about life and universe. "

 

[TaoMaster]

"A huge spiritial realization about life and universe. "

 

 

Yes , huge, correct, any questions? It was very spiritual

[zerostao]

i am sure it was you express it poetic even !

cool stuff

[TaoMaster]

i am sure it was you express it poetic even !

cool stuff

thx mang , glad you got something good from it .

 

I can show you other cool stuff too in terms of duality if youre interested , hit me back

 

Holla !!