The completion of the four vissions

[Anderson]

Can this be accomplished in a 10-15 year thogal retreat ?

I was thinking how would it be and what would it mean to prepare for the next 2 or 3 years for such a retreat .

 

Ideally one would have to be very sorted physically and have a very strong understanding and confidence.

[asunthatneversets]

Definitely something you should ask your teacher. It is a retreat practice, and apart from of course needing transmission from a qualified teacher, it is advised you have a relationship with a teacher who can regularly check in with you and give you guidance or instructions (as needed) during such a retreat.

 

If you are interested in expediting such a process and really going for a long retreat, then perhaps seek out one of the Zhang Zhung Nyan Gyud programs and the series of preliminary retreats associated with the Kusum Rangshar (which should be undertaken prior to a long retreat of that nature). That way you can go through the necessary preliminaries and build a relationship with a teacher who can guide you.

 

Otherwise there are of course Nyingma teachers, and or Kagyu teachers who teach this practice as well. So depends on your preference.

Edited July 15, 2014 by asunthatneversets

[Anderson]

The shenten gomdra is closed and there is a waiting list.

Edited July 16, 2014 by Anderson

[asunthatneversets]

The shenten gomdra is closed and there is a waiting list.

 

Ah, well the Kusum Rangshar is Shardza Tashi Gyaltsen's teachings and is one of the main cycles used by the Bon for Dzogpachenpo, and the Zhang Zhung Nyan Gyud is what the Bon teachings are based upon.

 

I only recommended the Bonpo route because they are a bit more liberal with man ngag sde teachings than the Nyingma and Kagyu are. So if you are looking to get underway with an endeavor of this nature quickly then that would probably be the most expeditious course of action.

 

But perhaps see if you can contact those who are working closely with some of the main Bonpo teachers: Kyabje Lungtok Tenpai Nyima (the 33rd Menri Trizin), Yongdzin Tenzin Namdak, Menri Lopon Trinley Nyima Rinpoche, Khenpo Tenpa Yungdrung Rinpoche etc.

 

Otherwise you can go the Nyingma route. Or look to the Drikung Yangzab: I'm not sure where you are located but Ven. Traga Rinpoche is located in Chino Valley, AZ at the Garchen Institute and he is an authority on these teachings as well.