pickledpadma Posted July 18, 2014 What does one do after becoming enlightened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Posted July 18, 2014 What would you like to do? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pickledpadma Posted July 18, 2014 Hahaha how enlightened! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Posted July 18, 2014 Well... Â There is a secret handshake but it's... Â ...well... Â It's a secret, you see. Â Â Â Â Â Â 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daeluin Posted July 18, 2014 In taoism we harmonize duality. Â When we make an attachment to something, be it a feeling, an understanding, a way of being, we create polarity. By distinguishing this from that we separate this and that. This is the direction of creation and separation. Â In taoism we harmonize opposing forces, dissolving duality back into oneness. Our human lives dance through many layers of duality, and our unique nature dances uniquely. Harmonizing our unique nature with the dance of everything around us in the moment is merging our Te, our inner power and virtue with the Tao of all things in our path. We all express our Te in Tao, but sometimes use force and create separation, etc. Every creation manifests as ripples off into the world that are tied to our karma for good or bad. Only when we harmonize polarity do we dissolve past karma. Â As we get good at harmonizing, and dissolving karma, we begin to dissolve our very physical bodies and our awareness, as our Te becomes more and more refined and pure and natural in its merging with the tao. At some point we dissolve things so thoroughly that our body and mind are one, and we slip between inside and outside, between self and other, and step out of the way, allowing the inside to merge completely seamlessly with the outside, flowing through change/time in the way that allows our unique inner shape to maintain connection with all around it. This in between state might be called the one opening of the mysterious barrier / mysterious pass / golden elixir, or enlightenment. Â Somewhere along the way we discover our past life histories and realize that many patterns and challenges from our current life came from past life karmas, which we've already done a good bit of work harmonizing. But now we are aware of all these separate existences and need to harmonize them back into oneness as well. Â And so we continue following the path of true harmony, never stepping back towards creation as that would again create karma. Yet, even as we take no further control over the actions of self, the seamless integration of self and the outside world acts all on its own, feeding each other in beautiful and mysterious ways, always creating more harmony as more and more magical but invisible means become available through which to maintain harmony. Â At any point we could stop and go the other direction, creating dissonance again, using power to do whatever we want. But then we would have something bigger to dissolve... and if we should die it would remain as that very big karma, trapping us into further cycles of reincarnation until we could dissolve it. Karma from strange powers might even bring us back in unexpected ways. I don't know. And so we maintain the three treasures of compassion, frugality, and not daring to put ourselves ahead of anything else. Thus we dance between all things, becoming the connection between inside and outside and maintaining it with sincerity. Â This dance is one of harmonizing the polarity of self and other. Yet there is another polarity - the unfolding dance of change. Time as we know it. As we refine the last remnants of our form, perhaps we slip between time itself, to continue on our journey to..... cannot be understood with words. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted July 18, 2014 Ride dragons through the stars and drink peach nectar and stuff. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted July 18, 2014 chop wood and carry the water 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vitalii Posted July 18, 2014 What does one do after becoming enlightened? Â you can do something only if there are time and space. Time and space are limitations Immortal went beyond all possible limitations. Maximal result is understood herein as transformation of body, life energy and Consciousness/Spirit/Mind, and their merging, which is called as attainment of the Body of Light. Such a level is regarded as ultimate not only in Daoist tradition, but also in some of Buddhist schools. It means that on this level, a person exists in expressed as well as in unexpressed way, is one whole with Dao and, meantime, is individual, went beyond all possible limitations (e.g., of time and space). When such a Master leaves this world, he dissolves in a Clear Light with an iridescent shine. In such a transformation, even a physical body is converted into a clear energy, which means that after the Master passes nothing is left after him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chang Posted July 18, 2014 What does one do after becoming enlightened? Â My suggestion is that you wait until you become enlightened and see what happens. You will then be able to post back here answering your own question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetsun Posted July 18, 2014 I heard that the only thing which makes any sort of sense is to be a benevolent force in the world. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 18, 2014 In taoism we harmonize duality. I haven't read the rest of your post yet but just wanted to say that I like this! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 18, 2014 chop wood and carry the water And don't forget to go back and carry the wood too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) return to innocence, then look for wisdom again Edited July 18, 2014 by Stosh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 18, 2014 Innocence is beyond my grasp after all I've been through in life. But I do try to be nice when I'm allowed to be so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Doctor, my eyes have seen the years And the slow parade of fears without crying Now I want to understand  I have done all that I could To see the evil and the good without hiding You must help me if you can  Doctor, my eyes Tell me what is wrong Was I unwise to leave them open for so long  'Cause I have wandered through this world And as each moment has unfurled I've been waiting to awaken from these dreams People go just where there will I never noticed them until I got this feeling That it's later than it seems  Doctor, my eyes Tell me what you see I hear their cries Just say if it's too late for me  Doctor, my eyes Cannot see the sky Is this the prize for having learned how not to cry     Edited July 18, 2014 by Stosh 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted July 18, 2014 chop wood and carry the water  Schwing!!!  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrandmasterP Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) What does one do after becoming enlightened? Teaching is an honourable career. Decent pay, good holidays plus a well subsidised index- liked pension ( in the UK) too. HTH Â Edited July 18, 2014 by GrandmasterP 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 18, 2014 Hey Stosh, Â I've not forgotten how to cry. But I don't do it nearly as often as I did when I was a child. Â And I still think it is better to see clearly than it would be to see only illusions and delusion. Â Yeah, the truth of reality is sometimes very hard to go to sleep with. But if we live in illusion and delusion then we might as well be sleeping all the time. Â I still have my emotions (and my ego too). Reality is what it is. What is important is how I deal with it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pickledpadma Posted July 18, 2014 Innocence is beyond my grasp after all I've been through in life. But I do try to be nice when I'm allowed to be so. What grasps? What is there to grasp? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pickledpadma Posted July 18, 2014 Chop water, carry wood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soaring crane Posted July 18, 2014 What does one do after becoming enlightened? Â quite probably something that doesn't involve internet forums ... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted July 18, 2014 Hey Stosh, Â I've not forgotten how to cry. But I don't do it nearly as often as I did when I was a child. Â And I still think it is better to see clearly than it would be to see only illusions and delusion. Â Yeah, the truth of reality is sometimes very hard to go to sleep with. But if we live in illusion and delusion then we might as well be sleeping all the time. Â I still have my emotions (and my ego too). Reality is what it is. What is important is how I deal with it. I wasnt intending you entirely as the guy in the song, merely that I consider the the issues linked,, to be clear From my school of thought , the guy is freaked out about his peceived loss of an ability to relate in dualistic terms, that hes gone too far into the invulnerable place where good bad etc falls apart entirely , Id say he still has a hump to get over. Innocence is vulnerable , wisdom protects and so youd have a cycle - the search from innocence to wisdom and then back to innocence again. Â or anyway , thats a possibility Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted July 18, 2014 No, we can't remain in innocence. Reality won't allow us. No one is going to pop a tit in your mouth every time you get hungry. Â But to revisit innocence would be good, I think. Don't know; never tried it. Â Yes, I think that once we eliminate our emotions we might as well end our life. Life has no purpose except the experiencing of it. Â Dualities exist in reality. As soon as One gave birth to Two dualities existed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites