MH17...

[Vmarco]

Hahaha...you know the world does not always revolving around gays, right? Sure, he is not really pro gays. However, there are greater concerns in the world. There are greater issues. Surprised??? Geopolitical world power balance. You can't have America dictating the world what to do and what not to do while creating wars and global conflicts. Russia is supplying weapons to Iraq because the US has been reluctant to supply the Maliki regime with more advance heavy weapons to fight against the ISIS. Not to mention that if ISIS has taken over Iraq, Syria is next. Putin can not let that happen. China and Russia have recently created a mimi IMF for the BRIC countries in the hope that it could free them from the western financial dominance. And Putin is reopening one of the country biggest spying base in Cuba??? This is where Putin comes in. I am bias towards Putin because, after all, I have dreams and visions relating to him. Spirituality? How does this come into play here dealing with geopolitical world power struggles?

 

Oh yeah, talking about a nation of people lacking the so-called spirituality because you are spiritual precisely that you have condemned a whole nation of people of the same prejudice. Yeah, you are spiritual and enlightened, for sure....hahahahh...the irony.

 

Spirituality,...the in-breath/out-breath of perceived separation,...should be of the greatest importance to a Taoist,...because the Tao cannot be realized without understanding Yang/Yin.

 

As someone said,...gays are born, homophobics made,...thus for the homophobic Putin, the gay issue is an important one, for his self, and the public he media-tes.

 

I need no info on BRIC or the Dollar,...for me it's as irrelevant as your perception of human rights. I'm neither a socialist nor a capitalist,...IMO they are both detrimental to spirituality.

 

Frankly, I'm not ashamed to say I'm aware of spiritual nature, and all it implies. Authentic spirituality can alter all geopolitical manifestations. In 1992, Al Gore said, "the more deeply I search for the roots of our global environmental crisis, the more I am convinced that it is an outer manifestation of an inner crisis that is, for the lack of a better word, spiritual". That is not to get into a debate about Gore,...it is about the quote, that he just happened to pen.

 

The problem on Earth is rooted in beliefs,...especially religious beliefs. Authentic spirituality is void of belief, that is, the unquestioning acceptance of illusions/delusions.

 

The key to spirituality is honesty. Homophobics, Putin, the Maliki regime, Isil, etc.,...are not honest. There are few Countries that have a sizeable spiritual population,...perhaps Bhutan,...but the West will have to evolve another spiritual path, although such will not occur until the obliteration of the Judeao-Christian-Muslim memes,...because conditions cannot enter the Unconditional..

[Vmarco]

I already know this...America needs ISIS in order to topple the Assad regime. That's why the Obama administration sees little reasons to intervene at the moment. Don't forget about the $5m he is promising to support the moderate Syrian rebels. Most of them defected to the ISIS though despite that Obama claims that he could vet out who are the Al Queda and who are the moderate Syrian rebels. And he was talking about supporting the Syrian rebels in the midst of the ISIS taking over Iraq. Is odd. On the surface, they have nothing to do with one or the other.

 

By ISIS you must mean ISIL. Still don't know why the media uses a term that ISIL doesn't. How do you know the American Executive Branch needs ISIL to topple Assad? War monger Obama already intervened too much,...for example, taking out Kadafi seemed quite stupid, and not much different than Russia's interference in Ukraine. America however, will not elect an excellent President, like Gary Johnson or Jon Huntsman.

 

Personally, I have no idea why the powers that are, create these perpetual conflicts. Of course, if I was a Palestinian, and had my family's land taken by Jews in 1948, and put my family in a refugee camp for the past 66 years,...and I wasn't a spiritually orientated person,...what would I be doing today.

[GrandmasterP]

Posting on TTB?

Probably.

And...

 

 

Meh!

 

Edited July 26, 2014 by GrandmasterP

[ChiForce]

Spirituality,...the in-breath/out-breath of perceived separation,...should be of the greatest importance to a Taoist,...because the Tao cannot be realized without understanding Yang/Yin.

 

As someone said,...gays are born, homophobics made,...thus for the homophobic Putin, the gay issue is an important one, for his self, and the public he media-tes.

 

I need no info on BRIC or the Dollar,...for me it's as irrelevant as your perception of human rights. I'm neither a socialist nor a capitalist,...IMO they are both detrimental to spirituality.

 

Frankly, I'm not ashamed to say I'm aware of spiritual nature, and all it implies. Authentic spirituality can alter all geopolitical manifestations. In 1992, Al Gore said, "the more deeply I search for the roots of our global environmental crisis, the more I am convinced that it is an outer manifestation of an inner crisis that is, for the lack of a better word, spiritual". That is not to get into a debate about Gore,...it is about the quote, that he just happened to pen.

 

The problem on Earth is rooted in beliefs,...especially religious beliefs. Authentic spirituality is void of belief, that is, the unquestioning acceptance of illusions/delusions.

 

The key to spirituality is honesty. Homophobics, Putin, the Maliki regime, Isil, etc.,...are not honest. There are few Countries that have a sizeable spiritual population,...perhaps Bhutan,...but the West will have to evolve another spiritual path, although such will not occur until the obliteration of the Judeao-Christian-Muslim memes,...because conditions cannot enter the Unconditional..

Sigh, you should pay attentions to the human world and its samsara. World historical events are the manifestation of Samsara itself. In the Hegel dialectic reasoning in the human history, the world spirit is constantly at work to bring Freedom to individuals and nations. Often, civilizations have to struggle to realize this Freedom, this Freedom of each nation and its people. Individual illusions become magnified on the grand scale when the entire world, with its various nations and civilizations, are being deluded by the fundamental aspect of the human natures. When human suffering isn't about you anymore but the entire civilization, the entire nation of people. Opening up your mind. The world isn't about just gays....you know. First, this is Tao Bum. I would restrict my discourse in Taoism and Buddhism. If you want to preach about Christian values or Jewish values, you can start your own thread or in another message board.

 

Please, don't quote Al Gore...he thinks he invented the Internet..hahahaha... You are joking, right?

Edited July 26, 2014 by ChiForce

[Brian]

Totally cereal.

[ChiForce]

Totally cereal.

If Al Gore has studied Hegel, he won't be asking this silly question of why historical events are what they are... I am a big fan of Hegel and here is a very condensed writing on his philosophy of why history itself has a purpose.

 

http://www.historicalinsights.com/dave/hegel.html

 

I won't so far to say if you study or look for historical patterns, you would discover the purpose of history. One thing for sure, world historical events are always about struggles, for a nation to struggle to become liberated mentally and physically collectively.

 

FYI, Hegel's philosophy came out around the Franco-Prussian war and the formation of a new German Reich, the first Reich. So, this particular historical moment is very spiritual to the German back then. His works later influenced Karl Marx and Engel and shaping what we know as socialism itself.

Edited July 26, 2014 by ChiForce

[Vmarco]

Sigh, you should pay attentions to the human world and its samsara. World historical events are the manifestation of Samsara itself.

 

Please, don't quote Al Gore...he thinks he invented the Internet..hahahaha... You are joking, right?

 

First, beyond our ignorance, Gore was a leading proponent of the internet superhighway, and has been recognized for his contribution, which, if didn't exist, the internet would have not had the support it needed, and ended up, as Bill Gates wanted, like an Obama Green Energy failure.

 

Gore is an inductee in the Internet Hall of Fame,...for creating the High-Performance Computing and Communications Act of 1991 (the Gore Bill), which allocated $600 million for high performance computing and helped create the NREN (National Research and Educational Network),....which also created the National Information Infrastructure (NII) also known as the Information Superhighway.

 

As for paying attention to the "human world."

 

Buddhas said, "A wise man, recognizing that the world is but an illusion, does not act as if it is real."

Edited July 28, 2014 by Vmarco

[ChiForce]

First, beyond your ignorance, Gore was a leading proponent of the internet superhighway, and has been recognized for his contribution, which, if didn't exist, the internet would have not had the support it needed, and ended up, as Bill Gates wanted, like an Obama Green Energy failure.

 

Gore is an inductee in the Internet Hall of Fame,...for creating the High-Performance Computing and Communications Act of 1991 (the Gore Bill), which allocated $600 million for high performance computing and helped create the NREN (National Research and Educational Network),....which also created the National Information Infrastructure (NII) also known as the Information Superhighway.

 

As for paying attention to the "human world."

 

Buddhas said, "A wise man, recognizing that the world is but an illusion, does not act as if it is real."

Heheheehe......no, I don't look up Al Gore. Sure, he could throw money to any infrastructure since he was the vice president of the US during the Clinton administration. Don't quote the great Buddha if you don't understand what he was talking about. What you implying is called nihilism. That's not the Dharma wisdom. You assume all phenomena are illusions. Therefore, you don't care for them at all. You reject all worldly phenomena without to have experienced them. To understand the true nature of the phenomena, one must experience and entangle oneself and to merge with such phenomena. Thereby, you can understand the impermanent nature of it. That is the Dharma wisdom. This wisdom will manifest itself as a nimitta light in your meditation. Subsequently, once the nimitta light is manifested, you are already in a state of Samadhi.

 

Please, you are not even the least cultivated or enlightened. I advise you to seat back and to learn a few things. FYI, I have already completed the MCO. I have already penetrated the first Skanda of forms. I have already experienced the Kundalini energy rising...when I was 18. All these didn't happen just because I locked myself in a closet. They happened because I was part of the Samsara!!!!! I am in my late 30s now. I think I know a thing or two about the Dharma wisdom and "spirituality."

Edited July 27, 2014 by ChiForce

[Vmarco]

I have already penetrated the first Skanda of forms. I have already experienced the Kundalini energy rising...when I was 18. All these didn't happen just because I locked myself in a closet. They happened because I was part of the Samsara!!!!! I am in my late 30s now. I think I know a thing or two about the Dharma wisdom and "spirituality."

 

Good for you.

 

As the skandhas are Avidya or ignorance, and your "penetration" of that through kundalini experiences (that arise from the skandhas) which give cause to your thinking to believe you know about Dharma wisdom and spirituality is commendable.

 

For me however, any so-called wisdom is surely proof that one has not unweaved the skandhas. Wisdom literally means knowledge accumulated through philosophic or scientific learning. In other words, wisdom points to the highest and most lofty ideas of ego consciousness, whose sole purpose is to sustain itself,...that is to say, the term Dharma Wisdom is an oxymoron,...because Dharma cannot be realized through wisdom,...or kundalini.

 

Please don't get me wrong, as you have done with nearly everything else I mentioned,...kundalini is a pleasant experience,...my first was in the year that Gopi Krishna first published his Evolutionary energy in Man (that is, before you were born). But like meditation,...it will not get you across the threshold to the realization of Dharma,...that is,...seeing things as they are.

 

I would encourage you though, to hang out on the General Forum, where there may be more appreciation of your feats of knowledge. Then,...when you're ready to let go of the idea that merging with phenomena (avidya) is of any help in understanding Dharma,...and, when you are available for some honest discussion,...then by all means come on back.

Edited July 27, 2014 by Vmarco

[eye_of_the_storm]

Wisdom = Insight, Different to Knowledge but it is a Knowing

[eye_of_the_storm]

Shadowy Spiders eh? what do they want? seems a few have experienced them

Edited July 27, 2014 by White Wolf Running On Air

[Apech]

[Brian]

Got 'em...

 

(The widows, mind you, not the giant mechanical ones)

[ChiForce]

Good for you.

 

As the skandhas are Avidya or ignorance, and your "penetration" of that through kundalini experiences (that arise from the skandhas) which give cause to your thinking to believe you know about Dharma wisdom and spirituality is commendable.

 

For me however, any so-called wisdom is surely proof that one has not unweaved the skandhas. Wisdom literally means knowledge accumulated through philosophic or scientific learning. In other words, wisdom points to the highest and most lofty ideas of ego consciousness, whose sole purpose is to sustain itself,...that is to say, the term Dharma Wisdom is an oxymoron,...because Dharma cannot be realized through wisdom,...or kundalini.

 

Please don't get me wrong, as you have done with nearly everything else I mentioned,...kundalini is a pleasant experience,...my first was in the year that Gopi Krishna first published his Evolutionary energy in Man (that is, before you were born). But like meditation,...it will not get you across the threshold to the realization of Dharma,...that is,...seeing things as they are.

 

I would encourage you though, to hang out on the General Forum, where there may be more appreciation of your feats of knowledge. Then,...when you're ready to let go of the idea that merging with phenomena (avidya) is of any help in understanding Dharma,...and, when you are available for some honest discussion,...then by all means come on back.

Hahaah...so glad you approve.....I thought my nightly encounter with various spiritual deity isn't enough. Hahahaha...... You don't even know what is the Dharma wisdom talking about it like you do.

[ChiForce]

Got 'em...

 

(The widows, mind you, not the giant mechanical ones)

I am afraid it is too late. 2 more planes crashed since I posted this thread. And EU is getting tough on Russia now. A very precious time for the world.

[eye_of_the_storm]

Hold onto your hats!

[GrandmasterP]

Meh

[eye_of_the_storm]

I once said to a person "I wonder what a spider thinks", they replied "oh no! I would not like to know what a spider thinks!"

But they themselves trap and feed off the lifeforce of other beings... so what is so different?

Edited July 27, 2014 by White Wolf Running On Air

[ChiForce]

Shadowy Spiders eh? what do they want? seems a few have experienced them

The spider symbol is also a recurrent theme of my. It isn't a harmful symbol to me. In fact, it is a protective figure. In one dream, the spider is the size of a car and it was attacking my old boss. Hahahaha......I was just standing there and watching it. In another dream, the spider was the size of a person and hanging upside down, inside a Buddhist temple. They were protecting all the monks there from the Chinese imperial army. Obviously, this was referring to some ages ago when Buddhist monks were persecuted.

[GrandmasterP]

Spiders do good work.

We'd be up to our necks in flies if it wasn't for the spiders.

Edited July 27, 2014 by GrandmasterP

[eye_of_the_storm]

" A Zen master's life is one continuous mistake."
( Dogen).

HAHA
hmmmmm

Edited July 27, 2014 by White Wolf Running On Air

[joeblast]

Recall what we said earlier today: the proxy Ukraine war just like that in Syria preceding it, "is all about energy."

 

Recall also the following chart showing Ukraine's shale gas deposits, keeping in mind that the Dnieper-Donets basin which lies in the hotly contested eastern part of the nation and where as everyone knows by now a bloody civil war is raging, is the major oil and gas producing region of Ukraine accounting for approximately 90 per cent of Ukrainian production and according to EIA may have 42 tcf of shale gas resources technically recoverable from 197 tcf of risked shale gas in place.

 

Finally, recall our story from May that Joe Biden's son, Hunter, just joined the board of the largest Ukraine gas producer Burisma Holdings. From the press release:

 

R. Hunter Biden will be in charge of the Holdings’ legal unit

and will provide support for the Company among international organizations. On his new appointment, he commented: “Burisma’s track record of innovations and industry leadership in the field of natural gas means that it can be a strong driver of a strong economy in Ukraine. As a new member of the Board, I believe that my assistance in consulting the Company on matters of transparency, corporate governance and responsibility, international expansion and other priorities will contribute to the economy and benefit the people of Ukraine.”

 

R. Hunter Biden is also a well-known public figure. He is chairman of the Board of the World Food Programme U.S.A., together with the world’s largest humanitarian organization, the United Nations World Food Programme. In this capacity he offers assistance to the poor in developing countries, fighting hunger and poverty, and helping to provide food and education to 300 million malnourished children around the world.

 

Company Background

:

 

Burisma Holdings is a privately owned oil and gas company with assets in Ukraine and operating in the energy market since 2002. To date

, the company holds a portfolio with permits to develop fields in the Dnieper-Donets

, the Carpathian and the Azov-Kuban basins. In 2013, the daily gas production grew steadily and at year-end amounted to 11.6 thousand BOE (barrels of oil equivalent – incl. gas, condensate and crude oil), or 1.8 million m3 of natural gas. The company sells these volumes in the domestic market through traders, as well as directly to final consumers.

Now put it all together and what happens next should be rather clear.

* * *

Still confused? It's very simple, really.

In a nutshell Ukraine (or rather its puppetmasters) has decided to let no crisis (staged or otherwise) or rather civil war, go to waste, and while the fighting rages all around, Ukrainian troopers are helping to install shale gas production equipment near the east Ukrainian town of Slavyansk, which was bombed and shelled for the three preceding months, according to local residents cited by Itar Tass. The reason for the scramble? Under peacetime, the process was expected to take many years, during which Europe would be under the energy dictatorship of Putin. But throw in some civil war and few will notice let alone care that a process which was expected to take nearly a decade if not longer while dealing with broad popular objections to fracking, may instead be completed in months!

 

“

Civilians protected by Ukrainian army are getting ready to install drilling rigs. More equipment is being brought in

,” they said, adding that the military are encircling the future extraction area.

 

The people of Slavyansk, which is located in the heart of the Yzovka shale gas field, staged numerous protest actions in the past against its development. They even wanted to call in a referendum on that subject. Environmentalists are particularly concerned with the consequences of hydrofracing, a method used for shale gas extraction, because it implies the use of extremely toxic chemical agents which can poison not only subsoil waters but also the atmosphere. Experts claim that not a single country in the world has invented a method of utilization of harmful toxic agents in the process of development of shale gas deposits.

Countries like the Czech Republic, the Netherlands and France have given up plans to develop shale gas deposits in their territories.

Not only them but also all-important Germany, which two weeks ago announced it would halt shale-gas drilling for the next seven years over groundwater pollution concerns.

Which clearly makes Ukraine, potentially the last place with massive shale gas deposits and no drilling ban, quite valuable to those who want to develop a major source of shale gas, one which reduces Europe's reliance on Russian gas even more, yet one whose future depends on one simple question: who controls East Ukraine?

Because what better way to accelerate "next steps" than to start drilling for gas in the middle of the Donetsk republic as a civil war is waging in all directions, and where public mood has shifted decidedly against the local "separatists" in the aftermath of the MH-17 tragedy.

The punchline: who will develop the gas field in conjunction with Shell (jointly owned by the Netherlands and the UK: the two countries that loathe Putin the most in the aftermath of the MH-17 disaster) which in May 2012 announced a tender for the right to develop the Yuzovka shale gas deposit?

 

Burisma, Ukraine’s oil and gas production holdings, also has the right to develop the shale gas fields in the Dnieper-Donetsk basin of Eastern Ukraine.

The same Burisma where R. Hunter Biden, Joseph's son, was appointed a director two months ago.

[GrandmasterP]

" A Zen master's life is one continuous mistake."

( Dogen).

HAHA

hmmmmm

 

Yep it is.

That can be a koan too.

[ralis]

Sigh, you should pay attentions to the human world and its samsara. World historical events are the manifestation of Samsara itself. In the Hegel dialectic reasoning in the human history, the world spirit is constantly at work to bring Freedom to individuals and nations. Often, civilizations have to struggle to realize this Freedom, this Freedom of each nation and its people. Individual illusions become magnified on the grand scale when the entire world, with its various nations and civilizations, are being deluded by the fundamental aspect of the human natures. When human suffering isn't about you anymore but the entire civilization, the entire nation of people. Opening up your mind. The world isn't about just gays....you know. First, this is Tao Bum. I would restrict my discourse in Taoism and Buddhism. If you want to preach about Christian values or Jewish values, you can start your own thread or in another message board.

 

Please, don't quote Al Gore...he thinks he invented the Internet..hahahaha... You are joking, right?

 

 

'World spirit', 'divine providence', 'the higher cause' or however one has a need to label it, has been an excuse for the worst atrocities in history. Furthermore, to project reasoning faculties onto this objectified entity, as being responsible for bringing freedom to all at some future date, is preposterous. Why? Is this any different from the religious view of some glorified afterlife? To project human problems onto this so called 'higher cause', is shirking responsibility.

[eye_of_the_storm]

In times of darkness, light a flame and fly!