joeblast Posted July 29, 2014 German experts point finger at Ukrainian air-force jets http://investmentwatchblog.com/new-mh17-sensation-german-experts-point-finger-at-ukrainian-air-force-jets/ http://www.presseportal.de/pm/59019/2791311/neues-deutschland-nva-raketenspezialist-mh17-nicht-von-boden-luft-rakete-abgeschossen http://www.anderweltonline.com/wissenschaft-und-technik/luftfahrt-2014/schockierende-analyse-zum-abschuss-der-malaysian-mh-017/ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vmarco Posted July 30, 2014 I see zero evidence that Gore would have gone against the string pullers and "prevented" 9-11. There is plenty of evidence that it was set up well before junior's presidency - so what makes you think it wouldnt have gone down regardless?? He would have been sitting there lamenting on TV that oh if they could have just put the pieces together, just like junior did. And now, regrettably, I'm being told its time for war... In 2000, Gore was involved in a serious intelligence taskforce to take down Bin Laden and AlQaeda,...the week Bush took office, it was trashed,...to the puzzlement of many intelligence people. Only later was it made public that Bush was focused on the already contained Iraq situation, and did not want to shift resources to AlQaeda. Anyway....too much ancient history for my memory. Maybe this will help: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/001120 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anoesjka Posted July 30, 2014 No matter the outcome of investigations in this case, some forces want to impose fear and maybe war upon us. I'm Dutch and I can say that there is no scrutiny in the media, not even the so called objective media. All is geared towards the creation of an enemy. So much so, that I decided not to listen to the news any more. The US is all the happier with this because they don't want a strong EU. The dollar must stay the world currency, in order to prop up the American economy. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vmarco Posted July 30, 2014 No matter the outcome of investigations in this case, some forces want to impose fear and maybe war upon us. I'm Dutch and I can say that there is no scrutiny in the media, not even the so called objective media. All is geared towards the creation of an enemy. So much so, that I decided not to listen to the news any more. The US is all the happier with this because they don't want a strong EU. The dollar must stay the world currency, in order to prop up the American economy. My sympathy for the disturbance this tragedy. Two critiques however,...1. IMO the media are simply looking to sensationalize for profit,...that's what they do,...actual news is so muddied with speculation these days, perhaps there should be law of false advertising in calling it news. 2. IMO the US really wants to be released from the responsibility of being in charge of the World Currency,...but Countries like China won't allow it. If the US was not the organizer of the World Currency, they could manipulate the dollar as China manipulates the Yen, and have a near zero unemployment percentage. Many feel it would be in the best US interest to let go of its overseas commitments,...decrease military spending by 80%,...and start funding North Americans. Unfortunately, the EU Countries, following the D-Day invasion of WW2,...pleaded with America to make numerous commitments to assure to safety of Europe. If a Rand Paul, or Libertarian candidates gets the nod for the next election cycles, those who wish America out of Europe will get their wish. Should be interesting. There are many different styles of leadership. For example, if I won the US Presidential election of 1860, I would have let the South have the South. Of course,...Germany would likely have won the Big War 55 years later,...and thus Hitler would have been a nobody. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anoesjka Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) My sympathy for the disturbance this tragedy. Two critiques however,...1. IMO the media are simply looking to sensationalize for profit,...that's what they do,...actual news is so muddied with speculation these days, perhaps there should be law of false advertising in calling it news. 2. IMO the US really wants to be released from the responsibility of being in charge of the World Currency,...but Countries like China won't allow it. If the US was not the organizer of the World Currency, they could manipulate the dollar as China manipulates the Yen, and have a near zero unemployment percentage. Many feel it would be in the best US interest to let go of its overseas commitments,...decrease military spending by 80%,...and start funding North Americans. Unfortunately, the EU Countries, following the D-Day invasion of WW2,...pleaded with America to make numerous commitments to assure to safety of Europe. If a Rand Paul, or Libertarian candidates gets the nod for the next election cycles, those who wish America out of Europe will get their wish. Should be interesting. There are many different styles of leadership. For example, if I won the US Presidential election of 1860, I would have let the South have the South. Of course,...Germany would likely have won the Big War 55 years later,...and thus Hitler would have been a nobody. If the dollar wouldn't be a world currency, it would mean disaster to the US economy. They can now keep printing dollars, without it losing real value, because the whole world at large pays for the devaluation of the dollar. (O heck, I'm not sure how I can express myself properly, English is not my native language) What is being said in the open by politicians is probably not their true motivation, you know that. They're simply the ones with the biggest needs. For power and wealth that is. Edited July 30, 2014 by Anoesjka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted July 30, 2014 In 2000, Gore was involved in a serious intelligence taskforce to take down Bin Laden and AlQaeda,...the week Bush took office, it was trashed,...to the puzzlement of many intelligence people. Only later was it made public that Bush was focused on the already contained Iraq situation, and did not want to shift resources to AlQaeda. Anyway....too much ancient history for my memory. Maybe this will help: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/001120 had to lol, when I saw the guy reference al franken, another winner by judicial (s)election. I dunno, if that was the case then why did they feel it necessary to have berger go steal and presumably destroy documents pertinent to the 9-11 investigation...I digress, dont find that to be all that believable. Al was bought off anyway in becoming the face of AGW and raking in 100+ million dollars telling everyone lies as pretext for taxation. I'm all for environmental conservation, but that which is politically expedient will always trump common sense. lol wants to be released...why do I feel deja vu maybe TPTB eventually want that to happen, for what good is a bubble without the entertainment of popping it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vmarco Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) If the dollar wouldn't be a world currency, it would mean disaster to the US economy. They can now keep printing dollars, without it losing real value, because the whole world at large pays for the devaluation of the dollar. (O heck, I'm not sure how I can express myself properly, English is not my native language) What is being said in the open by politicians is probably not their true motivation, you know that. They're simply the ones with the biggest needs. For power and wealth that is. I'm not an economist...LOL...I agree with PJ Merola, that economics is a parasitic paradigm. From the little I understand, the US cannot undervalue its currency for the benefit of its people like China,...because of the USA's responsibility being the World Currency. "Getting a degree in economics is the wasteful thing you could possibly do..." Minute 14:00 - 15:30 Edited July 30, 2014 by Vmarco Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted July 30, 2014 I'm not an economist...LOL...I agree with PJ Merola, that economics is a parasitic paradigm. From the little I understand, the US cannot undervalue its currency for the benefit of its people like China,...because of the USA's responsibility being the World Currency. "Getting a degree in economics is the wasteful thing you could possibly do..." Minute 14:00 - 15:30 For academia to create a science called economics is bogus. Look at what Milton Friedman and the 'Chicago School of Economics' and their bogus 'supply side theory' has done to this economy. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted July 30, 2014 I agree with the puppet theory,...not that a Secret Government is controlling things,...but something more akin to Colin Wilson's Mind Parasites. I stand by my comment however,...that if Gore was President, 9-11 would not have occurred,...but 9-11did occur, and thus Gore wasn't suppose to be President,...even though he actually won. We cannot changed the past,...and every perceived moment is in the past. To look at it another way,...the beginning is intimately connected to the end,...just like film at a theater. We may not yet know the end, but just as in the theater, nothing you do during the middle is going to change the ending,...because in actuality, everything occurs at one time. If you could listen to all the frequencies on your radio tuner at the sametime, you'd have a better grasp of the whole dream. The dream is a sham, not a reality - utter waste of reality, time, space, and existence. an imposition upon freedom that should not be allowed to exist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted July 30, 2014 lol ralis....look at what a privately owned central "bank" has done to the economy...poke at friedman all you want, but does he ever advocate papering over losses on a massive scale and then socializing them once they're big enough, all the while any profits are paid right out to executives and shareholders...and I guess we can include the milliliter drip that goes to the legwork... you like to purport these folks subscribe to the many bastardizations of their theories, when you know darn well keynes would be every bit as incredulous, the microcosm in which his theories "work" aside... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vmarco Posted July 31, 2014 For academia to create a science called economics is bogus. Look at what Milton Friedman and the 'Chicago School of Economics' and their bogus 'supply side theory' has done to this economy. Or,...as PJ said in minute 15:54 "academia is a detriment to advancing social progress" PJ Merola Speaking of which.....Watched a humorous video last night,...the last part was especially amusing,...about how the "constant" changes periodically,...but dogmatic science has trouble discussing it. Academia is quite invested in itself. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites