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Are there any high level qi gong masters/healers in Europe? Most seem to be in Asia or the US...

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Be your own master! Learn a qigong or MA form, practice it EVERY day and your body,mind and spirit will produce it's own medicine.

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When you are chronically ill, It is irritating when people spout dogma about healing. Especially when they know nothing about the problem.

 

I asked about Qi Gong healers/masters in Europe and the majority were kind enough to post some links and answer my question. I did not ask "will Qi gong healing magically make me better and i'd prefer not to do any work myself, thank you very much"

 

Some people on here cannot seem to help trying to impart their knowledge and wisdom upon others, even if it is not asked for.

 

Again thanks to everyone who answered my question.

 

I wish you well

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Yes miraculously you will. Find out for yourself instead of trying to intellectualise or debate it on the Internet as many seem to be addicted to or good at it (yabba, yabba, yabba and little action). Prcatice instead of talk and or thinking that a healer is going to do anything for you in the long run. You are the one who needs to change within and Bagua is the ultimate tool to change all the conditions that are causing you health issues which generally speaking can be all narrowed down to one or two causes (including karma).

How does Bagua heal Karmic related issues?

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Bagua is the ultimate tool to change all the conditions that are causing you health issues which generally speaking can be all narrowed down to one or two causes (including karma).

 

oh come on, Gerard. I could say the same about Soaring Crane, Fanhuangong or Guo Lin Xi Xi Hu Qigong Walking exercises (all of which are easier to learn than Bagua). But no system is effective if it isn't practiced, and the OP is having the kind of issues in his life right now that hinder exactly that. I see you're advice as akin to 'buck up', and 'pull yourself up by the bootstraps'.

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It seems that the majority are in Asia (unsurprisingly) and the US. Are there any in Europe?

 

I imagine that in the US, the teachers have a bigger following and are more well known, but it seems as though Europe does not have the calibre of masters/healers for some reason. Is it that they are unknown or do the top guys get drawn to the US?

 

 

Hello again Kudos100.

Wishing you every success on your path and I hope that you will find a QiGong teacher to suit you not too far away.

The main thing is to find a form that suits you and then stick to it daily.

What happens a lot is that people begin with a form then get bored or simply think it isn't working without giving it time to work.

One of the advantages of having so many forms to choose from is that there is something to suit everyone.

The disadvantage of having so many forms though is that it is tempting to some to flit about like a butterfly between one new form and then another almost endlessly and never settling with one form long enough to gain any benefits.

All we do and teach in our school is Baduanjin.

That's it, nothing else.

Day after day, month after month, year after year.

It's a deceptively simple cultivation and really easy to learn but, over time; the effects are phenomenal.

Bagua's marvellous too especially for a younger cultivator who fancies a Martial Art application for their cultivation.

They're all effective are the forms as long as they are cultivated in a disciplined regular and long-term fashion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Some people on here cannot seem to help trying to impart their knowledge and wisdom upon others, even if it is not asked for.

 

Because you need to walk the path using your own shoes in order to understand how a system works 'miraculously' in order for you to understand. Practice rather than words is the best medicine. :)

 

Also try

for extended periods of time as an alternative or even supplementary option.. Another great medicine tool.

 

 

Be your own master! Learn a qigong or MA form, practice it EVERY day and your body,mind and spirit will produce it's own medicine.

 

Good to see you again. I hope your Xingyi is working well for you. :)

 

 

How does Bagua heal Karmic related issues?

 

Because it works on the totality you are currently immersed (5 elements) and returning this elemental energies to their original state (pre-heaven). Your original mind projects itself in various forms (human-physical in our case) via 5 elements creating an illusory reality. This is how deep Bagua goes...very, very deep. It leaves no room for anything else. In essence, it formats the 'entire HD'. Why don't you try and see for yourself? :)

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Because it works on the totality you are currently immersed (5 elements) and returning this elemental energies to their original state (pre-heaven). Your original mind projects itself in various forms (human-physical in our case) via 5 elements creating an illusory reality. This is how deep Bagua goes...very, very deep. It leaves no room for anything else. In essence, it formats the 'entire HD'. Why don't you try and see for yourself? :)

 

Hello Gerard,

 

I would agree. Can you expand on this? Particularly the five elements and what they relate to in daily life? I'm assuming WORK is a big one, tied to one of the elements.

 

Thanks,

 

MOoninite

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The five elements is everything and you are a pure manifestation of them from the inside (internal organs and the mind) and the outer reality which is an expression of the inner workings. One last thing, your year of birth will also determine the quality of your 5E as one will be dominant, eg. 1986 fire year (shapes wood) in wood element (dominant), but shaped by the action of that particular year, so the push-pull of all the internal organs (yin and yang) will be defined by those two elements. Strong heart energy but wood/liver and gallbladder conflicting with earth/spleen and causing a weakening of the kidneys and urinary bladder/weakened. Therefore one must pay a close attention to the conflict and weakness in order to maintain the correct balance/harmony of the entire system.

 

The beauty of Bagua is that restores that balance and also tells you that preexisting condition so one can make the necessary adjustments and making sure they are maintained the rest of your physical life to avoid disease/Qi/mind blockages.

 

It's a complex matter but a sensitive and intelligent practitioner will eventually become a TCM doctor and patient at the same time.

 

The reason that explains why advanced practitioners leave society behind or embrace the sangha is because it blocks the mind/divorces itself from the subtle influence of the 5E. You simply can't live like an ordinary human especially after refining the mind to a high degree/entered the first of the stages of enlightenment.

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Cool photoshopped in double rainbow! :)

Hey! Wait a minute...

 

Are you saying he didn't just manifest them for the photo???

 

 

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Very nice description Gerard

 

thanks. *deep bow*

 

Most welcome. Hope this helps. Also bear in mind location. Not good for a fire horse (1966) to live in a southern location or for a water pig (1983) live in Mongolia. Ultimately it hinders cultivation. One must intuitively follow the 5E in order to eventually transcend them (attain the Way/return to the Source). You can achieve liberation if you negate them, which is the main problem of Buddhism today. They still follow teachings left 2,500 thousand years ago and back then the mind and the environment was totally different. Buddhism is too rigid in its approach to grasping the MIND.

 

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The five elements is everything and you are a pure manifestation of them from the inside (internal organs and the mind) and the outer reality which is an expression of the inner workings. One last thing, your year of birth will also determine the quality of your 5E as one will be dominant, eg. 1986 fire year (shapes wood) in wood element (dominant), but shaped by the action of that particular year, so the push-pull of all the internal organs (yin and yang) will be defined by those two elements. Strong heart energy but wood/liver and gallbladder conflicting with earth/spleen and causing a weakening of the kidneys and urinary bladder/weakened. Therefore one must pay a close attention to the conflict and weakness in order to maintain the correct balance/harmony of the entire system.

 

 

So, for example, a person with the fire element should live near the ocean? but not too south

 

 

 

The reason that explains why advanced practitioners leave society behind or embrace the sangha is because it blocks the mind/divorces itself from the subtle influence of the 5E. You simply can't live like an ordinary human especially after refining the mind to a high degree/entered the first of the stages of enlightenment.

 

i'm finding this more true the more i train. my life is entering new stages of chaos or.. freedom.

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Yes near wood and water but preferably clean running freshwater as the ocean can be overwhelming for a fire horse (1966), other fire signs like 1976 and 1986 would benefit from the ocean as they are ruled by wood (dragon and tiger respectively). 1967 is also a funny year (yin fire/sheep + fire year), the ocean is not ideal to these people in the long term either unless their livers are really screwed up and need the cleansing ocean energy will provide. The Mediterranean is a bit different because it's a lot more yin than the Pacific or the Atlantic oceans...that sea is better suited for long term living.

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I like the information above, but wouldn't it be better to chart the four pillars and use the day master and it's relationship to the other pliiars to determine these things?

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